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I just read where Pat Kirwan said that the reason Garrett didn't interview with the Lions was money. He makes, gulp, $ 3 million here. It makes sense, because I didn't understand why he would turn it down. That seemed arrogant at the time.
Also, Kirwan says that the offensive coordinator from the Patriots appears to be the front runner in Denver. We'll see what happens.
If the Rams don't interview Garrett, then, the Chiefs job could come open. You would think the Rams would interview him if Denver would.
Also, Kirwan says that the offensive coordinator from the Patriots appears to be the front runner in Denver. We'll see what happens.
If the Rams don't interview Garrett, then, the Chiefs job could come open. You would think the Rams would interview him if Denver would.
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dbair1967;2559320 said:
I don't know, but that is where Al Saunders is located.
Can we make a trade?
: Go get Mike Solari and reunite him with Saunders, just like their Kansas City days. They had one of the best offenses in the NFL for a while. They would love to have the quarterback and 3 running backs that we have. Gurode, Davis, Columbo... Those guys can block in the running game. Both our tightends can block. Our fullback will be going into his 3rd year. Fix left guard, and let's go. We need a quarterbacks coach, too.
This move covers the xs and os. It would be up to Wade Phillips to keep the defense moving up and take control of the team, because it would truely be his team.
Phillips doesn't have to yell. If you fasle start, your out for a play. If you make mental mistakes, you will come out and watch a while. If you make a really poor decision with the football, we will run every down on the next series and call a screen on third down.
Getting some backup OL would help. You can't sit a tackle down for false starts if you don't have any. Cory Proctor at guard, that says it all.
Plus, Saunders has coached WRs for many years, and we have a number one pick and millions of dollars in new WR who could use some polishing. Who wouldn't need polishing after playing in Detroit?
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dbair1967;2559320 said:
That's right, didn't they fire Judd? (Or whatever his name is that we signed in the scouting department.)
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theogt;2559241 said:
Really?
Had Romo not been hurt we would likely have had a very different year.
You've got WRs running whatever the hell route they want b/c they know Jerry has their back.
Admittedly, he didn't adjust as well as he should have. But that's what you get with a young guy who has moved up too fast.
We laid our bed with JG as the next HC, we'd be morons to cut bait after a mediocre showing under challenging circumstances.
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And had our O-line not performed like absolute **** all year, he wouldn't have been injured three seperate times.AbeBeta;2559355 said:
Or because their offensive coordinator isn't doing his job.
Incompetence? Great!
Not true at all. If he doesn't work out, move on and that's it.
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theogt;2559361 said:
b/c the guy who was widely derided as a crap OL coach left?
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or b/c the owner supports the WRs when they *****.
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You can't give a young guy two years, one good and one mediocre, and say "it hasn't worked out" - there are reasons why the guy is a commodity and even after a less than stellar year remains so. Either let him develop or just give up on hiring young guys and bring in some more retreads
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Didn't want to start a new thread... Thought this was as decent a place as any.
Diner News: Around The NFL
BY: MICHAEL LOMBARDI
7 Jan 2009
QUOTE: “The world is in a constant conspiracy against the brave. It’s the age-old struggle: the roar of the crowd on the one side, and the voice of your conscience on the other.” ~ Douglas MacArthur
FROM RICH CIMINI OF THE NEW YORK DAILY NEWS…On day 9 of the Jets‘ coaching search, Woody Johnson met privately with Brian Schottenheimer in the owner’s first post-vacation interview, Boston College coach Jeff Jagodzinski satisfied an apparent career death wish by huddling with Jets officials and Bill Cowher said he wouldn’t reconsider even if Johnson personally reached out to him. Say this for the Jets: Their searches aren’t dull. Oh, yes, they also received permission from the Colts to interview defensive coordinator Ron Meeks, according to a person familiar with the search. That meeting is scheduled for Friday at the Jets’ facility in Florham Park, N.J. Jagodzinski became the fourth known candidate to interview for the job, defying an ultimatum from his athletic director. Told that he’d be fired if he met with the Jets, the former Packers and Falcons assistant showed up anyway, league sources said, interviewing for a job he has little chance of landing. He could be considered for the offensive coordinator position down the road, but it’s believed he has a better shot at the same job with the Seahawks, where he’d be reunited with former Falcons coach Jim Mora Jr.
We first reported at the Post that Jeff Jagodzinski was in New Jersey yesterday meeting with the Jets, knowing that he will be fired as a result. I’m sure Jeff feels he has a good case to claim the money that remains on his Boston College contract, otherwise he would not have interviewed for a job that, in his case, was more exploratory than realistic. It does not make sense for Jeff to take this hard-line approach if he did not want to get fired and get back in the NFL. Some coaches are meant for the NFL and some are meant for college. B.C. does not want to hinder its recruiting and it wants to keep a coach for a long time. I’m sure this conversation took place long before this past weekend between Jags and athletic director Gene DeFilippo. I have a hunch that DeFilippo made sure that Jags did not want to return to the NFL before he was offered the job.
The Jets are all over the board in their search and seem to be trying to cover all the bases and keep everyone involved in the process. This week, they are heading to Arizona to interview Russ Grimm and will also meet with Stanford coach Jim Harbaugh. Harbaugh has talked to the Rams, but he prefers to stay at Stanford, and once he finalizes his extension on the Farm, he will be out of the running for these jobs.
Now, back to the Jets, who seem to be looking under every rock for a new coach. I feel they don’t have a plan. They seem to be more interested in impressing their owner with a list of names and not focusing on what they really need. How do you interview Steve Spagnuolo of the Giants but not Jim Schwartz of the Titans (the Jets have not even requested an interview with Schwartz)? How do you interview Brian Schottenheimer but not talk to other young offensive minds? The Jets have to first ask what they want in a head coach this time. Do they want a young coach, an offensive coach or a defensive coach? Too much of anything means you have nothing, and they Jets need to have a shorter list and a clearer plan of action.
Everyone I talk to in and around the NFL feel this job is Schottenheimer’s. He is bright, he is young and he will work with GM Mike Tannenbaum. In the end, the Jets (i.e., Tannenbaum) are more interested in finding someone who will not challenge Mike T.’s power rather than getting the best coach. Why not hire Brian’s father Marty for two years and let him groom his son for the job? Marty would give the Jets instant credibility and he would be able to lay down a foundation for Brian as he grows into the head coaching position. Spending the money on Marty would be the best money the Jets could spend right now. In his memoir, Henry Kissinger said, “When you go to Washington to enter public life, you borrow on the intellectual power you bring and you cannot renew it while you are there.” The NFL is very much like this. Hiring Marty would allow Brian to gain on-the-job training.
Now, the reality of the situation is that it’s not an attractive job. The Jets are in a bad cap situation, they don’t have a young quarterback and they are faced with problems in their offensive line. The expectations are going to far exceed the results. Whoever gets this job will endure some sleepless nights.
FROM MARY KAY CABOT OF THE CLEVELAND PLAIN DEALER…The Browns have received permission to interview Eagles General Manager Tom Heckert for their GM vacancy, a league source confirmed to The Plain Dealer Tuesday night. It is not yet known when the interview is, but the Eagles are preparing for their divisional playoff game Sunday against the Giants in New York. The Heckert story was first reported by the Philadelphia Inquirer. Heckert, widely regarded as one of the NFL’s top executives, is in his eighth year with the Eagles and has been the team’s GM since Jan. 2, 2006. He doesn’t have final say over the 53-man roster, but works closely with coach Andy Reid on all personnel matters. He also manages the player personnel department, which includes both college and NFL scouting. In May, Heckert received a contract extension through 2011.
I have been told by several reliable sources that the Browns and Scott Pioli have not even talked about money or demands. They had a meeting, but it was more of a getting-to-know-you meeting. I believe Randy Lerner does not want to be turned down and does not want to appear unwilling to wait for Pioli to make a decision. He may feel Scott will never leave the Patriots (which many have told me recently) and he does not want to embarrass his franchise by being turned down. I completely understand his desire to protect the franchise. As for Heckert, it is clear he wants to move on from Philadelphia and gain additional freedom. Heckert has been mentioned for a number of jobs throughout the league, but my sense is that he better take one soon because, even though he has years left on his deal, he does not have the clout he needs in Philadelphia to make a difference.
Once Scott makes up his mind, I expect Eric Mangini to be named Browns coach and George Kokinis, the Ravens’ director of pro personnel, to follow shortly afterward as GM.
FROM LINDSAY H. JONES OF THE DENVER POST…On Tuesday, (Jason Garrett) was in Denver to interview with Broncos owner Pat Bowlen for the team’s head coaching job. Garrett, 42, was the fifth candidate interviewed since Bowlen fired Mike Shanahan on Dec. 30, and the third offensive-minded coach, following New England offensive coordinator Josh McDaniels on Sunday and Broncos offensive coordinator Rick Dennison earlier Tuesday. “I have great respect for the Broncos organization,” Garrett told 9News when he arrived at Denver International Airport on Tuesday. “They are very impressive from top to bottom. I’m excited to have the opportunity to speak to the Broncos.”
Last year, Jerry Jones paid Garrett not to look for a head coaching job. This year, from the look of things, Jerry is firing up the jets to get Garrett an interview. Something is very strange here. Garrett turned down a request from the Lions, then finally agreed to interview with them Monday before going to Denver to meet with Broncos brass. Why? You are making huge money, you are coaching one of the best franchises in the NFL and your time is coming to be a head coach. Why the change? Everyone wants the Cowboys to fire Wade Phillips, whose defense played well until the final two weeks. The real problem with the ‘Boys has been the offense. The failure to get Roy Williams involved and the inability to handle the Baltimore pressure package might be factors in the Cowboys’ decision to allow Garrett to pursue a job. One thing about the NFL: If they don’t want you to leave, they can stop you — trust me on that one.
From what I’m hearing, the Broncos loved New England offensive coordinator Josh McDaniels, who seems to be formulating his staff, including Dom Capers as his defensive coordinator. The Broncos will not take much more time and will make a decision in the next week.
Diner News: Around The NFL
BY: MICHAEL LOMBARDI
7 Jan 2009
QUOTE: “The world is in a constant conspiracy against the brave. It’s the age-old struggle: the roar of the crowd on the one side, and the voice of your conscience on the other.” ~ Douglas MacArthur
FROM RICH CIMINI OF THE NEW YORK DAILY NEWS…On day 9 of the Jets‘ coaching search, Woody Johnson met privately with Brian Schottenheimer in the owner’s first post-vacation interview, Boston College coach Jeff Jagodzinski satisfied an apparent career death wish by huddling with Jets officials and Bill Cowher said he wouldn’t reconsider even if Johnson personally reached out to him. Say this for the Jets: Their searches aren’t dull. Oh, yes, they also received permission from the Colts to interview defensive coordinator Ron Meeks, according to a person familiar with the search. That meeting is scheduled for Friday at the Jets’ facility in Florham Park, N.J. Jagodzinski became the fourth known candidate to interview for the job, defying an ultimatum from his athletic director. Told that he’d be fired if he met with the Jets, the former Packers and Falcons assistant showed up anyway, league sources said, interviewing for a job he has little chance of landing. He could be considered for the offensive coordinator position down the road, but it’s believed he has a better shot at the same job with the Seahawks, where he’d be reunited with former Falcons coach Jim Mora Jr.
We first reported at the Post that Jeff Jagodzinski was in New Jersey yesterday meeting with the Jets, knowing that he will be fired as a result. I’m sure Jeff feels he has a good case to claim the money that remains on his Boston College contract, otherwise he would not have interviewed for a job that, in his case, was more exploratory than realistic. It does not make sense for Jeff to take this hard-line approach if he did not want to get fired and get back in the NFL. Some coaches are meant for the NFL and some are meant for college. B.C. does not want to hinder its recruiting and it wants to keep a coach for a long time. I’m sure this conversation took place long before this past weekend between Jags and athletic director Gene DeFilippo. I have a hunch that DeFilippo made sure that Jags did not want to return to the NFL before he was offered the job.
The Jets are all over the board in their search and seem to be trying to cover all the bases and keep everyone involved in the process. This week, they are heading to Arizona to interview Russ Grimm and will also meet with Stanford coach Jim Harbaugh. Harbaugh has talked to the Rams, but he prefers to stay at Stanford, and once he finalizes his extension on the Farm, he will be out of the running for these jobs.
Now, back to the Jets, who seem to be looking under every rock for a new coach. I feel they don’t have a plan. They seem to be more interested in impressing their owner with a list of names and not focusing on what they really need. How do you interview Steve Spagnuolo of the Giants but not Jim Schwartz of the Titans (the Jets have not even requested an interview with Schwartz)? How do you interview Brian Schottenheimer but not talk to other young offensive minds? The Jets have to first ask what they want in a head coach this time. Do they want a young coach, an offensive coach or a defensive coach? Too much of anything means you have nothing, and they Jets need to have a shorter list and a clearer plan of action.
Everyone I talk to in and around the NFL feel this job is Schottenheimer’s. He is bright, he is young and he will work with GM Mike Tannenbaum. In the end, the Jets (i.e., Tannenbaum) are more interested in finding someone who will not challenge Mike T.’s power rather than getting the best coach. Why not hire Brian’s father Marty for two years and let him groom his son for the job? Marty would give the Jets instant credibility and he would be able to lay down a foundation for Brian as he grows into the head coaching position. Spending the money on Marty would be the best money the Jets could spend right now. In his memoir, Henry Kissinger said, “When you go to Washington to enter public life, you borrow on the intellectual power you bring and you cannot renew it while you are there.” The NFL is very much like this. Hiring Marty would allow Brian to gain on-the-job training.
Now, the reality of the situation is that it’s not an attractive job. The Jets are in a bad cap situation, they don’t have a young quarterback and they are faced with problems in their offensive line. The expectations are going to far exceed the results. Whoever gets this job will endure some sleepless nights.
FROM MARY KAY CABOT OF THE CLEVELAND PLAIN DEALER…The Browns have received permission to interview Eagles General Manager Tom Heckert for their GM vacancy, a league source confirmed to The Plain Dealer Tuesday night. It is not yet known when the interview is, but the Eagles are preparing for their divisional playoff game Sunday against the Giants in New York. The Heckert story was first reported by the Philadelphia Inquirer. Heckert, widely regarded as one of the NFL’s top executives, is in his eighth year with the Eagles and has been the team’s GM since Jan. 2, 2006. He doesn’t have final say over the 53-man roster, but works closely with coach Andy Reid on all personnel matters. He also manages the player personnel department, which includes both college and NFL scouting. In May, Heckert received a contract extension through 2011.
I have been told by several reliable sources that the Browns and Scott Pioli have not even talked about money or demands. They had a meeting, but it was more of a getting-to-know-you meeting. I believe Randy Lerner does not want to be turned down and does not want to appear unwilling to wait for Pioli to make a decision. He may feel Scott will never leave the Patriots (which many have told me recently) and he does not want to embarrass his franchise by being turned down. I completely understand his desire to protect the franchise. As for Heckert, it is clear he wants to move on from Philadelphia and gain additional freedom. Heckert has been mentioned for a number of jobs throughout the league, but my sense is that he better take one soon because, even though he has years left on his deal, he does not have the clout he needs in Philadelphia to make a difference.
Once Scott makes up his mind, I expect Eric Mangini to be named Browns coach and George Kokinis, the Ravens’ director of pro personnel, to follow shortly afterward as GM.
FROM LINDSAY H. JONES OF THE DENVER POST…On Tuesday, (Jason Garrett) was in Denver to interview with Broncos owner Pat Bowlen for the team’s head coaching job. Garrett, 42, was the fifth candidate interviewed since Bowlen fired Mike Shanahan on Dec. 30, and the third offensive-minded coach, following New England offensive coordinator Josh McDaniels on Sunday and Broncos offensive coordinator Rick Dennison earlier Tuesday. “I have great respect for the Broncos organization,” Garrett told 9News when he arrived at Denver International Airport on Tuesday. “They are very impressive from top to bottom. I’m excited to have the opportunity to speak to the Broncos.”
Last year, Jerry Jones paid Garrett not to look for a head coaching job. This year, from the look of things, Jerry is firing up the jets to get Garrett an interview. Something is very strange here. Garrett turned down a request from the Lions, then finally agreed to interview with them Monday before going to Denver to meet with Broncos brass. Why? You are making huge money, you are coaching one of the best franchises in the NFL and your time is coming to be a head coach. Why the change? Everyone wants the Cowboys to fire Wade Phillips, whose defense played well until the final two weeks. The real problem with the ‘Boys has been the offense. The failure to get Roy Williams involved and the inability to handle the Baltimore pressure package might be factors in the Cowboys’ decision to allow Garrett to pursue a job. One thing about the NFL: If they don’t want you to leave, they can stop you — trust me on that one.
From what I’m hearing, the Broncos loved New England offensive coordinator Josh McDaniels, who seems to be formulating his staff, including Dom Capers as his defensive coordinator. The Broncos will not take much more time and will make a decision in the next week.