Garrett is a great coach waiting to happen

[Diehardblues]

Well Will McClay is in charge of personnel and the Cowboys are really doing well in the draft lately. Which goes to show that maybe Garrett doesn't use the talent given to him to the best of his abilities?

Last time I checked Will is Asst Director of Personnel to Stephen and Jerry is GM.

Will advises them in decisions not the final word. And we’ve drafted a stellar OL and RB. The rest is suspect until further evidence.

 

[Cowpolk]

Last time I checked Will is Asst Director of Personnel to Stephen and Jerry is GM.

Will advised them in decisions not the final word. And we’ve drafted a stellar OL and RB. The rest is suspect until further evidence.

That's the way management works

 

[Diehardblues]

Funny how Wade didn't get the "not enough talent excuse".

Always excuses for poor little Garrett.......its just not fair that he doesn't have a Hall of Fame QB and a top 5 defense

Under Wade we had 4 of the worst drafts in Cowboy history . We depleted the team Bill built.

Wade first year we had 13 Pro Bowlers which was reduced to about 3 ( Romo, Ware and Witten)so Wade begun with talent but didn’t finish with much.

It was depleted so much by 2010 he couldn’t even win with Romo. The only HC to have a losing record in a season with Romo starting.

 

[Diehardblues]

Ok.,For the sake of argument . Let’s fire Garrett. Now what? What’s our next move ?

Linehan is here to run Garrett’s offense . He’s gone too. Marinelli was brought in by Garrett. Bye .

Jerry doesn’t allow HC usually to surround themselves with their own staff initially so how’s this going to pan out .

Who’s the list of candidates Jerry would pursue and that would be interested in coming here?

Then who’s are coordinators? What’s our offense ? Does it suit Dak?

Once you pull the trigger you must be ready for solutions . Who’s coming in that’s going to make Jerry comfortable while still providing him the perception of receiving the credit he’s pursuing?

Perhaps this deserves its own thread. We certainly could use another fire Garrett thread.

 

[Cowpolk]

Ok.,For the sake of argument . Let’s fire Garrett. Now what? What’s our next move ?

Linehan is here to run Garrett’s offense . He’s gone too. Marinelli was brought in by Garrett. Bye .

Jerry doesn’t allow HC usually to surround themselves with their own staff initially so how’s this going to pan out .

Who’s the list of candidates Jerry would pursue and that would be interested in coming here?

Then who’s are coordinators? What’s our offense ? Does it suit Dak?

Once you pull the trigger you must be ready for solutions . Who’s coming in that’s going to make Jerry comfortable while still providing him the perception of receiving the credit he’s pursuing?

Me

 

[3rd_n_inches]

Garrett needs to be somebodies GM. If Jerry doesn’t want to give up his spot then Garrett needs to work under Rodger Goodell personally to instill the RKG persona nation wide.

 

[Diehardblues]

Garrett needs to be somebodies GM. If Jerry doesn’t want to give up his spot then Garrett needs to work under Rodger Goodell personally to instill the RKG persona nation wide.

Good point. I’m beginning to see Garrett as a walk around GM for us as I’ve often felt Jerry has bigger plans for Garrett some day.

Probably would be a better position for Garrett but not until Jerry exhausts every effort to prove he can build a championship team without a proven HC.

 

[Diehardblues]

Me

Great answer. Definitely would fit into Jerry’s model of an unproven HC. And you’d probably accept the job.
Well done Coach Cowpolk!! Lol

 

[3rd_n_inches]

Good point. I’m beginning to see Garrett as a walk around GM for us as I’ve often felt Jerry has bigger plans for Garrett some day.

Probably would be a better position for Garrett but not until Jerry exhausts every effort to prove he can build a championship team without a proven HC.

Garrett is definitely a sideline GM for us

 

[Cowboysheelsreds053]

Have patience...it’s a process.

Wrong sport Joel Embid! LOL

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

ummmm Parcells.

He flat out calls out players for their mistakes and throws them under the bus.

so garrett doesn't act like a HOF, 2 time superbowl winning Coach and he is bad.... Wade? Campo? Switzer? and list of coaches from other teams that would be a mile long never did that.....so are they all bad?

and you didn't answer my second part of the comment. Garrett did criticize his players once. specifically Romo and he was criticized to no end about doing it.

so should he? or should he not criticize because he had damned if does, damned if he doesn't.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

Me

stupid response...but then again haters never have an answer. just jokes.

 

[Sydla]

stupid response...but then again haters never have an answer. just jokes.

How in the world are fans going to have all the answers on how to fix the head coaching spot? How can a fan lay out a plan or give an answer when they have no idea who would be interested in the job, who wouldn't, etc?

All we can do, as fans, is judge the job of the guy currently in charge. And right now, Garrett has largely done squat in his tenure.

But yeah, we can't suggest that maybe we are getting close to time to jettison him because, we, as fans can't then tell you who the Cowboys will/should hire.

 

[Aviano90]

stupid response...but then again haters never have an answer. just jokes.

It was a sarcastic response, like he always provides, and he is a Garrett supporter not a hater.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

How in the world are fans going to have all the answers on how to fix the head coaching spot? How can a fan lay out a plan or give an answer when they have no idea who would be interested in the job, who wouldn't, etc?

All we can do, as fans, is judge the job of the guy currently in charge. And right now, Garrett has largely done squat in his tenure.

But yeah, we can't suggest that maybe we are getting close to time to jettison him because, we, as fans can't then tell you who the Cowboys will/should hire.

well it sounds like the fans have the answers, because they want the coach fired. they want him fired today and they don't care and they have no other alternative in mind, but 100% they want the coach fired, asap.

my argument is if you want a head coach fired, even in your limited view and knowledge of the NFL football world, provide some alternatives....saying my uncle who coached peeve football is an option, then that makes you stupid and your wish of firing a coach meaningless (not you per se, but those who have that response)

there are quite a few fans on this board that are quite knowledgeable, have provided viable alternatives with scenarios for each....

and to your last point, I don't think garrett hasn't done squat. he has a winning record and there are a long list of coaches in the NFL that didn't. he has been to playoffs and has 1-2 record. your expectations are that he should have won 2 superbowls by now and he didn't. thus he hasn't done squat. I would take Garrett over Chip Kelly any day of the week. I would take Garrett over Wade any day of the week. I never wanted Wade as a head coach, from day 1 and expected it to end up in total failure as he had in previous stops. are there coaches I would take over garrett? ...heck yes.... but they are not available

and I wouldn't be surprised to see him let go after the season. and I even provided my ideal viable scenario in previous threads.....

 

[ConstantReboot]

so garrett doesn't act like a HOF, 2 time superbowl winning Coach and he is bad.... Wade? Campo? Switzer? and list of coaches from other teams that would be a mile long never did that.....so are they all bad?

and you didn't answer my second part of the comment. Garrett did criticize his players once. specifically Romo and he was criticized to no end about doing it.

so should he? or should he not criticize because he had damned if does, damned if he doesn't.

No I didn't say that. I'm just mentioning that coaches do call out their players for making mistakes - which Parcells constantly did. The original poster said that NO NFL coach calls out their players for making mistakes. So I stated Parcells did.

As for Garrett - he is too soft. He seems ok with losing. No need to call out players and make them accountable because its part of the process. Parcells, Landry, Jimmy Johnson were all strong discipline oriented coaches which got their team to winning standards and the Superbowl. Garrett is poor at discipline and accountability. Thats the reason why we are below average team.

Maybe Garrett could learn from these coaches.

As for Romo being criticized good . He should do it more often. Basically him stopping to make players accountable because he got criticized over it means that he lacks balls and the fortitude to stand up to the public.

Thats why I feel he is unworthy of being a coach. He seems too weak and lacks the spine to do whats right.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

No I didn't say that. I'm just mentioning that coaches do call out their players for making mistakes - which Parcells constantly did. The original poster said that NO NFL coach calls out their players for making mistakes. So I stated Parcells did.

As for Garrett - he is too soft. He seems ok with losing. No need to call out players and make them accountable because its part of the process. Parcells, Landry, Jimmy Johnson were all strong discipline oriented coaches which got their team to winning standards and the Superbowl. Garrett is poor at discipline and accountability. Thats the reason why we are below average team.

Maybe Garrett could learn from these coaches.

As for Romo being criticized good . He should do it more often. Basically him stopping to make players accountable because he got criticized over it means that he lacks balls and the fortitude to stand up to the public.

Thats why I feel he is unworthy of being a coach. He seems too weak and lacks the spine to do whats right.

I disagree with the comment about garrett and lack of discipline....I think there is a lot of jerry mandering still involved.

second, there is a notion that Jimmy was a disciplinarian...he wasn't. his top players had a long leash ala haley, Irvin, emmitt and a few others..... well chronicled...what everyone refers to is Jimmy cutting a nobody/no name third string RB after a bad week of practice and they all thing Jimmy was a disciplinarian...…Jimmy demanded professionalism from the players and his focus was on winning. as long as they won, these players did all kinds of shiet...again well chronicled....

 

[Shinaoi]

I disagree with the comment about garrett and lack of discipline....I think there is a lot of jerry mandering still involved.

second, there is a notion that Jimmy was a disciplinarian...he wasn't. his top players had a long leash ala haley, Irvin, emmitt and a few others..... well chronicled...what everyone refers to is Jimmy cutting a nobody/no name third string RB after a bad week of practice and they all thing Jimmy was a disciplinarian...…Jimmy demanded professionalism from the players and his focus was on winning. as long as they won, these players did all kinds of shiet...again well chronicled....

Jimmy cutting that one scrub has really grown into some myth that he was out there cutting anyone who was out of line. Those 90s cowboys were wild.

 

[Sydla]

well it sounds like the fans have the answers, because they want the coach fired. they want him fired today and they don't care and they have no other alternative in mind, but 100% they want the coach fired, asap.

my argument is if you want a head coach fired, even in your limited view and knowledge of the NFL football world, provide some alternatives....saying my uncle who coached peeve football is an option, then that makes you stupid and your wish of firing a coach meaningless (not you per se, but those who have that response)

there are quite a few fans on this board that are quite knowledgeable, have provided viable alternatives with scenarios for each....

and to your last point, I don't think garrett hasn't done squat. he has a winning record and there are a long list of coaches in the NFL that didn't. he has been to playoffs and has 1-2 record. your expectations are that he should have won 2 superbowls by now and he didn't. thus he hasn't done squat. I would take Garrett over Chip Kelly any day of the week. I would take Garrett over Wade any day of the week. I never wanted Wade as a head coach, from day 1 and expected it to end up in total failure as he had in previous stops. are there coaches I would take over garrett? ...heck yes.... but they are not available

and I wouldn't be surprised to see him let go after the season. and I even provided my ideal viable scenario in previous threads.....

You don't have to be a genius to understand that Garrett hasn't done a great job to date.

The notion that the opinion that Garrett has not done a good job and should be fired after this season if he doesn't make the playoffs is invalid or bogus or lacks credibility because one then hasn't laid out the plan on who should replace him is so bizarre.

One can reach the conclusion he's not the answer at head coach without then having come up with who should be his replacement.

And one more comment. You have no clue who is available or not.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

You don't have to be a genius to understand that Garrett hasn't done a great job to date.

The notion that the opinion that Garrett has not done a good job and should be fired after this season if he doesn't make the playoffs is invalid or bogus or lacks credibility because one then hasn't laid out the plan on who should replace him is so bizarre.

One can reach the conclusion he's not the answer at head coach without then having come up with who should be his replacement.

And one more comment. You have no clue who is available or not.

again, I am not arguing that he should HAVE BEEN fired. but to fire him now, a month prior to training camp is idiotic. there is no other word for it. that would end up as a worse disaster than garrett. if anything, after the season, the cowboys should move on...again, as mentioned I have put in my opinion as to what would be a good head coaching replacement for garrett.

at this point, a month before camp, there are no alternative, no other head coaches available. all coaches at all levels are getting ready for the regular season. its not just about replacing a head coach, but the entire coaching staff.

again, to fire garrett now is beyond stupidity. it will only create chaos. it will lead to a disastrous season, but I assume most garrett haters prefer a disastrous season over having garrett.

I don't happen to agree with that.