Garrett met with Murray during Mavs game

[mattjames2010]

I am discussing it with you but you are ignorant on the subject matter, just opinionated without being informed.

Gordon has break away home run ability on every down and Gurley is the most complete like M Lynch, true power, these two can be special especially behind this line.

Ajayi, Coleman, Duke and David Johnson, Abdullah, Yeldon, Allen, Artis-Payne, Davis, Cobb, Robinson offer plenty from the second on depending on what type of fit need.

Being informed does not mean you just agree with everything the experts think but the consensus by experts and evaluators is the draft is deep with good RB's.

Most of us agree because we see it as well and concur that you can find a good back deep into this draft as opposed to other years.

I can not watch tape with you, I can not force you to study what to look for, I can not force you to educate yourself on draft evaluation.

Again, not only do the experts disagree with with your analysis but most draft fans do as well, this class is deep because good backs can be had even in later rounds.

You have no idea if Gordon is making it to #27 many mocks think he will be there for us and Gurley going later due to the knee, these are educated projections, anything can happen on draft day.

Again, your argument was that this is not a deep RB class, just the same as every other year, these are your words.

You are wrong, the experts think you are wrong, most informed fans think you are wrong, that about sums the matter up.

No one is arguing every running back in this draft will be ALL PRO, just that the class is deep with some good running backs.

I agree on Gordon, I think he's talented; but no, I don't think he will be there at 27. Yes, obviously early picks in the draft dictate how things play out. We saw that back in the 2013 draft. I still don't want an RB taken in the first round, and I don't think the Cowboys will even if Murray walks. Second and third? That's fine with me, we have made RB a need in this offensive scheme. But I'd prefer to fix the defense. The draft is a crapshoot and unpredictable, I'm glad you're agreeing.

Now we are getting somewhere with you giving SOME analysis on RBs, this is productive; but still, quite small. But this is finally becoming a productive discussion. If you want to further that discussion, please do so. I'd much rather hear more about what you think makes these RBs good/great rather than the consensus.

Again, a "deep draft class" is a draft class that has multiple players that will produce one way or another in the NFL. This boils down to personal opinion, nothing is a fact yet. Not a single one of these RBs have played a down in football. To me, this draft class is still typical outside of the top 6 I named earlier. If you want to discuss each RB individually, please, I'm ready for that. That's productive, that's a stimulating conversation.

A look back at a deep draft class - that is 2008. That was a deep draft class, most of the top RBs in that draft produced eventually. I don't see that in this draft, sorry, I don't know what else to tell you. If you want to further the discussion, let me know. It will be long-winded due to discussion about each individual RB, but it's better than going around in circles.

 

[Rogerthat12]

I agree on Gordon, I think he's talented; but no, I don't think he will be there at 27. Yes, obviously early picks in the draft dictate how things play out. We saw that back in the 2013 draft. I still don't want an RB taken in the first round, and I don't think the Cowboys will even if Murray walks. Second and third? That's fine with me, we have made RB a need in this offensive scheme. But I'd prefer to fix the defense. The draft is a crapshoot and unpredictable, I'm glad you're agreeing.

Now we are getting somewhere with you giving SOME analysis on RBs, this is productive; but still, quite small. But this is finally becoming a productive discussion. If you want to further that discussion, please do so. I'd much rather hear more about what you think makes these RBs good/great rather than the consensus.

Again, a "deep draft class" is a draft class that has multiple players that will produce one way or another in the NFL. This boils down to personal opinion, nothing is a fact yet. Not a single one of these RBs have played a down in football. To me, this draft class is still typical outside of the top 6 I named earlier. If you want to discuss each RB individually, please, I'm ready for that. That's productive, that's a stimulating conversation.

A look back at a deep draft class - that is 2008. That was a deep draft class, most of the top RBs in that draft produced eventually. I don't see that in this draft, sorry, I don't know what else to tell you. If you want to further the discussion, let me know. It will be long-winded due to discussion about each individual RB, but it's better than going around in circles.

This discussion is now off topic, you really need to go to the Draft Zone if you would like to dialogue and discuss your opinions on these particular players.

To expect me to offer an analysis on each player in the open forum is not only against the rules but a ridiculous request due to the amount of prospects and forum type.

I do not have the time or desire to offer full descriptions and evaluations on each player in this forum, that is why we have the Draft Zone for such discussion and tons of analysis and opinions on the subject, go take a look and share your opinions.

The consensus on these players may have shades of variation in analysis but are quite similar in general and readily available to all but the draft zone has it all, along with the appropriate place to share your perspectives or take as well.

Sharing details, facts and analysis is a waste of time if someone has already made up their mind, an exercise in futility.

Pretty much all NFL team scouts, including ours and S. Jones agree this is a deep running back class.

Also, all draft experts, evaluators, personnel guys and draft fans agree, this is a deep RB class, nothing more to say to you.

You have your opinion to base your perspective, that is your right.

I just think you are wrong, along with all of the aforementioned, that is my right.

Cheers and enjoy Free Agency and the Draft!

 

[mattjames2010]

This discussion is now off topic, you really need to go to the Draft Zone if you would like to dialogue and discuss your opinions on these particular players.

To expect me to offer an analysis on each player in the open forum is not only against the rules but a ridiculous request due to the amount of prospects and forum type.

I do not have the time or desire to offer full descriptions and evaluations on each player in this forum, that is why we have the Draft Zone for such discussion and tons of analysis and opinions on the subject, go take a look and share your opinions.

The consensus on these players may have shades of variation in analysis but are quite similar in general and readily available to all but the draft zone has it all, along with the appropriate place to share your perspectives or take as well.

Sharing details, facts and analysis is a waste of time if someone has already made up their mind, an exercise in futility.

Pretty much all NFL team scouts, including ours and S. Jones agree this is a deep running back class.

Also, all draft experts, evaluators, personnel guys and draft fans agree, this is a deep RB class, nothing more to say to you.

You have your opinion to base your perspective, that is your right.

I just think you are wrong, along with all of the aforementioned, that is my right.

Cheers and enjoy Free Agency and the Draft!

So, basically, you were never interested in discussion.

But I'm glad you finally admitted, unintentionally, how ridiculous you were being.

 

[Rogerthat12]

So, basically, you were never interested in discussion.

But I'm glad you finally admitted, unintentionally, how ridiculous you were being.

Personal attacks are stupid, just move on to the draft zone, you are off topic now.

 

[Brooksey]

And I'd bet money he couldn't do that anywhere else but here. And that someone else can get close to that production for a fraction of the money, particularly with a loaded RB draft class coming up.

Plus Murray is looking for a deal well beyond Romo's window. What happens when we are grooming a young QB and we are saddled with a rapidly declining Murray because of his huge contract?

Murray is not going to get a long-term deal past the Romo window. The Romo Window is at best 4-5 years, most likely three years.. Demarco could get 5 years 40million, and he can be cut in year 4 or 5 with minimal cap damage if contract done right.

 

[Bungarian]

Re-signing Murray for big money is a huge mistake.

 

[justbob]

Enough sniping..Stay on thread or take your "discussion" to messages

 

[phildadon86]

Garrett shouldnt be speaking with Demarco unless he has permission from JJ and Stephen. Thats my opinion.

 

[Sportsbabe]

One would assume you don't show up after a game is finished to talk to a free-agent running back to say goodbye. Just like the source said, this meeting was significant. Currently, they are going to a new location to further discuss. I don't think this is a thank you and goodbye type of convo.

Why are you bringing logic and intellect into this conversation

 

[Fletch]

I will say this though, if Murray re-signs I think he needs to apologize for acting like a little you know what on Twitter.

That, and give his entire signing bonus to the real heroes, his Online.

 

[BrAinPaiNt]

That, and give his entire signing bonus to the real heroes, his Online.

Should he announce he is giving his bonus to the online...online so they can read it on twitter?

 

[Sage3030]

Should he announce he is giving his bonus to the online...online so they can read it on twitter?

Hey, if he puts it on the line, I'm getting me some.

 

[JohnnyHopkins]

Garrett shouldnt be speaking with Demarco unless he has permission from JJ and Stephen. Thats my opinion.

Are we all certain that JJ and Stephen were not aware? I am just getting online this morning, so it is possible that he has gone rogue, but everything I have read i the last ten minutes was pretty vague on the details.

 

[Stryker44]

Is what Garrett did tampering? Murray isn't a member of any team anymore.

 

[phildadon86]

For the record, i read it somewhere in this thread, did someone actually say that Murray doesnt need to have home run speed because he is there to control the tempo of the game? Are you serious? lol. Putting points on the board doesnt do that?

 

[boysfanindc]

Is what Garrett did tampering? Murray isn't a member of any team anymore.

They are free agents anyone can talk to them.

 

[Sasquatch]

We saw what happened when Merriweather and Pacquaio met at a basketball game.

 

[Dave_in-NC]

Is what Garrett did tampering? Murray isn't a member of any team anymore.

How can you tamper with FREE agent?

 

[Dave_in-NC]

Garrett shouldnt be speaking with Demarco unless he has permission from JJ and Stephen. Thats my opinion.

Jerry said as late as yesterday they want Murray back. I'm sure he would be ok with JG talking to Murray.

 

[BrAinPaiNt]

Is what Garrett did tampering? Murray isn't a member of any team anymore.

Trolling, Good joke...or you really don't know.

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