GB - Quick thoughts Week 5

Dave_in-NC

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I do think there is something to a change to shouldering responsibility when Romo is in there. I think sometimes it feels like players expect Romo to carry the team instead of working as a collective unit that elevates everyone.

If Romo can start and be completely healthy and we stick to the game plan we had in 2014 and the level of execution we've had this year we should be a powerhouse by season's end.

Our defense played really well the last two weeks. especially the secondary.

This, most of the team just relied so much on Romo. That can't be the case with Dak. If the coaching staff sticks to the type of game plans they are running so far this season, Romo will make this team better. Keep the ball on the ground until you cant.
 

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We went into this game 2nd in the league in rushing yards, and 10th in the league in points allowed. We're 21st in the league in passing yards... Dak is at the moment a bus driver who can use his legs to move the chains and score
Whoa. No. In 2014, we were 17th in passing yards. You don't succeed by piling up more passing yards, you succeed by passing more efficiently than your opponent, and by scoring points. Going into today's game, we were 4th in the NFL in points per drive, and 10th in passer rating. We're about to go up in both categories.
 

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Whoa. No. In 2014, we were 17th in passing yards. You don't succeed by piling up more passing yards, you succeed by passing more efficiently than your opponent, and by scoring points. Going into today's game, we were 4th in the NFL in points per drive, and 10th in passer rating. We're about to go up in both categories.


We were actually 16th in the league in passing yards in 2014, not 17th. Then we were 4th in the league in passing touchdowns and first in the league in QB rating.

We came into this game 32nd (tied for 30th) in the league in passing touchdowns, and 11th in the league in quarterback rating.

To think that Dak is better than Romo is simply ridiculous.
 

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I'll take the 2014 Romo over the 2016 Prescott, but what does that have to do with anything real?.

Then why are you even discussing 2014 with me then? I think you didn't realize what a huge difference there was. Romo looked great in the offseason this year. No reason to think that he can't play at that level, especially with a better offense around him than in 2014.
 

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If your first response was that 2014 didn't matter, your argument would have merit. You didn't say that, you engaged, and when you lost the debate, you just said it doesn't matter... How does that work?
 

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First I want to really gloat a little bit here, there were just so many people who thought Bosa or Ramsey should be the pick and they even went further saying Morris should start the season. These are the same type of people who think Dak who is doing a commendable job should replace a top 5 QB in the league.

Simple is the only word I have for it.

Let's go back to Elliott. This kid is a beast and he didn't even get his touches. I wonder if Garrett told him to stop the feed me gesture. They got kind of cute putting Morris in late in the 4th. The game certainly hadn't been won yet. He continues to be the league leader in rushing yards, his touchdown numbers are increasing, and if he can stay healthy and continue to improve I think hands down he is going to be the best running back in the league, and certainly worth the 4th overall pick.

Now back to Dak. As I said he is doing a great job. He should be commended, the front office should be for picking him as well. I'm glad we drafted him in the 4th instead of wasting a first rounder on a QB, because the fact is Romo is still the franchise here. We went into this game 2nd in the league in rushing yards, and 10th in the league in points allowed. We're 21st in the league in passing yards... Dak is at the moment a bus driver who can use his legs to move the chains and score. We have yet to lean on him and ask him to win the game with his arm.

If it weren't for Elliott this team isn't 4-1. With Romo we're 5-0.

Marinelli is doing a great job with this defense, and it really seems as though getting Lawrence back has helped elevate this defense to another level. The secondary is playing so well, we're in a position where you basically have to re-sign Carr and Claiborne because they're playing so well.

I'm glad we didn't listen to the over reactors who wanted to get rid of Marinelli and Linehan... I love the Cowboys but the fans and the media are textbook over reactors. Even heard people saying that we no longer need Dez Bryant.

I said early in the offseason that if we got Elliott this team would win a super bowl within the next two years. That still depends on Romo, but this team is showing you right now that they can take care of business without their stars. That's very new, but it is also very reassuring. When we start playing better teams, we'll need Romo and Dez, and if you think otherwise, you don't know football.

This team is 4-1 and I don't anticipate the Packers beating us, but they'll need to continue to ramp up the pass rush and run the ball more.

I agree with most of what you said. I would try and resign Mo if he stays healthy this year. Carr while serviceable will try and parlay this season into a pay day and I just do not think JJ would pay both considering Carr's age. I expect Scandrick to return at some point and at least be on par with Carr. I do believe we need to address Scandrick in the draft maybe 2-4 round if there is no superstar DL available. I believe the team will spend 1st on pass rushing DE to replace Gregory
 

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Do I really have to name all the games hes choked by throwing game ending INTs? Do I really have to? Cause I will be here all night.
How many games were we in just because he is the QB. Sometimes when you are the only thing that can make the offense work, of course you will be blamed. Romo did way too much early in his career because he had a bad team around him, eith suspect Defense, suspect OL, suspect receivers.
 

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I agree with most of what you said. I would try and resign Mo if he stays healthy this year. Carr while serviceable will try and parlay this season into a pay day and I just do not think JJ would pay both considering Carr's age. I expect Scandrick to return at some point and at least be on par with Carr. I do believe we need to address Scandrick in the draft maybe 2-4 round if there is no superstar DL available. I believe the team will spend 1st on pass rushing DE to replace Gregory



The team really likes Carr, I think he doesn't have a pay day waiting for him anywhere. I think he can be signed to a manageable contract. Claiborne on the other hand is probably going to get paid. He's probably going to the pro bowl at this rate.
 

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lol every thread now ends in a Dak vs. Romo debate

And I don't know why it has to be that way. I just want to win. I don't care who does it whether it's with Dak starting the rest of the season or Romo replacing him. My goal is for my team to get to the Super Bowl and as long as the team plays whoever gives them the best chance to do it, I'm OK with that.

Now, I know the debate is over who gives them the best chance, but there's plenty of time for that to play out.
 

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Thing is, when Romo is in we get away from playing this type of efficient offense too easily. Team gets all "Romo friendly" and cute and mistakes lose us games. Dak is forcing them to lean onto their strength, reduce the over-the-top line calls, and get results.

Were you in a cave without a tv for all of 2014?
 

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There are two messages getting tossed around in this thread that are nonsense.
1. Dak is just a bus driver. Ridiculous.
2. Tony isn't great. Ridiculous.

There's no need for this, people.

With this offensive line and running game...and the surprising defense...both quarterbacks might very well be capable of pro-bowl level performance.

It will be a difficult decision for the coaches if Romo in fact gets healthy enough to play.
 

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To think that Dak is better than Romo is simply ridiculous.

No one is saying Dak is better than Romo. But Dak is healthier than Romo.

Romo is like your star employee ... but you don't know if he's going to be calling sick the next month.
 

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There are two messages getting tossed around in this thread that are nonsense.
1. Dak is just a bus driver. Ridiculous.
2. Tony isn't great. Ridiculous.

There's no need for this, people.

I agree with this. I think Romo is a better QB at this point in his career (duh), but I wonder how many games it will take to get him up to form. Brady stepped in today but he's been healthy and working out. Romo has not.

Something I heard from Rodney Harrison tonight (I usually don't listen) is that if the team, our real young core, is behind and playing for Dak, then a coach can lose the team by making a change for front office reasons. If Romo comes back rusty this will only make it worse. I'm in no way saying it makes this decision for Dak, but they need to really get the players input on this one.
 

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I don't even know where to start with this. Wow.

I'd stat with that nonsense where it's somehow Dak's fault that this team isn't 5-0. I watched the game, and it was Bryant and Beasley dropping sure touchdowns that ultimately led to that lone defeat, not anything Prescott did.
 
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