GB - Quick thoughts Week 5

[Stash]

Were you asleep for all of 2014? Romo is 15-4 in his last 19 games...

Were you asleep for 2015?

 

[DFWJC]

"If it weren't for Elliott this team isn't 4-1. With Romo we're 5-0."

lmao.. pure speculation. Romo never went 5-0 in his 10 year as a starter, and now he would have gone 5-0?

Wrong again....like clockwork

Romo (and the team)

• Started 5-0 in 2007
• Had another 7 game streak later that year
• Won 6 in a row in 2014
• not to mention a bunch of 4 game streaks
  
  That doesn't diminish one bit what the Cowboys have done with Dak
  

 

[PBCCowboy]

Romo is finished.Done.I thank him for his valiant effort,hell of a player and amazing story,but the Cowboys are now a youth movement and it is galvanizing....they are playing good football.EE is now the centerpiece of the offense.Dak is not turning the ball over.It's working.

 

[Alexander]

Garrett appeared to say something to Elliott after he did his feed me gesture one time too many.

Good. I hope he keeps doing it. Just to rustle some jimmies.

 

[links18]

This fan base has turned on Antonio Ramiro Romo.

The crap's going to hit the fan if he comes back to a one loss team and plays poorly. Reality might as well shut this place down for awhile.

Its already pretty embarrassingly ugly around here and Romo is still weeks away.

 

[fishspill]

Were you in a cave without a tv for all of 2014?

Is 2014 the only year Romo has played? And if you could approach the discussion without the childish flourish that'd be swell.

 

[Oh_Canada]

Romo doesn't beat the Skins, he probably leaves the stadium in a body cast.

 

[T-RO]

I agree with this. I think Romo is a better QB at this point in his career (duh), but I wonder how many games it will take to get him up to form. Brady stepped in today but he's been healthy and working out. Romo has not.

Something I heard from Rodney Harrison tonight (I usually don't listen) is that if the team, our real young core, is behind and playing for Dak, then a coach can lose the team by making a change for front office reasons. If Romo comes back rusty this will only make it worse. I'm in no way saying it makes this decision for Dak, but they need to really get the players input on this one.

Chemistry does come into consideration.

The coaches just want to win and they are going to make the decision they think best helps the team win. They lose their job and their reputation if they don't win! But unfortunately we live in a world where there can be a lot of perceived bias when often bias isn't there at all. Leaders just trying to make the best decision. But then suddenly bad feelings can set in as people read it a certain way.

Momentum also comes into consideration. And the team with Dak at QB is building a lot of positive momentum.

 

[Bigdog]

There are two messages getting tossed around in this thread that are nonsense.
1. Dak is just a bus driver. Ridiculous.
2. Tony isn't great. Ridiculous.

There's no need for this, people.

With this offensive line and running game...and the surprising defense...both quarterbacks might very well be capable of pro-bowl level performance.

It will be a difficult decision for the coaches if Romo in fact gets healthy enough to play.

Agree. If Dak keeps winning I don't care if he is a bus driver. Romo is great. One of the top ten qbs on the league and I believe holds the most 4th quarter come backs among active qbs. It is going to be a difficult decision for the coaches to make but it is a decision that I think it won't be wrong either way.

 

[DandyDon52]

Garrett appeared to say something to Elliott after he did his feed me gesture one time too many.

I saw that, JG was doing the feed me thing when he was talking to him.

 

[DandyDon52]

Maybe Romo isn't done maybe he is but it's foolish to think Romo is the same player he was in 2014. Dak is playing really well, you can't deny it. And not only that you can't say he is a bus driver because he makes safe decisions with the ball. He gave us a chance to win against the Giants but recievers let him down all game. Against San Francisco he came back from 14-0 to win. Sure Zeke is helping but a big reason for 4-1 is because of Dak......

That being said you only speculating that Romo would be 5-0. Like if I said Romo wouldn't have made it out the first game without injury that is speculating. It could happen or it could not. What we know without speculating is this team is coming together with Dak and Zeke leading the way. I'm not so sure it's a good idea to just bring Romo back if we are still playing this way and we are only getting better each and every game. Even our defense pitched a shut out until garbage time when we went conservative

yeah the op is pro romo, I think it all revolves around Dak.

People can say Romo would be 5-0 and more td's etc, but that isnt just speculation, it is pure fantasy !
What is real is this team is 4-1, a 1 point loss, and 4 wins in a row.
Dallas is tied for 2nd in number of TD's -15, only atlanta has more with 18.

What dak has done is real, and what tony would have done or will due, is just fantasy till he does it.
I bet even witten wants to stick with Dak !
Why..... they are winning ~!

I like Tony, but he is a maybe maybe not situation, and the smart thing is to stick with what is working now.
I already heard one media person say even if they lose to GB, and dak plays good, they should stick with him.
The games coming up are tougher, so might as well see how it goes with Dak, and wait for losing to go back to Tony.

The good thing about waiting is Tony has more time to heal up, and practice, so far he hasnt even been practicing!

I love the whole cinderella story with Dak , I want to see it play out.
Tony can have next year , just let Dak have this year.

 

[Redball Express]

Lets keep it the same as a few weeks ago, GB is going to destroy us. No way can we win there with a rookie QB

I'm not so sure about that..

watched the Jints-Packers tonite and Lacy is hurt and Rodgers looks off.

In fact..DAK plays a lot like Rodgers.

Same good playfakes, same rolloutsize and runs up the field.

Same accuracy in the pocket and when on the move.

I think our run game is better than theirs and our PK Bailey and punter Jones are their equals.

Their defense is better but I think our offense will give them a run for their money.

It is no more a slam duck for them than it was for the 9ers or Cincy..

I would hope they think Lambeau Field is their house like in their commercials..

We feed off of underestimation.

IMO

 

[coult44]

Tony Romo is 15-4 in his last 19 games, but yes, keep telling yourself that he was the problem in Dallas.

GB, I'm not with you on this one. I will be the first one to say Tony wasn't always the problem. For a very long time he was the only one to really cheer for. He put the team, the coaches, the GM (cough), and the owner on his back and tried to carry them to a SB. But, like I've told y'all for a couple 2-3 years, once he had the first back injury, you remember don't you?The cyst that had to be removed. (Cough again) it was going to be the beginning of the end. Several broken bones in his back and shoulder later, and he's missing serious time two years in a row because of his problem with the back injuries. It's nothing against Tony, he had a great career. I wouldn't even be opposed to him being in the ROH, but it's time to move forward.

I have a question. Let's say Tony comes back in two weeks against Philly. He starts and we digress. Down 21-10 at half with one int thrown by Tony. What are the fans going to be doing at half? When Tony comes out for third quarter and the fans are booing and calling for Dak, what's gonna happen? How will he respond, and is that the way you will be ok with it ending I **** comes to that?Every throw is going to cause either a cheer or a jeer. Then let's just say for the sake of conversation that we end up losing 30-13 ,and we never get going offensively. What happens the next week? How far do you let it go and let TR get into his game, if he's not producing, before you decide he's had time, but not getting it done?

I say this is what we should do. Ride this wave while it's hot! See how long Dak can perform at this level and keep winning. If he can go 8-2 or 7-3 and still be in the playoffs, let him keep playing. If at anytime he starts to lose, aand go In the tank, pull him and let Tony take over. I'm almost inclined to say Tony would say the exact same thing. After all, that's the type person and pro he is. Team first always!!!!

 

[ConstantReboot]

We were actually 16th in the league in passing yards in 2014, not 17th. Then we were 4th in the league in passing touchdowns and first in the league in QB rating.

We came into this game 32nd (tied for 30th) in the league in passing touchdowns, and 11th in the league in quarterback rating.

To think that Dak is better than Romo is simply ridiculous.

Well after 4 games Dak IS better than Romo.

Stats are stats. But Dak is moving this team up and down better than I expected. This is not a knock on Romo. Just that Dak is surpassing expectations and don't want to mess with the momentum we have going for us now.

 

[Tabascocat]

I'm not so sure about that..

watched the Jints-Packers tonite and Lacy is hurt and Rodgers looks off.

In fact..DAK plays a lot like Rodgers.

Same good playfakes, same rolloutsize and runs up the field.

Same accuracy in the pocket and when on the move.

I think our run game is better than theirs and our PK Bailey and punter Jones are their equals.

Their defense is better but I think our offense will give them a run for their money.

It is no more a slam duck for them than it was for the 9ers or Cincy..

I would hope they think Lambeau Field is their house like in their commercials..

We feed off of underestimation.

IMO

I was being sarcastic, I like being underestimated. When we get over-hyped......things usually go bad.

 

[OriginalNameGuy]

Tony Romo is 15-4 in his last 19 games, but yes, keep telling yourself that he was the problem in Dallas.

Yup, Romo is an amazing talent when he is healthy. However recent history suggests he is one hit away from needing to retire. I enjoy being able to watch Cowboy football without worrying about Romo's back or Romo's collarbone. Getting rid of Romo and his 100 million dollar contract will allow this team to get even better than it currently is.

 

[drawandstrike]

The great thing about today's game is I only saw the trainers have to go out on the field once - when Wilber got shaken up.

Besides that we appear to have gotten out of this game injury free. If we can get through the Packers game with no one of consequence going down with an injury, we'll hit the bye week looking good.

Dez, Romo, Scandrick, Tyron, all the people dealing with injuries will get that extra week to heal up and get stronger before we take on the Eagles.

 

[Galian Beast]

GB, I'm not with you on this one. I will be the first one to say Tony wasn't always the problem. For a very long time he was the only one to really cheer for. He put the team, the coaches, the GM (cough), and the owner on his back and tried to carry them to a SB. But, like I've told y'all for a couple 2-3 years, once he had the first back injury, you remember don't you?The cyst that had to be removed. (Cough again) it was going to be the beginning of the end. Several broken bones in his back and shoulder later, and he's missing serious time two years in a row because of his problem with the back injuries. It's nothing against Tony, he had a great career. I wouldn't even be opposed to him being in the ROH, but it's time to move forward.

I have a question. Let's say Tony comes back in two weeks against Philly. He starts and we digress. Down 21-10 at half with one int thrown by Tony. What are the fans going to be doing at half? When Tony comes out for third quarter and the fans are booing and calling for Dak, what's gonna happen? How will he respond, and is that the way you will be ok with it ending I **** comes to that?Every throw is going to cause either a cheer or a jeer. Then let's just say for the sake of conversation that we end up losing 30-13 ,and we never get going offensively. What happens the next week? How far do you let it go and let TR get into his game, if he's not producing, before you decide he's had time, but not getting it done?

I say this is what we should do. Ride this wave while it's hot! See how long Dak can perform at this level and keep winning. If he can go 8-2 or 7-3 and still be in the playoffs, let him keep playing. If at anytime he starts to lose, aand go In the tank, pull him and let Tony take over. I'm almost inclined to say Tony would say the exact same thing. After all, that's the type person and pro he is. Team first always!!!!

You're being reactionary. You've seen that the Cowboys have had success after a really bad year without Romo last year and your conclusion is causation rather than correlation.

Again, if you compare Romo's play, the answer is clear here. It's a completely different offense with him. As for his back injuries, he had the best year of his career in 2014... None of his injuries since have been things that would impact his play in a long term way.

 

[TwoDeep3]

If Dallas plays the game plan they did in 2014 and focus on the rushing attack and Romo makes the important throw when needed, then he should do well.

But, this requires Romo to be that quarterback. If he shows up as a 36 year old quarterback that injuries and Father Time has robbed of his talent, then what?

No one on this board knows what Romo will bring because we haven't seen him play since last November.

Having said that, if we get the Romo of past seasons, then he should be the starter. As long as he is not called on to carry the team.

But...

When the day comes that he doesn't have that magic he had before, I predict there will be a vocal minority who clamors that he just needs to practice more.

I understand this transition is tough. And Dak will look pedestrian at times. Which will fire up the ones who have difficulty letting Romo go, when the time comes. But this is what happens. The old give way to the young.

 

[NoLuv4Jerry]

You guys that think we would be 5-0 with Romo have not been paying attention. This ENTIRE team....coaches and players.....are playing and coaching at a higher level BECAUSE of Dak. Dak is NOT a better QB than Romo. But this entire organization has been content for YEARS to sit back and watch Romo do everything...and it broke his back! In hindsight....I suspect the coaches had little control over the offense. Romo had the green light to do whatever he wanted. We are getting contributions from everyone. In a tight spot...the ball does not automatically go to Witten. The other pass catchers are playing harder because they know there is a chance they are going to get the ball. The pace of the offense is better. The defense is on their heels. And quite frankly...this organization should tell the media we are "discussing the players that are on the field, we we will discuss Romo WHEN he is on the field"!