Giants - Cowboys comparison

[Gryphon]

By paraflux1 from another sport forum:

Ok, so after reading several about thow the Giants are #1 spot and the Eagles fighting for 1st, with the Cowboys and Commanders fighting over here sits right above the bottom. I figured I would take a second just to look at some information and figure out exactly why the Cowboys are so looked down upon this year and I'll put the stats out there so maybe someone can clue me in, because frankly I don't get it.

So here we go;

WR: The Cowboys lost TO and the Giants lost Plax. Burress - This is a wash, both recievers are good but not on the teams anymore.

I won't count Roy Williams or the Giants rookies in the stats because this will be their first full season with the teams and there is no clue about how they are going to play.

So who do we have left?

(Giants) Amani Toomer

REC - 48, YDS - 580, AVG - 12.1, LONG - 40, TD - 4

(Cowboys) Patrick Crayton

REC - 39, YDS - 550, AVG - 14.1, LONG - 55, TD - 4

(Giants) Domenik Hixon

REC - 43, YDS - 596, AVG - 13.9, LONG - 41, TD - 2

(Cowboys) Miles Austin

REC - 13, YDS - 278, AVG - 21.4, LONG - 63, TD - 3

So minus out the new guys are the Cowboys and Giants are pretty close as far as WR goes. They have alittle more depth but overall the stats are pretty much the same.

TE:

(Giants) Kevin Boss

REC - 33, YDS - 384, AVG - 11.6, LONG - 28, TD - 6

(Cowboys) Jason Witten

REC - 81, YDS - 952, AVG - 11.8, LONG - 42, TD - 4

(Giants) Dacy Johnson

REC - 4, YDS - 46, AVG - 11.5, LONG - 26, TD - 2

(Cowboys) Martellus Bennett

REC - 20, YDS - 283, AVG - 14.2, LONG - 37, TD - 4

This one is pretty obvious the Cowboys are better stacked at this position than the Giants.


RB:

Derrick Wards stats will not be counted in this list because he is no longer with the team.

(Giants) Brandon Jacobs

ATT - 219, YDS - 1089, AVG - 5.0, LONG - 44, TD - 15

(Cowboys) Marion Barber

ATT - 238, YDS - 885, AVG - 3.7, LONG - 35, TD - 7

(Giants) Ahmad Bradshaw

ATT - 67, YDS - 355, AVG - 5.3, LONG - 77, TD - 1

(Cowboys) Felix Jones

ATT - 30, YDS - 266, AVG - 8.9, LONG - 60, TD - 3

(Cowboys) Tashard Choice

ATT - 92, YDS - 472, AVG - 5.1, LONG - 38, TD - 2

While the Giants running game last year was dangerous and very solid, they lost a big piece of that in one of their 1000+ rushers. Depending on how the depth of their running game plays I will give the edge to the Cowboys on this one. One can imagine what Felix Jones stats would have been if he hadn't have been injured.

QB:

(Giants) Eli Manning

CMP - 289, ATT - 479, YDS - 3238, COMP % - 60.3, YPA - 6.76, TD - 21, INT - 10 , RAT - 86.4

(Cowboys) Tony Romo

CMP - 276, ATT - 450, YDS - 3448, COMP % - 61.3, YPA - 7.66, TD - 26, INT - 14, RAT - 91.4

Both QBs were faily good. Romo missing 3 games plus the broken finger surely didn't help but still but up good numbers. While Eli is the proven of the 2 with the superbowl win I would say both QBs are equal.

Just looking at the overall offensive stats I don't understand why the Cowboys can't put up a good fight in any game and at least challenge for the top. Why this whole 8-8 at best, no play off spots, bottom of the barrell stuff is what everyone is predicting is beyond me.

Look at the stats themselves, do you honestly not believe we can't put up a good season?

 

[DBOY3141]

Toomer no longer plays for the Giants.

 

[Aikbach]

Dallas will win 11 games, maybe 12.
Contend for division, maybe a first round bye.

 

[Rampage]

Dallas will win 11 games, maybe 12.
Contend for division, maybe a first round bye.

keep going...

 

[Whiskey Cowboy]

By paraflux1 from another sport forum:


Look at the stats themselves, do you honestly not believe we can't put up a good season?

not sayin I disagree with ya, but there is more to a football team then just skill position's. Many would argue that the Giants defense and offensive line are superior to ours....but like I said, I dont disagree that we should be better than we are being portrayed

 

[BBWC]

This is just a terrible comparison, and I'm not saying this because I'm a homer, the myriad of inaccuracies just make for painful reading. And games are won in the trenches, the Giants have a top 5 offensive line, and the best defensive line hands down in the NFL. It's pointless arguing over whose skill position players are slightly better.

 

[Rampage]

This is just a terrible comparison, and I'm not saying this because I'm a homer, the myriad of inaccuracies just make for painful reading. And games are won in the trenches, the Giants have a top 5 offensive line, and the best defensive line hands down in the NFL. It's pointless arguing over whose skill position players are slightly better.

until your wrs make some plays your offense is 1 dimensional.

 

[SLATEmosphere]

keep going...

LOL and the NFC Championship game!! Although we would all like the Superbowl, I think NFC championship game is a very realistic goal for this year.

 

[NextGenBoys]

until your wrs make some plays your offense is 1 dimensional.

Witten, Bennett, and Felix don't count? And Roy will be just fine. Just wait.

 

[Whiskey Cowboy]

Witten, Bennett, and Felix don't count? And Roy will be just fine. Just wait.

I think he was talking to the Gints fan

 

[Rampage]

Witten, Bennett, and Felix don't count? And Roy will be just fine. Just wait.

I was responding to a giants fan. his name "BBWC" stands for Big Blue Wrecking Crew.

 

[BBWC]

until your wrs make some plays your offense is 1 dimensional.

The Giants offense got along fine against the Seahawks, Cardinals, Panthers and even the Vikings (for the half they played) without Plaxico. Granted some of those defenses hardly classify as good, but the only teams the Giants offense struggled against last year without Plaxico was the Eagles and Cowboys, two elite defenses. We added three new receiving threats in the draft, and are expecting production out of Manningham, if only one or two of these guys pan out our passing game will be just fine, and our coaching staff has now had plenty of time to adjust the offense to life without Plax.

We did pretty well against the Commanders number 4 ranked defense as well.

 

[Whiskey Cowboy]

you may be right about Plax but what about life after Derrick Ward..I think that is gonna be a big loss for you guys

 

[BBWC]

you may be right about Plax but what about life after Derrick Ward..I think that is gonna be a big loss for you guys

Who was Derrick Ward before the Giants acquired him? A 7th round castoff of the Jets. I don't mean to denigrate the guy just because he's off the team, he is a good player, but he was a product of our offensive line. We won a Super Bowl with the guy on IR. Andre Brown, Ahmad Bradshaw and Danny Ware will fill the void, as long as our starting five up front is healthy, our running game is good to go.

 

[Whiskey Cowboy]

maybe:starspin

 

[ScipioCowboy]

Comparing the Cowboys with the Giants seems a trifle defeatist unless the goal is being the second-best team in the division. Currently, the Eagles reign supreme in the East; this won't change until there are substantial philosophical changes within the Cowboys organization.

 

[wick]

Games aren't won on paper. Right now, we are a 9-7 team coming off a game where we undeniably quit with the playoffs on the line. How anyone can look at this year's team and start throwing around 11 or 12 wins and the NFC Championship Game is beyond me. We're an 8-8 team right now until proven otherwise.

 

[NextGenBoys]

I was responding to a giants fan. his name "BBWC" stands for Big Blue Wrecking Crew.

Durrrrrrrrrr :bang2: My bad.

 

[Switz]

Giants have played in 3 superbowls this decade and are 2-1 and defeated a team that was 16-0.

Hands down the Giants have been far more sucessful than the cowboys in the past 10 years.

Giants> Cowboys until we prove other wise

deal with it.

 

[ScipioCowboy]

Giants have played in 3 superbowls this decade and are 2-1 and defeated a team that was 16-0.

Hands down the Giants have been far more sucessful than the cowboys in the past 10 years.

Giants> Cowboys until we prove other wise

deal with it.