Giants Defense Main Reason to Sign Flozell

[khiladi]

Flo is the toughest own Free Agent decision the Cowboys have probably faced in the last number of years.

He didn't play great in the 2nd half against the Giants. But did you see the game yesterday? The Patriots' vaunted oline looked like crap from every side/direction.

Flo did pitch shutouts for 5 out of 6 halves against them this season. Then the Giants coaching staff took a risk and went all out against us pass rushing in the 2nd half and it worked for them in the game against us, and all throughout the playoffs actually.

Flo doesn't have upside as some have said, and could have relatively large downside if not motivated or dinged up again. On the other hand he is a pro-bowler and this year recognized as an "All Pro". That doesn't really fit with the "11th best LT in the league". He shut down a bunch of top DE's this season, and even when playing mediocre, there were areas for Romo to escape to, because Flo wasn't being pushed back at all. Go watch Tucker, Fabini, Petiti on tape and see how they got pushed back into a constantly collapsing pocket. At least this year our oline was pushing the other team and when pressure occured it was because there was space between our oline-men to run through.

I think it will come down to money. If Flo doesn't wish to play in Dallas for a bit of a home discount and wants to be paid huge dollars, I think the team will let him walk. If Flo is willing to sign a reasonable 3-4 year deal (it will still be huge obviously) then I think the Cowboys work to resign him. They may very well let Flo test the market and see what the going price is for him.

I'm pretty sure there will be 3-5 interested in Flo and 2-3 very willing to offer big dollars, even if the contract isn't for 5+ years.

I could even see Phili and Washington taking a run at Flo.

LT is important, but I suppose teams have shown it's not the end of the world to replace them as people have posted here. On the other hand, none of those teams were the Cowboys, because when Flo went down in the past, we absolutely sucked on the oline. Sure we have 3 young guys in McQuistan, Free, and Marten, BUT we are kidding ourselves if we think they have even been slightly tested. The simple fact is they haven't been and we don't know what they have at an NFL level.

It's a huge risk to lose a guy who at the very least is an above average LT, and to replace him with basically a rookie LT, and hope to take the next step to win the superbowl. Indi tried this year, and the rookie played pretty well, but made some gaffs in playoffs.

LarryCanadian

This decision is going to come down to Hudson Houck, the man among men when it comes to producing O-Linemen... Jerry is going to ask Hudson is Flo needs to be re-signed... if Hudson says yes, consider it done...

 

[Aliencowboy]

When you think about it, it's amazing that this OL
shut the Giants pass rush down twice and did a hell of
job in the playoff game.

 

[AmishCowboy]

When you think about it, it's amazing that this OL
shut the Giants pass rush down twice and did a hell of
job in the playoff game.

Flo did a good job against them for 2 games and 3 Quarters, I think we are a little tough on him here.

 

[This is Our Year]

Flozel has always done very well against Osi;other than the 4th Quarter in the playoff game a few weeks ago.

 

[burmafrd]

I think our O line got tired. The Giants, just like last night, were constantly subing to keep them rested. Only they managed to keep it up to the end against us, while the Pats were able to contain them in their second to last drive. I still think we did not have our big uglies conditioned as they needed to be late in the season.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

I was thinking this when Romo got blitzed into submission against them in the 4th quarter

what's funny is that the great Pat Oline was in trouble the moment the game began, while we handled the same blitz greatly until they started playing scared in the 4th

this is why it's so maddening, we had Barber rush for over 100 yards in a half, Crayton is usually money, the Oline was dominating, and then it all just fell apart

 

[Bob Sacamano]

All these Flo lovers act as if there's no life after Flo.

We need to move on and not sign players with age. We simply have to get younger and cheaper. There's no way we can afford a 35 year old OT who's going to command $10 mil a year.

We have to move on. Such is life.

Heck, if it were up to some of you guys ... Michael Irvin would still be playing.

there is life after Flo, we just don't want it to end until McQ or Free is ready to step up

I would like 1 more year to give the guys strength and conditioning work before we move on w/ them, yes it's a luxury, but we should think hard about affording it

 

[Bob Sacamano]

I'm glad someone else realizes how great he's been. Like, one of the best in the league great. I think we'd be foolish to let that go now, even if it means franchise time. I'd much rather let Hamlin walk than Flo.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

I dont think there is any chance any of those guys play as well as flo next year, but without experience how will they get better. Playing any of the other 3 will definitely be a bump down in talent and quality of play next season, but will it be enough to derail the season or cause us to miss the playoffs? that is the bigger question.

they will be better from the offseason work and exposure to the league like all other rookies.

isn't that the same argument people were using to start Romo and/or Henson? sitting Romo for 3 and half years worked out great

 

[Bob Sacamano]

How do you know he wasn't?


Rich's numbers show Adams to be the 11th best LT in the NFL. That's good but it's not like he can't be replaced.

that was because of penalties, his play on the field was top-notch, I think he was 1st or 2nd in run-blocking among OTs

 

[Bob Sacamano]

jterrel and Larry Canadian laying down the wood up in herrr

 

[theogt]

Post padding anyone?

 

[Bob Sacamano]

Post padding anyone?

just got off work, got alot of catching up to do

 

[Vintage]

On one hand, it is a position where we are going to need to get younger at in the near future. And we could use the extra cap dollars in the near, near future with Ware/Newman....

On the other hand, do we really want to head into next year with a question mark at LT?

I mean.... I guess if worse came to worse, we could put Leonard Davis out there at LT if Free/McQuistan failed at LT. Gulp.

I think we'll keep Flozell. Jerry will want some continuity in the OL heading into next year. And it probably should be done anyway....