Giants worst Sb team ever

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Beating two of the top passing teams in the league, on the road, with that banged up secondary, shows a lot of heart. Something we are sorely lacking.

Heart is one of the biggest components of "playing well", especially at this time of year. The Giants deserve it.
 

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TheHerd;1921843 said:
Beating two of the top passing teams in the league, on the road, with that banged up secondary, shows a lot of heart. Something we are sorely lacking.

Heart is one of the biggest components of "playing well", especially at this time of year. The Giants deserve it.


Its freakin ridiculous.... freakin mind blowing.... I still cant believe that we couldnt take advantage of that.... TWO YEARS IN A ROW
 

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YoMick;1921848 said:
Its freakin ridiculous.... freakin mind blowing.... I still cant believe that we couldnt take advantage of that.... TWO YEARS IN A ROW

Chances are the Packer fans feel the same. I give the Giant secondary credit though. They were able defend the long ball for the most part and did a great job of open field tackling on the shorter routes.
 

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YoMick;1921848 said:
Its freakin ridiculous.... freakin mind blowing.... I still cant believe that we couldnt take advantage of that.... TWO YEARS IN A ROW

That is why a defense needs a good pass rush and the Giants had one in the second half against Dallas. And when Dallas did beat the pass rush Crayton either dropped the ball or quit on his route or there was a penalty.
 

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Doomsday101;1921852 said:
Chances are the Packer fans feel the same. I give the Giant secondary credit though. They were able defend the long ball for the most part and did a great job of open field tackling on the shorter routes.


Nah... we feel worse.... we went 3-3 against Giants and Packers.

We blew it!
 

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YoMick;1921878 said:
Nah... we feel worse.... we went 3-3 against Giants and Packers.

We blew it!

They had the underdog on the frozen tundra of Lambeau Field field and they beat the Giants like a drum in their 1st meeting 35 to 13 in NY. I don't think they feel any worse than we do. The Pack just like Dallas expected to win the game but didn't.
 

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DallasDomination;1921198 said:
How did this mediocre team get to the Sb?...I'm still baffled by this. They barely made it threw the regulr season and IMO got lucky to beat the Cowboys and needed bret favre to play like Eli Manning to win.

I couldn't disagree with you more. The Giants, when Eli plays the way he has in his last 4 games, are a very very good and solid team, along with being very well coached.

After starting 0-2 in the "post Tiki" and "Coughlin is a lame duck" era, they finished 10-4. They've won 9 straight road games, pretty amazing.

They can run the ball; They can stop the run; They have probably the best and certainly the most consistent pass rush in the NFC. They have a very deep set of WR's in Burress/Toomer/Smith, and Burress is a superstar that requires double-teaming just the way TO does.

Big difference...While TO was healthy and gangbusters most of the season, only to be injured and less effective when we needed him most, Burress struggled with injuries the first half of the season, along with his offense's struggles, but he's healthy at the right time.

NY also has a fine OL.

Besides looking at the fact that we personally beat them twice or looking at their overall record of 10-6, which by the way is now 13-6 compared to our overall 13-4, tell me just what is their weakness as a team right now? I'd love to hear it....I think they are currently playing as well as any team in the NFC did all season, including the Cowboys...that's why they are in the SB. They were fortunate to put it all together at the right time.

I'm anxious to see just how many NFL teams rest their starters next year instead of playing it out the way the Giants did, since they all point to that game with NE as the turning point when Eli and others got their confidence and things started to click consistently.

I know they are our rival in the NFC EAst, but trying to belittle their team seems silly to me. You can't point to how they played early in the season for evidence....they are 13-6 and playing like one of the better teams in the league...they beat us in our own house, and they simply dominated GB on offense, defense, and special teams from gun to gun.

NE is supposed to beat them. It wouldn't surprise anyone if NE beat them badly (of course that wouldn't be any surprise if we were able to hand pick an opponent for NE), but it wouldn't surprise me one bit if NY gives NE all they can handle and the game ends up with a similar score to the last time they met.

BTW, worst combo of teams in a SB was SB V, in my opinion...it was the worst played SB I've ever seen....The Blunder Bowl......................and the Cowboys lost.
 

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I don't know where they rank all time, but just looking at point differential dating back to 1996...

2007 Patriots + 315
1999 Rams + 284
1996 Packers + 246
2001 Rams + 230
1998 Broncos +192
1997 Broncos +185
2005 Seahawks +181
2004 Patrios + 177
2006 Bears + 172
2000 Ravens +168
1998 Falcons +153
2002 Bucs +150
2002 Raiders +146
1997 Packers +140
2005 Steelers +131
2004 Eagles + 126
2003 Patriots +110
1996 Patriots +105
2001 Patriots +99
2000 Giants +82
1999 Titans +68
2006 Colts +67
2007 Giants +22
2003 Panthes +21

As you can see, it's pretty rare for a Superbowl team to not score 100 points more than their opponents in a season. Almost unheard of for them to score less than 50. The only team in the Giants category are the 2003 Panthers, and they promptly fell off the face of the Earth the next year with a 7-9 record. I fully expect the Giants to do the same.
 

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That Giant Sucking Sound
by Steve Czaban (Skins fan)

Top 10 Reasons Why The Giants Winning Deeply Bothers Me
(Aside from the fact they are a fellow NFC East Rival).

1. They Suck
Yes, teams that suck, do make the Super Bowl. They then usually get killed. See Chargers v. 49ers. Giants v. Ravens. Falcons v. Broncos. Bears v. Colts. This is a team that got crushed by the Vikings at home this year. A team that got handled easily by the Commanders with a backup QB. I haven’t looked it up, but I think the Giants have the worst home field record of any SB entrant in history.

2. We Let Them Off The Mat
I am pounding the podium like Dennis Green on this. Week 3 at FedEx Field. Giants are getting roundly beaten, down 17 points in the 2nd half. Fraidy Gibbs lets them back in the game, with an overdose of running. Giants win.


3. Eli Manning Still Sucks
Go ahead, buy into the hype these two weeks about him “making a step up” and “turning the corner.” Whatever. For the season, Eli was a 56% passer with 20 INTs. Eli’s rating was below Kyle Boller, Damon Huard, and Brian Griese. Suck.

4. My Brother In Law, Todd
I love him, I really do. But he’s the “Brother In Law Who Knows Just Enough To Be Wildly Wrong” about football. He’s a “big” Giant fan, or so he says. Except there were times this year where he admitted, he didn’t see his team play on Sunday. Plus, he’s from Jersey. Egad.

5. Giant Fans Calling My Show In D.C.
I will get about 4,567 of these calls in the next two weeks. They will all be obnoxious.

6. Michael Strahan Has Been Rewarded
Nothing like a jerk, getting his way about doing less work, and then getting a trip to the Super Bowl. I can’t wait till every day during media week some chucklehead is getting Strahan to riff on how training camp is for suckas!

7. Luck
So you get a pulled hammy by Joey Galloway, a Mexico vacation by Tony Romo, a huge drop by Patrick Crayton, a bad cramp by Al Harris, and a horrible duck by Brett Favre in overtime. Click your heels three times, and open your eyes! You are in the Super Bowl!

8. Tom Coughlin Still Sucks
Let’s not get weepy eyed about the myth of his “good guy” conversion. All he did, was soften his act enough not to get fired. Luckily, he serves under the most conservative ownership in the NFL. This is the same guy who yells at kickers who miss 43 yard field goals by a foot in minus-6 degree weather.

9. Eli’s New Endorsements
You like that hopelessly lame Oreo Licking League spot? Get ready for more. Eli and Peyton will be endorsing no less than 39 different products by kickoff on February 3rd.

10. They’ll Let Me Down
Despite all of this, I would DEARLY love to see them stop the Patriots, so the rest of the country could sarcastically say: “Ohhhhh. Soooo close, Bill and Tom! Too bad! (Snark!)” But you know what? Ain’t gonna happen. So I refuse to invest any emotional stock in that possible outcome. Thanks for nothin’!

NOW, all that being said….. there IS one big fat silver lining in this win.

Tiki Barber.

Hey, Tie-Kie! Suck on it, and like it!

Let me go slowly on this, Tiki. “They went farther WITHOUT you…. Then they did WITH you. Get it? Maybe you, and your cancerous, me-first, self-glorifying attitude was actually part of the problem!”

Can’t wait to see you on the Today Show!
 

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DallasDomination;1921198 said:
How did this mediocre team get to the Sb?...I'm still baffled by this. They barely made it threw the regulr season and IMO got lucky to beat the Cowboys and needed bret favre to play like Eli Manning to win.

C'mon, give the Giants their due and their Mountain Dew, yahoo!

*The Giants stink so bad they rolled over the NFC east champ with the home-field advantage.

*They came ready to play. The Cowboys didn't.

*Their coach came in blowing fire through his nostrils. The Cowboys coach waddled in wearing a confused expression.

*They made the plays offensively (their handling of the clock and the dismantling of the Boys defense at the close of the first half was a thing of beauty. I hated it, but can look back now and admire that kind of focus) and defensively. The Cowboys, most of them pro bowlers had that false hope that they could come back. And didn't.

*The Giants came to Irving without distractions and with purpose. The Cowboys all but brought their press clippings to the sidelines and to the huddle.

*The Giants beat the Packers. Two or three times they could have given up to the cold, to the Packers to the fans. But they didn't.
They toughed it out.

Give them credit. If you don't it really just sounds like sour grapes.
 

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Good call on the 1979 St. Louis Rams. They had a +14 point differential, the lowest of any Superbowl participant. They also joined the 2007 Giants and 2003 Panthers as the only teams to play in the Superbowl with less than a +50 point differential.

With the Patriots having the greatest point differential of all time and the Giants just barely avoiding the 2nd all time lowest, I would have to say this is probably the most lopsided Superbowl matchup in history.
 

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InmanRoshi;1922067 said:
Good call on the 1979 St. Louis Rams. They had a +14 point differential, the lowest of any Superbowl participant. They also joined the 2007 Giants and 2003 Panthers as the only teams to play in the Superbowl with less than a +50 point differential.

With the Patriots having the greatest point differential of all time and the Giants just barely avoiding the 2nd all time lowest, I would have to say this is probably the most lopsided Superbowl matchup in history.

And yet when they squared off in the Regular Season is was an extremely competitive game.
 

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Doomsday101;1921211 said:
They won 10 games and started playing better football heading into the playoffs. I don't think they did anything special but they avoided penalties and turnovers in other words they did not do things to beat themselves and the Cowboys and Packers did not do enough to take the game from the Giants. Face it the Giants had a hard road to make it: at Tampa, at Dallas and at GB so they took on the 4th seed, the 1st seed and the 2nd seed and won on the road. They deserve to be there
The Giants played Parcells football and they're in the Super Bowl. Now ain't that a kick in the butt?
 

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bbgun;1921989 said:
Yes, teams that suck, do make the Super Bowl. They then usually get killed. See Chargers v. 49ers. Giants v. Ravens. Falcons v. Broncos. Bears v. Colts.


I gave up alot of points on that SB... took the 49ers... thats how much I thought of the Chargers back then. I made $2,500 giving up 18pts or so.. whatever the spread was back then. I was sweating when San Diego was going for the TD late in the game :D
 
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DallasDomination;1921198 said:
How did this mediocre team get to the Sb?...I'm still baffled by this. They barely made it threw the regulr season and IMO got lucky to beat the Cowboys and needed bret favre to play like Eli Manning to win.

They kicked our *** when it mattered
 

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DallasDomination;1921198 said:
How did this mediocre team get to the Sb?....

By walking into Texas Stadium and handing us our @$$es. They did the smart thing this season down the stretch. Didn't rely on Eli to win the games. Defense and running the ball
 

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I'll root for the Giants on SB sunday.
Imagine them winning and Tiki not getting a sniff of that ring.
That would ease the pain substantially.
 

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DallasDomination;1921198 said:
How did this mediocre team get to the Sb?...I'm still baffled by this. They barely made it threw the regulr season and IMO got lucky to beat the Cowboys and needed bret favre to play like Eli Manning to win.

Uh, by beating us.
 
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