Giants worst Sb team ever

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Sarge;1921271 said:
The Giants aren't nearly as bad as many are "wishing" them to be. They finished the year playing well coached, well disciplined, mistake-free football . . . the same cannot be said for Dallas or GB.

Am I glad they are there? Of course not..........do they deserve to be there........well..............ya they do.

Amen to that....I hate them Giants...but they are doing what we could not do...

Playing SMART..and mistake free...

I think Eli is a tool....however he is playing great right now...and much smarter...I thought we would own them because he would make stupid mistakes and we would capitalize on them...

They are not a bad team...I still hate em...

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DallasDomination;1921198 said:
How did this mediocre team get to the Sb?...I'm still baffled by this. They barely made it threw the regulr season and IMO got lucky to beat the Cowboys and needed bret favre to play like Eli Manning to win.

How did they get to the SB? By beating two 13-3 teams on the road. If Dallas and Green Bay can't beat a wild card team at home, then how would anybody think they would have a chance in the SB?
 

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mickgreen58;1921485 said:
This thread reeks of jealousy, envy and bitterness.

If indeed the 2007 New York Giants are the worst Super Bowl team in history, what exactly does that say about the 2007 Dallas Cowboys.

Also, for the individuals throwing venom the 1985 New England Patriots' way, the 1985 Bears would have destroyed any team they faced in the Super Bowl. I think one must take that into consideration when looking at the 86 Super Bowl in hindsight.

To add, instead of sending such venom and vitriol the Giants' way, folks need to direct their misplaced anger towards Valley Ranch and the no heart Dallas Cowboys.

one of the best posts i've ever read on here.
 

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The Giants aren't that good. They had two things going for them in the playoffs. 1) They didn't make the mistakes their opponents made (especially us) 2) They got a bit lucky at times. Our recievers couldn't hold onto the ball and Brett Favre returned to his old ways. Do they deserve to be there? Of course. They won 3 road games to do it. Are they the best representative for the NFC? Clearly a no. IF we played that team 10 times, we'd win 7 or 8. The problem is, in the playoffs you only have to beat each team one time. We should have played like we realize this.
 

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Star4Ever;1922506 said:
The Giants aren't that good. They had two things going for them in the playoffs. 1) They didn't make the mistakes their opponents made (especially us) 2) They got a bit lucky at times.

They got a big break with the weather in Green Bay. Bad weather is the ultimate talent neutralizer. It's weird to say that Green Bay isn't a good cold weather team, but they're really not. Giants are much better suited for those kind of games with a 6'5" WR with great body control who can just go up and get a ball fluttering in the wind as opposed to the Packers game that's based on spreading the field with smaller WR's running precision routes.
 

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I'm really confused... How can anyone say that the Giants are not the best team in the NFC... My points:

- They beat us. It doesn't matter how or what other fantasy scenarios that you can come up with. They beat us!
- They beat the Packers in Lambeau. You can't say that Favre had a bad day, you can only say that the Giants game plan caused Favre to have a bad day.
- They have one 10 road games in a row including 3 playoff games.
- Bill Belicheck said in his press conference the other day that the Giants were the toughest team they played this year (Not Dallas).
- They have played mistake free football so far in the playoffs.
- They have come together as a team at the right time (Unlike us)
- They have been the underdogs throughout the playoffs and didn't take any of the games lightly.

I can list a hundred more points but it would be worthless because our fans would rather continue putting our team on a pedestal instead of giving props to the Giants. I am mad as hell that we lost. But instead of taking it out on the Giants, I choose to take it out on my Cowboys.
We have to stop saying we dominated them in the playoff game. We were out coached and out played that is why we lost. The rest is just statistics. Which as we all know now, is meaningless if you don't win.
 

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Doomsday101;1921211 said:
They won 10 games and started playing better football heading into the playoffs. I don't think they did anything special but they avoided penalties and turnovers in other words they did not do things to beat themselves and the Cowboys and Packers did not do enough to take the game from the Giants. Face it the Giants had a hard road to make it: at Tampa, at Dallas and at GB so they took on the 4th seed, the 1st seed and the 2nd seed and won on the road. They deserve to be there

Yep ...
 

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bbgun;1921989 said:
That Giant Sucking Sound
by Steve Czaban (Skins fan)

Top 10 Reasons Why The Giants Winning Deeply Bothers Me
(Aside from the fact they are a fellow NFC East Rival).

1. They Suck
Yes, teams that suck, do make the Super Bowl. They then usually get killed. See Chargers v. 49ers. Giants v. Ravens. Falcons v. Broncos. Bears v. Colts. This is a team that got crushed by the Vikings at home this year. A team that got handled easily by the Commanders with a backup QB. I haven’t looked it up, but I think the Giants have the worst home field record of any SB entrant in history.

2. We Let Them Off The Mat
I am pounding the podium like Dennis Green on this. Week 3 at FedEx Field. Giants are getting roundly beaten, down 17 points in the 2nd half. Fraidy Gibbs lets them back in the game, with an overdose of running. Giants win.


3. Eli Manning Still Sucks
Go ahead, buy into the hype these two weeks about him “making a step up” and “turning the corner.” Whatever. For the season, Eli was a 56% passer with 20 INTs. Eli’s rating was below Kyle Boller, Damon Huard, and Brian Griese. Suck.

4. My Brother In Law, Todd
I love him, I really do. But he’s the “Brother In Law Who Knows Just Enough To Be Wildly Wrong” about football. He’s a “big” Giant fan, or so he says. Except there were times this year where he admitted, he didn’t see his team play on Sunday. Plus, he’s from Jersey. Egad.

5. Giant Fans Calling My Show In D.C.
I will get about 4,567 of these calls in the next two weeks. They will all be obnoxious.

6. Michael Strahan Has Been Rewarded
Nothing like a jerk, getting his way about doing less work, and then getting a trip to the Super Bowl. I can’t wait till every day during media week some chucklehead is getting Strahan to riff on how training camp is for suckas!

7. Luck
So you get a pulled hammy by Joey Galloway, a Mexico vacation by Tony Romo, a huge drop by Patrick Crayton, a bad cramp by Al Harris, and a horrible duck by Brett Favre in overtime. Click your heels three times, and open your eyes! You are in the Super Bowl!

8. Tom Coughlin Still Sucks
Let’s not get weepy eyed about the myth of his “good guy” conversion. All he did, was soften his act enough not to get fired. Luckily, he serves under the most conservative ownership in the NFL. This is the same guy who yells at kickers who miss 43 yard field goals by a foot in minus-6 degree weather.

9. Eli’s New Endorsements
You like that hopelessly lame Oreo Licking League spot? Get ready for more. Eli and Peyton will be endorsing no less than 39 different products by kickoff on February 3rd.

10. They’ll Let Me Down
Despite all of this, I would DEARLY love to see them stop the Patriots, so the rest of the country could sarcastically say: “Ohhhhh. Soooo close, Bill and Tom! Too bad! (Snark!)” But you know what? Ain’t gonna happen. So I refuse to invest any emotional stock in that possible outcome. Thanks for nothin’!

Could be worse..it could be the Commanders in the Super Bowl! :p:
 

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MarkP88;1921278 said:
Are you high?

They went to Tampa and won.
They went to Dallas and won.
They went to Green Bay and won.

And accomplished all this with a banged-up group. That's not mediocre. That's not luck.

Let's give them their due. We'll get another shot at them next year.

Mark P
How dare you come on to this forum making sense in just your second post? Don't you know that every team but Dallas sucks and the refs cheat for every team but Dallas and the NFL has a bias against Dallas? And you never, ever give another team props for anything. Damn the nerve of some people.
 

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CowboyFanatic13;1923028 said:
I'm really confused... How can anyone say that the Giants are not the best team in the NFC... My points:

"- They beat us. It doesn't matter how or what other fantasy scenarios that you can come up with. They beat us!
- They beat the Packers in Lambeau. You can't say that Favre had a bad day, you can only say that the Giants game plan caused Favre to have a bad day.
- They have one 10 road games in a row including 3 playoff games.
- Bill Belicheck said in his press conference the other day that the Giants were the toughest team they played this year (Not Dallas).
- They have played mistake free football so far in the playoffs.
- They have come together as a team at the right time (Unlike us)
- They have been the underdogs throughout the playoffs and didn't take any of the games lightly."

I didn't say they weren't playing better than us at the time, but they are not a better team than us. Yea, they beat us, but we beat them TWICE. Both times by double digits. When they beat us, we outgained them by over 100 yards, held the ball 13 more minutes, and gained quite a bit more first downs. The difference was our own mistakes. Stupid penalties at the most inopportune times, dropped passes for TDs and first downs, etc. I will definitely give you this. The Giant's kick coverage team was much better than ours. That's the only place I give them an edge. Facts are facts.
 

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CowboyFanatic13;1923028 said:
I'm really confused... How can anyone say that the Giants are not the best team in the NFC... My points:

"- They beat us. It doesn't matter how or what other fantasy scenarios that you can come up with. They beat us!
- They beat the Packers in Lambeau. You can't say that Favre had a bad day, you can only say that the Giants game plan caused Favre to have a bad day.
- They have one 10 road games in a row including 3 playoff games.
- Bill Belicheck said in his press conference the other day that the Giants were the toughest team they played this year (Not Dallas).
- They have played mistake free football so far in the playoffs.
- They have come together as a team at the right time (Unlike us)
- They have been the underdogs throughout the playoffs and didn't take any of the games lightly."

I didn't say they weren't playing better than us at the time, but they are not a better team than us. Yea, they beat us, but we beat them TWICE. Both times by double digits. When they beat us, we outgained them by over 100 yards, held the ball 13 more minutes, and gained quite a bit more first downs. The difference was our own mistakes. Stupid penalties at the most inopportune times, dropped passes for TDs and first downs, etc. I will definitely give you this. The Giant's kick coverage team was much better than ours. That's the only place I give them an edge. Facts are facts.
My point is that it doesn't matter what happened during the season and what the stats were during the playoff game.
You have to give them credit for:
- how they wore down our offensive line
- How they made the needed adjustments
- How they forced us to make mistakes
- How they didn't get stupid penalties
- how they made the most of the time they had the ball.
- How they scored just before the half and how they used that momentum during the rest of the game.
The bottom line is that they were better than us and the only ones to blame is our team. They did not step up when they needed to. That is the definition of a champion, not the amount of time you have the ball or what your rushing stats are. They shut us down when they needed to.

I for one give the credit to the Giants and hope they beat the Pats in the SB.
 
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