Glenn on Johnson

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eduncan22;1606758 said:
Henry too slow?

The 'Boys spent $25 million on Henry.

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If you're spending $25 million on a fast 40 time, you're the laughing stock of the league.
 

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burmafrd;1606028 said:
Show some FLEXIBILITY people- that is supposed to be the NEW COACHES trademark- do not force the players into the system, use the players as their strengths and weaknesses warrant.



Hmmm.....Somehow, someway, I don't know how but this reeks of "nimble footed" Jethro:eek:: , maybe it's just his aura on the franchise! This kind of unimaginative football happens year after year, coach after coach in this post superbowl era of the Jethro:eek:: boys. Get used to it!

:storm:

No disclaimer needed! But I wish it were!;)
 

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I have noticed several columnists making the same point about Glenn on Johnson. Henry would have been the better guy with his size. If Henry is indeed our #2 CB, then when the #1 is out put HIM on the #1 WR. What we had was our #3 CB on their #1 WR. If our coaches are supposedly so much better this year, then they should be able to keep this mismatch from happening. There are not that many really Big WRs in the league- so it should not be that hard to make SURE that our SMALLEST CB is NOT on a really big WR.
 

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burmy baby...do you even understand why corners play sides of the field, instead of man up most of the time? Let me offer you a few reasons why it would be foolish to move Henry around based on the matchups.

1.) Henry is used to playing his side. He's used to breaking a certain way and the sideline being in a certain place. That familiarity is very valuable. You put him on the opposite side, when he hasn't been there all year, it's probably going to be bad.

2.) Henry may not know the assigments for that side. He could confuse his zone call, he could be unsure on whether on the current call he has safety help overtop, or he's alone.

Either way, this is what most NFL teams do, and this is what we do, and have done. It's about time to get used to it, hon.
 

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Well, HON, I would think that a vet like Henry would be a little more able to adapt then you credit him for. Bottom line to me is you do not put Glenn on a guy like Johnson. There SHOULD be a way to AVOID such an obvious MIS MATCH.
"this is what we do, and have done"
Well that is a great justification.
 

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burmafrd;1607269 said:
Well, HON, I would think that a vet like Henry would be a little more able to adapt then you credit him for. Bottom line to me is you do not put Glenn on a guy like Johnson. There SHOULD be a way to AVOID such an obvious MIS MATCH.
"this is what we do, and have done"
Well that is a great justification.

It is a great justification.

It's just unfortunate that you can't understand why that is. Oh well, I tried to explain it to you.
 

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This is so easy to solve, especially when height is the biggest factor in corner play.......Chris Canty is 6'7".....
 

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StanleySpadowski;1607274 said:
This is so easy to solve, especially when height is the biggest factor in corner play.......Chris Canty is 6'7".....

:lmao2:

Can't believe burm hasn't figured it out yet.

Oh wait... yes I can.
 

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Mismatches occur every sunday and it is not just against the Cowboys......we have to adjust.
 

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There is a way to avoid this mismatch. Politely ask Andre Johnson to not be so big and so fast and so good.

Glenn got beat. I thought he played poorly on that play. It had nothing to do with his height. Perhaps it was the call that kept Glenn off the line. Whatever, Glenn just provided Johnson too much cushion, which made it a pretty easy pitch and catch.

Glenn has played very well against Plaxico Burress. Glenn is the trusted veteran whose job is to replace the starters and be the 3rd CB. He as his job to do and there is nothing at this point that is going to change that. Dallas will have to count on him to cover guys like Johnson from time to time. It is football. Some teams have more than one receiver that is tall. Glenn will have to cover some of them.
 

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joseephuss;1607291 said:
There is a way to avoid this mismatch. Politely ask Andre Johnson to not be so big and so fast and so good.

Glenn got beat. I thought he played poorly on that play. It had nothing to do with his height. Perhaps it was the call that kept Glenn off the line. Whatever, Glenn just provided Johnson too much cushion, which made it a pretty easy pitch and catch.

Glenn has played very well against Plaxico Burress. Glenn is the trusted veteran whose job is to replace the starters and be the 3rd CB. He as his job to do and there is nothing at this point that is going to change that. Dallas will have to count on him to cover guys like Johnson from time to time. It is football. Some teams have more than one receiver that is tall. Glenn will have to cover some of them.


I watched the replay and thought there might be a chance the safety was supposed to jump into that zone. Sometimes teams play the CB off like that inviting that throw cuz they know they'll have the safety jumping that route/zone.

It is strange seeing Glenn get beat on that route cuz that's usually his favorite route to jump. I can't think of any other reason why a veteran would give that much room in that situation then if he thought someone was gonna be there to help out.
 

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Rack;1607292 said:
I watched the replay and thought there might be a chance the safety was supposed to jump into that zone. Sometimes teams play the CB off like that inviting that throw cuz they know they'll have the safety jumping that route/zone.

It is strange seeing Glenn get beat on that route cuz that's usually his favorite route to jump. I can't think of any other reason why a veteran would give that much room in that situation then if he thought someone was gonna be there to help out.

Good points.
 

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burmafrd;1607259 said:
I have noticed several columnists making the same point about Glenn on Johnson. Henry would have been the better guy with his size. If Henry is indeed our #2 CB, then when the #1 is out put HIM on the #1 WR. What we had was our #3 CB on their #1 WR. If our coaches are supposedly so much better this year, then they should be able to keep this mismatch from happening. There are not that many really Big WRs in the league- so it should not be that hard to make SURE that our SMALLEST CB is NOT on a really big WR.
Oh my gosh. You can fill volumes on football with what Columnists don't know. These are the same mouth breathers who can't realize Bob Hayes is a Hall of Famer because he completely changed the way the game of football is played.

It's real easy to figure out, even for Columnists though I hold little hope of this for them. Anthony Henry plays RCB. The only time he will be on the left side of the defensive field is if his assigned WR goes in motion and he is in man coverage and has to go with him.

Plugging him in on one WR is ridiculous and not just because he doesn't play LCB. There is such a thing as Zone Coverage and playing within your assigned Zone. Ironically created to stop the aforementioned Bob Hayes.

The entire defensive scheme should be changed so that you get one particular CB lined up against one particular WR? What happens when that WR takes his route out of said CBs assigned Zone? Go with him because you're the big guy? You think OCs won't recongize this and rotate a back or TE into the abondoned Zone and exploit it?

You never answered my Darrell Green question.
 

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Just wondering. This arugment is about NOT allowing mismatches to happen....ok........Henry on Johnson ISN'T a mismatch?????
 

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eduncan22;1606308 said:
Glenn has never been a 'shutdown' corner.

'Lots of teams love to match him with their primo WR.



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Seems logical that you can figure out a way to make sure your SMALLEST CB is not trying to cover the BIGGEST WR the other team has.
 

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I guess we might as well forfeit the game if we face a team with two WR's over 6 feet. Who is Glenn going to cover?


And expect the CB's to play off this year. Also, expect them to give up a lot of slants, because they are protecting the deep sideline and funneling the WR's the inside. That's the drawback of playing in an "aggressive" defense.
 

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InmanRoshi;1607500 said:
I guess we might as well forfeit the game if we face a team with two WR's over 6 feet. Who is Glenn going to cover?


And expect the CB's to play off this year. Also, expect them to give up a lot of slants, because they are protecting the deep sideline and funneling the WR's the inside. That's the drawback of playing in an "aggressive" defense.

I believe you are right on that.

I would much rather force the deep fade throw that close to the endzone. It is a tougher throw and catch than the slant. Of course since Johnson is so much bigger than Glenn it probably would have been successful, too.
 

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burmafrd;1607487 said:
Seems logical that you can figure out a way to make sure your SMALLEST CB is not trying to cover the BIGGEST WR the other team has.
All pre-season and into the season you train these guys to protect their Zone and you make them so familiar with their assignments that they can run them with their eyes closed if they have to.

Suddenly you want to take them out of that comfort area and put them somewhere else where they are as familiar and you expect better results?

You're living in a fantasy world, and you still haven't addressed the Darrell Green question.
 
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