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Darrell Green was a great CB. Glenn is not. Is that clear enough, Hoss?
Newman can play on Johnson because he is elite. henry can because he is big enough. Glenn is neither elite or big enough.
 

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burmafrd;1607570 said:
Darrell Green was a great CB. Glenn is not. Is that clear enough, Hoss?
Newman can play on Johnson because he is elite. henry can because he is big enough. Glenn is neither elite or big enough.
lol

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I'm sorry we don't have 5 Terrence Newman's at CB. Once you get there I'm sure this will all be solved. Before you cash a paycheck you might want to study Zone Defenses and assignments. I have a feeling you're going to be behind the curve there. Call it a hunch.

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Bull Frog;1606059 said:
Most of them were quick slants and outs. He only had 39 yards receiving. Glenn was giving him a big cushion so everything was underneath.

We were not playing man coverage and you are correct, Glenn was playing far off.

If a team elects to throw those types of passes, they can play pitch and catch all game long until there is an adjustment made. We simply didn't bother to adjust.

It wouldn't have mattered if Aaron Glenn, Anthony Henry or Terence Newman were matched up on Andre Johnson. The scheme did not compensate for the manner in which the Texans chose to attack us. But somehow, it is now Glenn's problem because he is "too short"?
 

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Alexander;1607580 said:
We were not playing man coverage and you are correct, Glenn was playing far off.

If a team elects to throw those types of passes, they can play pitch and catch all game long until there is an adjustment made. We simply didn't bother to adjust.

It wouldn't have mattered if Aaron Glenn, Anthony Henry or Terence Newman were matched up on Andre Johnson. The scheme did not compensate for the manner in which the Texans chose to attack us. But somehow, it is now Glenn's problem because he is "too short"?
Best post in the thread.

100% right on the :money:
 

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Hostile;1607574 said:
I'm sorry we don't have 5 Terrence Newman's at CB.

Newman playing that far off would have had the very same results. But I am certain graduates of the eduncan school of secondary education would disagree.
 

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Alexander;1607586 said:
Newman playing that far off would have had the very same results. But I am certain graduates of the eduncan school of secondary education would disagree.

I agree. The only way I could see that play being stopped is had a LB dropped into the rout with Glenn over the top. Given the defense we were in and the size and strenght of Andre Johnson we were not going to stop him regardless if Newman was playing or not.
 

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Alexander;1607586 said:
Newman playing that far off would have had the very same results. But I am certain graduates of the eduncan school of secondary education would disagree.
No matter how many times Zone Coverage is explained, people still don't understand it. I didn't see the game but if the cushion you are describing was present I'd agree with you on making an adjustment. Aaron Glenn's height just doens't have anything to do with coverage and the "Mismatch" scenario was ridiculous. I focused on that aspect because I didn't get to see the game.
 

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Hostile;1607591 said:
Aaron Glenn's height just doens't have anything to do with coverage and the "Mismatch" scenario was ridiculous.

Apparently the sting of Glenn being abused by one of the better WRs in the NFC in Roy Williams is still sticking in the proverbial craw. Now he cannot play, is ripe for the dreaded "mismatch" and so on.

This was nothing like it. Nothing.
 

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Alexander;1607598 said:
Apparently the sting of Glenn being abused by one of the better WRs in the NFC in Roy Williams is still sticking in the proverbial craw. Now he cannot play, is ripe for the dreaded "mismatch" and so on.

This was nothing like it. Nothing.
I should be past being amazed by these premature evaluations, but I'm not. I'm one of the folks who would like to upgrade CB, but do it the right way. I'd like to draft a CB on day 1 next year and let him either be the 3rd CB or move Henry to 3rd CB. I'd love it if he was big and fast. But I'm not foolish enough to think just because he's bigger we're better off than with a wily vet like Glenn.
 

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Hostile;1607639 said:
I should be past being amazed by these premature evaluations, but I'm not. I'm one of the folks who would like to upgrade CB, but do it the right way. I'd like to draft a CB on day 1 next year and let him either be the 3rd CB or move Henry to 3rd CB. I'd love it if he was big and fast. But I'm not foolish enough to think just because he's bigger we're better off than with a wily vet like Glenn.


Are you starting to see the light? :rolleyes:

I've been saying the same thing...only since last year.
 

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eduncan22;1607653 said:
Are you starting to see the light? :rolleyes:

I've been saying the same thing...only since last year.
You've got the wrong person. While I don't agree with your assessments of Glenn and Henry and the foolish film clips where you can't defend Zone coverage assignments, I have always wanted to address 2 positions on this team because of age concerns. They are OT (hopefully accomplished), WR, and CB. However, I did not want CB high in the 2007 Draft. Mostly because I have a very deep seated bias towards Antoine Cason in the 2008 Draft given the fact I am an unabashed Arizona Wildcats homer.

For 2007, and even beyond, I can live with what we have if other areas are addressed and the scheme attacks the QBs more.

By all means let me know when you can accept the fact that you don't understand Zone Coverage. That will be the equivalent of seeing the light.
 

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Hostile;1607673 said:
While I don't agree with your assessments of Glenn and Henry and the foolish film clips where you can't defend Zone coverage assignments,

By all means let me know when you can accept the fact that you don't understand Zone Coverage. That will be the equivalent of seeing the light.
:laugh2: :laugh2: :laugh2:

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Faerluna;1606031 said:
Didn't Glenn successfully cover Plaxico Burress, who is 6'5, a few years ago?

Just saying.
yes he did.
 

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Hostile;1607673 said:
By all means let me know when you can accept the fact that you don't understand Zone Coverage. That will be the equivalent of seeing the light.


:lmao2::lmao2::lmao2::lmao2:
 

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Zone defense

Man coverage

Cover 2

Cover 3...

Doesn't matter what you play with these corners...

None of them are worth a darn.
 

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Hostile;1607673 said:
You've got the wrong person. While I don't agree with your assessments of Glenn and Henry and the foolish film clips where you can't defend Zone coverage assignments

By all means let me know when you can accept the fact that you don't understand Zone Coverage. That will be the equivalent of seeing the light.

What about the assessment of Stanback ?

eduncan22;1607798 said:
Zone defense

Man coverage

Cover 2

Cover 3...

Doesn't matter what you play with these corners...

None of them are worth a darn.


Translation: I have no idea the difference therefore I won't address them.

http://cowboyszone.com/forums/showpo...5&postcount=74
 

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JPM;1607816 said:
What about the assessment of Stanback ?
I hear he only runs a 4.58 time in the 40.




JPM said:
Translation: I have no idea the difference therefore I won't address them.
JPM said:
That's exactly what it means. Evidenced by the fact he doesn't know what containment anyone is supposed to play is. No matter how many times he's been told Keith Davis on that one clip he's posted 2000 times he still blames Henry.
 

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eduncan22;1607798 said:
Zone defense

Man coverage

Cover 2

Cover 3...

Doesn't matter what you play with these corners...

None of them are worth a darn.
Eduncan, you seem to have a large repository of videos to choose from. Here's an idea...

1. Pick any other team which has a 3-4 defense (Pittsburgh, San Diego, etc.).
2. Select a redzone situation similar to the Andre Johnson/Aaron Glenn matchup.
3. Isolate your video on that team's matchup of its no. 3 cornerback on the offense's no. 1 wide receiver of comparable height and skills as Andre Johnson. Scratch that. Isolate your video on ANY cornerback matched up in that same situation. Be sure that your vid has the cornerback giving a similar buffer zone on his man also.

Post what you find on the forum. I'm certain that we would all like to see how well the cornerback fared in that particular scenario. Thanks.

This has been a Colonial directive signed by Admiral Adama himself, so hop to it soldier!
 
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