Gmoat

[SLATEmosphere]

2nd Round-Maurkice Pouncey C-OG
I hate trading down, but I like this idea more and more. We will pick up a high 2nd, 3rd and 5th for our 1st. The prospects in round 2-3 this year is loaded. I just don't like any of the guys that are probably going to be left at 27. Pouncey is this years Unger. We were interested in a C/OG last year, we'll be interested again. Finally some quality depth and versitility. BYE PROCTOR.

2nd Round(our pick)-Dexter McCluster-RB/WR/KR
I honestly think Barber is getting released. Maybe its just wishful thinking. I want to see a Felix-Choice tandem. With Barber gone you fill that RB spot with McCluster. Not only can he play RB but you can do alot of things with him. Percy Harvin and Chris Johnson wrapped into one. Dexter is a speedy playmaker that we need on offense with Austin and Felix. Possiblities are endless with him. Barber needs to be gone to do this though.

3rd Round(from trade)-Javier Arenas-CB/PR
I know we have Newman,Jenkins and Scandrick but you can never have enough corners and Newman has 2 years left MAX. Arenas is a great punt returner so there's versitility there. He wont just take up a 4th CB spot. He plays great press man coverage. Something this defense needs with a great pass rush.

3rd Round- Ciron Black-RT
I like this value and think Ciron is prototype RT. He can backup Columbo and eventually take over. RT's are usually big maulers. Give him a year to learn behind Colombo. Free with play LT with Flo possibly let go or retired. Ciron could also play LT in a pinch.

4th Round-Torell Troup-DT-USF
Backup for Rat. Could play DE also. Siavii was decent but an upgrade could be used. Good run stopper.

5th Round(from trade)-Robert Johnson-FS-Utah
This depends on what we do with Hamlin and Sensabaugh. We need a playmaking safety and Robert has good production in that category. I know Wade doesnt play rooks, but he can learn a year under a vet and then become a starter in the near future.

6th round-Leigh Tiffin-K-Bama
Yes a kicker. Best in the country. Why not take a chance. Our kicking situation could lose us a few games as is.

7th Round-Pat Angerer-ILB-Iowa
Value pick. He needs to ad a few past but is pretty quick for his size. Strictly a project where he can learn for a few years. Ranked top 5 in tackles this year with 135.

I'm sure we wont use all those picks. I could see us trading that 5th pick we got in a trade around but I didnt want to make it to complicated and unrealistic.

 

[The Realist]

What's a Gmoat?

 

[KingintheNorth]

What's a Gmoat?

greatest mock of all time

 

[AustnIsMySaviour]

perfect draft, but instead of the 3rd a guy like Carrington would be ideal instead of Arenas, especially since mccluster can take pr duties. Or another CB like Owusu or something. Or perhaps w/ our 1st 2nd draft a guy like N. Allen or Iupati if he falls.

 

[MarionBarberThe4th]

Shut me up w/ that last line

 

[28 Joker]

That running back from Ole Miss can FLYYYY.

He can fly.

Fast.

Very fast.

Lightning fast.

He gets faster as he runs away from you.

 

[28 Joker]

Eric Berry is the best player in this draft.

He's going to the Hall of Fame.

If he stays healthy, he's going.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

I like it

although everyone is high on Robert Johnson, I am not, he's Ken Hamlin part 2, a slow safety with limited range

no thanks

 

[dillinger319]

:mchammer: I love it... Someone send Jerry a note and ask him to do whatever it takes to make this happen.... lol

 

[AustnIsMySaviour]

I like it

although everyone is high on Robert Johnson, I am not, he's Ken Hamlin part 2, a slow safety with limited range

no thanks

good thing you aint the GM big guy

 

[Bob Sacamano]

good thing you aint the GM big guy

****ing weak response

this doesn't sound like Ken Hamlin?

Read & React: Takes proper angles on receivers coming over the middle or track down backs from behind. Good range in the back half due to his length and straight-line speed, but is not always there to help on deep throws. Also a slow step to react to misdirection and will overrun plays.


Man Coverage: Struggles in man coverage. He lacks the change-of-direction skills to stay with receivers with above-average agility or route-running ability. High and slow in backpedal. Does not have the fluid hips to transition.


Zone Coverage: Typical centerfielder, able to attack the ball when the play is in front of him or to his side. Will go shoulder-first to lay out receivers coming into his area. Has the height, length and vertical leap to get after jump balls in the end zone or break up high passes over the middle. Fast enough to trail receivers coming through his area and break up passes.


Closing/Recovery: Flies downhill to attack ballcarriers, but needs work recovering and tracking the ball when players get behind him. Has a burst to the ball when throws are made over the middle in cover-two. Able to read the quarterback's eyes and jump deep sideline routes when not playing off the line of scrimmage. Once beaten, he lacks the immediate acceleration to recover.


Run Support: Aggressive coming up against the run, able to cut or wrap up ballcarriers in space with his length. Ducks his head at times when trying to tackle in the flat. Not strong enough to take on and shed blocks inside the box.


Tackling: Long arms make it difficult for ballcarriers to escape his grasp, but he is not an explosive tackler. Will miss in the open field because he lacks great change-of-direction skills, and also tries to lay a shoulder instead of wrapping up. Offensive linemen can manhandle him when attacks at the second level because of his lack of strength.


Intangibles: Had a tough upbringing in South Central Los Angeles, and his father was murdered when Johnson was very young. Popular among his teammates and has an excellent work ethic.

 

[AustnIsMySaviour]

****ing weak response

this doesn't sound like Ken Hamlin?

Read & React: Takes proper angles on receivers coming over the middle or track down backs from behind. Good range in the back half due to his length and straight-line speed, but is not always there to help on deep throws. Also a slow step to react to misdirection and will overrun plays.


Man Coverage: Struggles in man coverage. He lacks the change-of-direction skills to stay with receivers with above-average agility or route-running ability. High and slow in backpedal. Does not have the fluid hips to transition.


a ****ing weak response is all that you deserve after a stupid post like that.

Zone Coverage: Typical centerfielder, able to attack the ball when the play is in front of him or to his side. Will go shoulder-first to lay out receivers coming into his area. Has the height, length and vertical leap to get after jump balls in the end zone or break up high passes over the middle. Fast enough to trail receivers coming through his area and break up passes.


Closing/Recovery: Flies downhill to attack ballcarriers, but needs work recovering and tracking the ball when players get behind him. Has a burst to the ball when throws are made over the middle in cover-two. Able to read the quarterback's eyes and jump deep sideline routes when not playing off the line of scrimmage. Once beaten, he lacks the immediate acceleration to recover.


Run Support: Aggressive coming up against the run, able to cut or wrap up ballcarriers in space with his length. Ducks his head at times when trying to tackle in the flat. Not strong enough to take on and shed blocks inside the box.


Tackling: Long arms make it difficult for ballcarriers to escape his grasp, but he is not an explosive tackler. Will miss in the open field because he lacks great change-of-direction skills, and also tries to lay a shoulder instead of wrapping up. Offensive linemen can manhandle him when attacks at the second level because of his lack of strength.


Intangibles: Had a tough upbringing in South Central Los Angeles, and his father was murdered when Johnson was very young. Popular among his teammates and has an excellent work ethic.

a ****ing weak response is all that you deserve after a stupid post like that. Posters like you crack me up, see a couple scouting reports and think that your a GM. Your saying that like Hamlins a plague to the defense, whens the last time hamlin got beat deep? He doesnt get all the picks and the flashy numbers that he should have but he very well should. He does whats expected of a FS and thats prevent the deep ball. Sure he could be repalced, but FIO buddy. So stop jumping on the bandwagon and knocking Hamlin. Second, if Johnson there in the 5th and you don't think Jones should pull the trigger, you're an IDIOT. He's a playmaker and great value in the 5th. He could learn behind Hamlin then replace him when Wade sees him fit. What a joke.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

a ****ing weak response is all that you deserve after a stupid post like that. Posters like you crack me up, see a couple scouting reports and think that your a GM. Your saying that like Hamlins a plague to the defense, whens the last time hamlin got beat deep? He doesnt get all the picks and the flashy numbers that he should have but he very well should. He does whats expected of a FS and thats prevent the deep ball. Sure he could be repalced, but FIO buddy. So stop jumping on the bandwagon and knocking Hamlin. Second, if Johnson there in the 5th and you don't think Jones should pull the trigger, you're an IDIOT. He's a playmaker and great value in the 5th. He could learn behind Hamlin then replace him when Wade sees him fit. What a joke.

1st off, I was among the 1st persons, if not THE 1st person to turn on Hamlin.

2nd of all, Hamlin only has the range to patrol the deep secondary, when he's asked to provide support, he's slow getting there, and his tackling is atrocious, such as leading with his shoulder. He also takes terrible angles.

I don't think I'm a GM, and don't pretend to be one. I'm not able to watch every, single game of every, single player so I fall back on people who actually do, and get paid to do it. Every year people think that Jones should pull the trigger on a player, and most often times, he never does, so calling me ignorant for not believing, or wanting, Dallas to take a player is stupid.

And not everyone has Robert Johnson pegged in the 5th round. He's ranked 28th among safeties by Scott Wright on NFLDraftCountdown.

 

[AustnIsMySaviour]

1st off, I was among the 1st persons, if not THE 1st person to turn on Hamlin.

2nd of all, Hamlin only has the range to patrol the deep secondary, when he's asked to provide support, he's slow getting there, and his tackling is atrocious, such as leading with his shoulder. He also takes terrible angles.

I don't think I'm a GM, and don't pretend to be one. I'm not able to watch every, single game of every, single player so I fall back on people who actually do, and get paid to do it. Every year people think that Jones should pull the trigger on a player, and most often times, he never does, so calling me ignorant for not believing, or wanting, Dallas to take a player is stupid.

And not everyone has Robert Johnson pegged in the 5th round. He's ranked 28th among safeties by Scott Wright on NFLDraftCountdown.

he's also ranked 11th by Walter Football, Sideline Scouting, 13th by Draft Nasty, and 9th by Nfl Draft Scout, so whats your point ?

I never argued the fact that Hamlin was good in run support, I'm stating that he does do a good job in preventing the deep ball, and thats what hes asked to do almost every play, its his main responsibility and he does do it very well. Everyone knows hes below par in run support.

and im not necessarily calling you ignorant for not wanting Dallas to select the player or want him for that matter, im calling you ignorant for denying the fact that he'd be good value in the 5th. There's nothing to lose. But hey, your opinion.

and btw if anything Johnson is the definition of a Ballhawk, and he does have very impressive range with great instincts. He rarely gets beat deep. He has great size for a FS at 6'3 but is a bit lanky, but that can be fixed. If anything his only real downfall is his run support. Don't base your opinion on a player off 1 draft websites scouting report.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

he's also ranked 11th by Walter Football, Sideline Scouting, 13th by Draft Nasty, and 9th by Nfl Draft Scout, so whats your point ?

I never argued the fact that Hamlin was good in run support, I'm stating that he does do a good job in preventing the deep ball, and thats what hes asked to do almost every play, its his main responsibility and he does do it very well. Everyone knows hes below par in run support.

and im not necessarily calling you ignorant for not wanting Dallas to select the player or want him for that matter, im calling you ignorant for denying the fact that he'd be good value in the 5th. There's nothing to lose. But hey, your opinion.

and btw if anything Johnson is the definition of a Ballhawk, and he does have very impressive range with great instincts. He rarely gets beat deep. He has great size for a FS at 6'3 but is a bit lanky, but that can be fixed. If anything his only real downfall is his run support. Don't base your opinion on a player off 1 draft websites scouting report.

From the NFLDS scouting report I posted, they talk about his back-half range, but then says that he's not always there to help on deep throws.

Opponents don't test us in the back-half. We're gonna need somebody with more range, and Robert Johnson doesn't provide that. I simply don't think his playmaking ability will translate to the pros, and we need that horribly at safety. I think we could do a bit better than Johnson. A Nate Allen. A Morgan Burnett.

BPA >>> value.

 

[MarionBarberThe4th]

I went to draftnasty. Corey Chavous' site. It was ***

 

[AustnIsMySaviour]

From the NFLDS scouting report I posted, they talk about his back-half range, but then says that he's not always there to help on deep throws.

Opponents don't test us in the back-half. We're gonna need somebody with more range, and Robert Johnson doesn't provide that. I simply don't think his playmaking ability will translate to the pros, and we need that horribly at safety. I think we could do a bit better than Johnson. A Nate Allen. A Morgan Burnett.

BPA >>> value.

something we agree on. The consensus here is that we need an upgrade at FS, so lets hope Jerry listens for once.

 

[AustnIsMySaviour]

I went to draftnasty. Corey Chavous' site. It was ***

you have to subscribe to get full access to the site. Or else its useless.

 

[SLATEmosphere]

I like it

although everyone is high on Robert Johnson, I am not, he's Ken Hamlin part 2, a slow safety with limited range

no thanks

Honestly...i just picked him because he was the best available safety with a 5th round grade.. I ran out of people to draft. We will be stacked from rounds 1-4 if it ends up with my mock draft.

If we get the players in rounds 1-4 in my mock we will be set for years. Anything after those rounds is golden.

 

[The Realist]

Robert Johson has no range and compares to Ken Hamlin.

Now I've heard it all.