Going for the TD with 30 seconds to go - is that an unclassy move?

[BourbonBalz]

please. wade stopped the clock under 2 minutes for god knows what reason. They ran it as simply as they could. If wade wouldn't have called that, they would have run out of time right after their 3rd down run. Game over.

I have to disagree. The Pats threw the ball at least twice on the final drive after Romo's int. No class, but not surprising.

 

[VA Cowboy]

We could not stop them,

classless? I put the heat on us giving up 50 points.

Thats some on US....

Yeah, but you're a Pats fan, so what would you know?

 

[Cochese]

I have to disagree. The Pats threw the ball at least twice on the final drive after Romo's int. No class, but not surprising.

So what? The game wasnt over. Do you think they noticed what happened on Monday night?

 

[Nors]

I'm sorry for the integrity of the NFL and its fans that you were allowed to cheat for multiple championships, and now that you've upgraded your talent, dumb people will be fooled into believing that you aren't cheaters.

Sultan, you are so into this cheater mode you are missing what happens on the field. Pats crowned us today and JJ said he taped signals also in the 1990's.

 

[BourbonBalz]

So what? The game wasnt over. Do you think they noticed what happened on Monday night?

At that point, it WAS over. Are you braindead?

 

[Big Dakota]

I have coached for 16 yrs, and have been on both sides of blowouts.

I have never EVER felt that it is the winning teams job to keep the score close.

If you don't want a team to score on you, stop them.

Whether they scored or not it insignificant.

We lost to a better team today.

Now we prepare for the Vikings and not let this affect us next week.

That would show the character of our team if we can come out on the road and put a butt whoopin on the Vikes.

Then we get a week off, and then we have to make sure we win the division.

Stop whining and move on.

I agree. No quarter asked, none given.

 

[Aikbach]

Was Dennis Franchione coaching that final drive? He likes to run up scores, I guarantee Dallas will exact revenge IF NE can make it past Indy.

 

[SultanOfSix]

Sultan, you are so into this cheater mode you are missing what happens on the field. Pats crowned us today and JJ said he taped signals also in the 1990's.

Actually, what happened on the field, especially from the refs, put me into cheater mode, and only further exemplified how the NFL seems to lack integrity nowadays.

JJ never taped anything in the NFL. Only in college, and from the press box, not from the other team's sidelines IN VIOLATION of NFL policy.

Your team is a bunch of cheaters.

 

[MetalHead]

I'm sorry for the integrity of the NFL and its fans that you were allowed to cheat for multiple championships, and now that you've upgraded your talent, dumb people will be fooled into believing that you aren't cheaters.

***...three asterisks per championship
3 point differential per championship.
CHEATERS ALL THE WAY

 

[irvin88]

Was Dennis Franchione coaching that final drive? He likes to run up scores, I guarantee Dallas will exact revenge IF NE can make it past Indy.

They won't make it past indy. Indy won't have a bazillion penalties.

 

[WoodysGirl]

Actually, what happened on the field, especially from the refs, put me into cheater mode, and only further exemplified how the NFL seems to lack integrity nowadays.

JJ never taped anything in the NFL. Only in college, and from the press box, not from the other team's sidelines IN VIOLATION of NFL policy.

Your team are cheaters.

Knock it off with the Pats accusations, please.

And yess Jimmy Johnson did admit videotaping signals while coaching the 'boys, but that he didn't find them useful.

As for the press box, he said he used to have interns go into the opponents coaching box and steal their trash.

 

[George]

It wasn't necessary but in all honestly, the better team won. We'll get there.

Agreed. Let's concentrate on Minnesota now.

 

[SultanOfSix]

Knock it off with the Pats accusations, please.

And yess Jimmy Johnson did admit videotaping signals while coaching the 'boys, but that he didn't find them useful.

As for the press box, he said he used to have interns go into the opponents coaching box and steal their trash.

Reference please. That's not what I heard.

I have no idea what the press box has to do with interns going into the trash of the opposing team after the game.

 

[utrunner07]

***...three asterisks per championship
3 point differential per championship.
CHEATERS ALL THE WAY

if they had not cheated then the league would have come out and said so after reviewing the tapes...the didnt therefore its pretty obvious the pats cheated in the three super bowls. Any one that denies that is not being logical.

(that being said, it had no effect on Today's game. the pats are good)

 

[Biggems]

Okay here it goes. I'm sorry we beat you by to many points. I hope you feel better.

enjoy it....enjoy it.....but at the end of the day, at least we know all 5 of our SB titles are legit.....the same cannot be said for the Cheatriots.....

 

[MetalHead]

What line would that be?

I think I laid my thoughts out there pretty plain in black and white.

"If you don't want a team to score on you,stop them".
I have a 16 month old boy and a ten year old girl at home.
If they get into a fight,and my 16 month old gets badly hurt,should I use you philosophy?

Are you such a loser you can't even tell when you have won?

 

[rangers71]

Was it classless? The best way to answer that is by asking yourself this. Would Tom Landry have taken a knee or scored?

 

[WoodysGirl]

Reference please. That's not what I heard.

I have no idea what the press box has to do with interns going into the trash of the opposing team after the game.

The story on the intern stealing trash is something he said while on the Fox pre-game show.

Mike and Mad Dog show
9/28

http://www.wfan.com/episode_download.php?contentType=36&contentId=1036042

http://www.wfan.com/pages/744503.php

Q: How about the spying thing Jimmy. You're a coach does that bother you what Belichick did?

JJ: Oh please. I've said it on our show. Eighteen years ago a scout for the chiefs told me what they did, and he said what you need to do is just take your camera and you go and zoom in on the signal caller and that way you can sync it up. The problem is that if they're not on the press box side you can't do it from the press box, you have to do it from the sideline. This was 18 years ago.

Q: You think the NFL came down too hard on them?

JJ: No, no, I said it on the show. He was wrong for doing it for the simple reason that the league knew this was going on not ust in New England but around the league. And the league sent out the memorandum to all of the teams saying you cannot do this. And os that's when Bill Belichick was wrong. After he got the memorandum saying don't do it any more, he did it.

Q: Did you ever steal signals?

JJ: Oh in a heartbeat, yeah. Yes I did.

Q: Via video, Jimmy? Or no?

JJ: Oh yeah, I did it with video and so did a lot of other teams in the league. Just to make sure that you could study it and take your time, because you're going to play the other team the second time around. But a lot of coaches did it, this was commonplace.

Q: But did you do it by taping the signal caller?

JJ: Yeah.

Q: Oh you did.

JJ: That's what I'm saying. I was saying one of Marty Schottenheimers scouts, Mark Hatley, who has passed away now, Mark told me that's how they did it, and Howard Mudd their offensive line coach with Kansas City, who now coaches for Tony Dungy, he was the best in the entire league at stealing signals.

Q: Where'd you put your guy who was videotaping? Where was he?

JJ: My guy was up with my camera crew in the press box. So you'd just put an extra camera up with your camera crew in the press box who zoomed in on the signal callers. That's the best way to do it, but anyway you can't always do that because the press box camera crew might be on the same side as the opposing team. If they're on the same side as the opposing team that's when you need to do it from the sideline.
Q: Also with some operations and some teams they have equipment set up within the stadium so they can just run it ack and check what's going on during the game anyway.

JJ: Oh I'll tell you [laughing] some of the stuff that goes on it's almost comical.

Q: Jimmy don't you think using contraptions like that goes against the spirit of football?

JJ: Well that's why the league put in that you can't use any electronic equipment, during the game, locker room, press box, sideline, this type of thing. They ruled against it and again that's why Bill Belichick was wrong.

Q: How much of an advantage would it give them?

JJ: Well you know Bradshaw and I had a talk back and forth on this. I did it a few times and then I stopped doing it because I didn't think we got much out of it to be honest with you. But games are so close... If it gives you one single play in the ballgame it might be the difference. But again, he was wrong for doing it after the memorandum was sent out by the league, because the league knew that other teams were doing it. And so... it was a commonplace thing though.

 

[Dave_in-NC]

The story on the intern stealing trash is something he said while on the Fox pre-game show.

Mike and Mad Dog show
9/28

http://www.wfan.com/episode_download.php?contentType=36&contentId=1036042

http://www.wfan.com/pages/744503.php

Q: How about the spying thing Jimmy. You're a coach does that bother you what Belichick did?

JJ: Oh please. I've said it on our show. Eighteen years ago a scout for the chiefs told me what they did, and he said what you need to do is just take your camera and you go and zoom in on the signal caller and that way you can sync it up. The problem is that if they're not on the press box side you can't do it from the press box, you have to do it from the sideline. This was 18 years ago.

Q: You think the NFL came down too hard on them?

JJ: No, no, I said it on the show. He was wrong for doing it for the simple reason that the league knew this was going on not ust in New England but around the league. And the league sent out the memorandum to all of the teams saying you cannot do this. And os that's when Bill Belichick was wrong. After he got the memorandum saying don't do it any more, he did it.

Q: Did you ever steal signals?

JJ: Oh in a heartbeat, yeah. Yes I did.

Q: Via video, Jimmy? Or no?

JJ: Oh yeah, I did it with video and so did a lot of other teams in the league. Just to make sure that you could study it and take your time, because you're going to play the other team the second time around. But a lot of coaches did it, this was commonplace.

Q: But did you do it by taping the signal caller?

JJ: Yeah.

Q: Oh you did.

JJ: That's what I'm saying. I was saying one of Marty Schottenheimers scouts, Mark Hatley, who has passed away now, Mark told me that's how they did it, and Howard Mudd their offensive line coach with Kansas City, who now coaches for Tony Dungy, he was the best in the entire league at stealing signals.

Q: Where'd you put your guy who was videotaping? Where was he?

JJ: My guy was up with my camera crew in the press box. So you'd just put an extra camera up with your camera crew in the press box who zoomed in on the signal callers. That's the best way to do it, but anyway you can't always do that because the press box camera crew might be on the same side as the opposing team. If they're on the same side as the opposing team that's when you need to do it from the sideline.
Q: Also with some operations and some teams they have equipment set up within the stadium so they can just run it ack and check what's going on during the game anyway.

JJ: Oh I'll tell you [laughing] some of the stuff that goes on it's almost comical.

Q: Jimmy don't you think using contraptions like that goes against the spirit of football?

JJ: Well that's why the league put in that you can't use any electronic equipment, during the game, locker room, press box, sideline, this type of thing. They ruled against it and again that's why Bill Belichick was wrong.

Q: How much of an advantage would it give them?

JJ: Well you know Bradshaw and I had a talk back and forth on this. I did it a few times and then I stopped doing it because I didn't think we got much out of it to be honest with you. But games are so close... If it gives you one single play in the ballgame it might be the difference. But again, he was wrong for doing it after the memorandum was sent out by the league, because the league knew that other teams were doing it. And so... it was a commonplace thing though.

I'm thinking thats pretty good proof ehe?

 

[WV Cowboy]

"If you don't want a team to score on you,stop them".
I have a 16 month old boy and a ten year old girl at home.
If they get into a fight,and my 16 month old gets badly hurt,should I use you philosophy?

Are you such a loser you can't even tell when you have won?

Are you serious? Are you for real?

I thought we were talking about a pro football game, not children fighting.

What are you even talking about?

Bad analogy if that is what that was.

When you realize the difference between NFL football and kids squabbling, get back to me.

I can't believe this.