Going for the TD with 30 seconds to go - is that an unclassy move?

peplaw06

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Who cares?? They beat us. It doesn't matter by how much. All that matters is they had more points than us.

The only people who are looking at that score and thinking that Dallas really got manhandled probably didn't watch the game.... or only watched the 4th quarter :D
 

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Its simple. This is the NFL.

You don't want the score run up on you?

Stop them.
 

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Artie Lange;1709689 said:

I'm pretty sure I didn't post anything funny. If someone doesn't agree with you, you don't have to make an *** out of yourself to try and persuade them. Grow up.
 

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Maybe someone else said it, but you guys are forgetting that it was 4th down, if they take a knee there, then the clock stops and we get the ball. No team, not even the Cowboys, would do that on 4th down.

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JustSayNotoTO;1708722 said:
No, what was Wade doing calling a time out when they were trying to run down the clock? I dont blame them for scoring.

i agree with you, thats why they did it.
 

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WoodysGirl;1709655 said:
There was nothing general about what Jimmy said. I listened to the audio as well as re-read the transcript. He was very specific about how he videotaped signals. The point is he did it. I honestly don't care how each tried to apply the knowledge. They both did it and there's nothing you can do to justify the fact that Jimmy did it, too.

Pats were wrong because they did it after they were told not to do it.

Are you saying I can't read? I read it too, and I know for sure that what Jimmy claimed he did is nothing like what Bellichek did... and Jimmy never did it illegally...

The problem is your trying to make a baseless analogy with Jimmy and Bellichek, based upon the question of whether Jimmy stole signals or not, which means absolutely nothing..If the question was, did you try and steal signals like Bellichek did, than you would have a point.. if the question was did you, Jimmy Johnson violate the league rules by taping signals, you wuold have gotten a different answer by Jimmy...

they are not alike.. that is the reality of it, and the NFL burned the tapes, and that is the reality of it...

the facts are the facts.. they are different...
 

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Whoever thinks that was OK you obviously never played organized sports in your life.



It feels terrible. Insult to injury sucks, period.
 

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HeavyHitta31;1708662 said:
That was not necessary
There's nothing worse than a team taking a knee on your own 2 yard line because they feel sorry for you. No thanks, if you don't like it, stop their ***. Or you can let them score and then cry about it later I guess.
 

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khiladi;1709900 said:
Are you saying I can't read? I read it too, and I know for sure that what Jimmy claimed he did is nothing like what Bellichek did... and Jimmy never did it illegally...

The problem is your trying to make a baseless analogy with Jimmy and Bellichek, based upon the question of whether Jimmy stole signals or not, which means absolutely nothing..If the question was, did you try and steal signals like Bellichek did, than you would have a point.. if the question was did you, Jimmy Johnson violate the league rules by taping signals, you wuold have gotten a different answer by Jimmy...

they are not alike.. that is the reality of it, and the NFL burned the tapes, and that is the reality of it...

the facts are the facts.. they are different...
Don't think I said you couldn't read.

If you go back and look at the beginning of the thread, the original question was whether Jimmy admitted to videotaping signals. Someone asked for proof. I provided it. Not sure what's baseless about it.

The difference is the rule wasn't instituted when Jimmy did it, so no, there was no violation. I didn't argue that he violated a league policy. Nor have I argued that the Pats weren't wrong for doing it after the league instituted the rule. I actually believe that they got off light considering everything.

But it doesn't take anything away from the fact that Jimmy videotaped signals, too. No matter how minor he considered the competitive edge, he still did something that no way should be blown off.
 

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I thought it was running up the score but Bill has no class and so it doesn't surprise me.

The Cowboys D should have stopped them.

I am surprised Brady was still in there. If he popped a ACL or something well they'd be in deep doo-doo. Not that I care but that's just stupid.

The game was over. They won. They should have taken a knee.
 

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smarta5150;1709923 said:
Whoever thinks that was OK you obviously never played organized sports in your life.



It feels terrible. Insult to injury sucks, period.

Wrong.

I've played organized sports. But hey, feel free to wrongly diverge into what I may or may not have done throughout my life.

And while i was never happy when the score was wrong; I also knew if my team had done the job, we wouldn't have been in that position.
 

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smarta5150;1709923 said:
Whoever thinks that was OK you obviously never played organized sports in your life.

It feels terrible. Insult to injury sucks, period.

Actually, as I have been reading through the threads about the last TD, I was thinking just the opposite, ... I was thinking that anybody that was whining about the last TD probably never played sports, and I also thought they must have never coached.
 

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smarta5150;1709923 said:
Whoever thinks that was OK you obviously never played organized sports in your life.



It feels terrible. Insult to injury sucks, period.

I played sports for many years and I was more insulted when teams would pull starters and start taking it easy on me. I'd rather you play the entire 60 min than show pity.
 

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Vintage;1709778 said:
Its simple. This is the NFL.

You don't want the score run up on you?

Stop them.

This is true. Of course most coaches with any class just take a knee in that situtation just the same.

It's really not a huge deal, not like Buddy Ryan having Randall fake a kneel down in the final seconds and then throw a long TD pass. But the reaction of the Pats after they scored that last TD showed they wanted to run it up.

But yeah, if you stop them it's not an issue, but most teams kneel down and show some class. That's something NE doesn't have an ounce of. I wasn't surprised.
 

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It's over and done with, need to move onto the next game, no need to dwell on this loss. The Pats won, won big and hope that the Cowboys play better and better and better to be a strong playoff condender.
 

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VA Cowboy;1711816 said:
This is true. Of course most coaches with any class just take a knee in that situtation just the same.

It's really not a huge deal, not like Buddy Ryan having Randall fake a kneel down in the final seconds and then throw a long TD pass. But the reaction of the Pats after they scored that last TD showed they wanted to run it up.

But yeah, if you stop them it's not an issue, but most teams kneel down and show some class. That's something NE doesn't have an ounce of. I wasn't surprised.

on 4th down, after we'd called what, 2 TO's, if they kneel we get it w/30 seconds left. why give it back?
 

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They scored with 19 seconds to go. If they take a kneel down, no way we score 14 points in 19 seconds with no time outs. They ran up the score but as I wrote, I expected no less from Mumbles.

Just like them munching on popcorn after the game or doing the Merriman dance after their playoff game last year, they have no class.
 
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