Good God you people. Stop freaking over WR

[DallasEast]

How do we know they are better until we see them in real games? we keep reading and hearing how much better they are. but seeing is believing.

That's a good question. Have you thought about asking yourself that question before starting, "We're in trouble at WR, folks" kinda threads?

 

[UVAwahoos]

I must've missed the memo saying we're supposed to blindingly conform to JJ and agree with everything he does, or else we're considered "trolls" and labelled into "the sky is falling" group.

Talk to any sober, non-homer and I think they will agree we are thin at WR. Does that mean the sky is falling? No. Does that mean we're going to go 5-11? No.

But if the goal is to win a Super Bowl, than I think it's ok to say we have not really addressed a position that crumbled last year in the home stretch, (particularly in the playoff loss) and that's just inexcusable. You hope for young players to develop when you're rebuilding, not when you're expecting to win the conference. I'm open to becoming pleasently surprised and seeing a breakout season from one of these WRs opposite TO, but I just don't think that's the mentality to have when you've worked for years to rebuild and get back to the top. It's fine that there was nobody to draft or trade for, but even if it took an extra $1.2 million to keep Glenn on the roster, and allow him to practice, wouldn't you want to go forward with the best roster possible? I see the roster better with Glenn than without personally. That doesn't mean the sky is falling, but it doesn't make me happy either because I already saw what happens to our offense when TO is not playing or not 100%. We can't prevent injuries, but we can prepare for them, and I sure don't think we're prepared for an injury at WR.

 

[ThreeSportStar80]

It amazes me how people are acting as though Dallas was horrible on offense last year without Terry Glenn... I mean they are confident Miles Austion, Hurd and of course Crayton.

 

[gbrittain]

We can keep our heads togather all we want. but in the end it will come back to talent. and the questin is,outside of owens,do we have the talent at WR to be a championship team?

What would you think about Dallas chances of winning a Super Bowl with Michael Irvin and Kevin Williams at Wide Out?

 

[Cajuncowboy]

I must've missed the memo saying we're supposed to blindingly conform to JJ and agree with everything he does, or else we're considered "trolls" and labelled into "the sky is falling" group.

Talk to any sober, non-homer and I think they will agree we are thin at WR. Does that mean the sky is falling? No. Does that mean we're going to go 5-11? No.

But if the goal is to win a Super Bowl, than I think it's ok to say we have not really addressed a position that crumbled last year in the home stretch, (particularly in the playoff loss) and that's just inexcusable. You hope for young players to develop when you're rebuilding, not when you're expecting to win the conference. I'm open to becoming pleasently surprised and seeing a breakout season from one of these WRs opposite TO, but I just don't think that's the mentality to have when you've worked for years to rebuild and get back to the top. It's fine that there was nobody to draft or trade for, but even if it took an extra $1.2 million to keep Glenn on the roster, and allow him to practice, wouldn't you want to go forward with the best roster possible? I see the roster better with Glenn than without personally. That doesn't mean the sky is falling, but it doesn't make me happy either because I already saw what happens to our offense when TO is not playing for not 100%. We can't prevent injuries, but we can prepare for them, and I sure don't think we're prepared for an injury at WR.

The problem is that Glenn obviously can't pass a physical. Why take up a roster spot with someone who can't play and you KNOW it? Use the roster spot on someone who will be there. Glenn simply being on the roster isn't that big of a plus. If it was so big, he was playing during the playoff game, why didn't we win it? You think it was all on the WRs? Really?

 

[PhilPoz]

I like the WR's we have behind TO and Crayton, all that is needed are reps to gain experience. Once you gain experience, then you can "mature" into the position. Hurd, Austin and Stanback now have an opportunity to step up and I have faith that at least one of them will.

 

[cowboyrock]

How do you know they're not???? They took us to the best record in franchise history and won the division.

Miles Austin and Sam hurd is not the reason we were 13 and 3. we dont know what they are yet.

 

[AsthmaField]

Not to mention that we have a RB who is going to catch WAY more passes than either Julius Jones or Barber did last year. WAY more.

Add in the catches that Felix will get to those to Witten, TO, Crayton, Hurd, etc. and how many freakin balls do people think there are to go around?

We will be more than fine.

 

[Cajuncowboy]

Miles Austin and Sam hurd is not the reason we were 13 and 3. we dont know what they are yet.

I'll tell you what, they aren't the reason we lost 3 games either. And don;t forget that in two of those losses, Glenn did play.

 

[InmanRoshi]

Despite the hype, Cowboy fans must really think Jason Garrett sucks deep down inside. Why pay a coordinator $3 million a year if he needs proven All Pro players at every position? Any coordinator could win with that. What is the "boy genius' Garrett bringing to the table to earn his $3 million a year?

You want to blame all of last year because TO was just 80-85%? The Giants secondary was completely depleated, using their 4th or 5th CB at times against us, and Steve Spagnuolo found a way to get the job done. I guess he's a real 'boy genius' instead of just an overhyped, fake one.

 

[gbrittain]

Miles Austin and Sam hurd is not the reason we were 13 and 3. we dont know what they are yet.

I would love Dallas to be stacked at WR. If there is one question mark on our team it is at WR.

However, show me the team that does not have a question mark on their team.

Bottom line, is this is the team Dallas going to war with and nothing is going to change that outside some miracle trade for a Boldin or Williams.

I would not bank on that, but sure I would be happy if it happened.

 

[cowboyrock]

Not to mention that we have a RB who is going to catch WAY more passes than either Julius Jones or Barber did last year. WAY more.

Add in the catches that Felix will get to those to Witten, TO, Crayton, Hurd, etc. and how many freakin balls do people think there are to go around?

We will be more than fine.

OK im just going to wait and see. i keep hearing we will be fine. we'll see.

 

[Deep_Freeze]

As I said in another thread, if Jason Garrett can't 'make due' with just one All Pro WR, a All Pro TE, a Pro Bowl QB and a Pro Bowl RB and three Pro Bowl offensive linemen ... he's the most overrated and overpaid coach in football, and I don't ever want him to be the head coach of the Dallas Cowboys.

Now that they got Shockey, the Saints fans are eagerly rubbing their hands together anticipating what Sean Payton is going to do with their offense this year, and they don't have a #2 WR as good as Crayton. David Patten is going to be their #2 WR, and Terrence Copper will probably be #3. Remember Terrence Copper?

Evidently the Saints fans have a lot more faith in Sean Payton than the Cowboy fans do in Jason Garrett.

Saints fans aren't coming off a 13-3 season with expectations of a Super Bowl.

They are improved, and I think that is the reason for some of the questions here as to whether or not we have improved.

 

[gbrittain]

Despite the hype, Cowboy fans must really think Jason Garrett sucks deep down inside. Why pay a coordinator $3 million a year if he needs proven All Pro players at every position? Any coordinator could win with that. What is the "boy genius' Garrett bringing to the table to earn his $3 million a year?

You want to blame all of last year because TO was just 80-85%? The Giants secondary was completely depleated, using their 4th or 5th CB at times against us, and Steve Spagnuolo found a way to get the job done. I guess he's a real 'boy genius' instead of just an overhyped, fake one.

Careful now, not all Cowboy fans feel that way.

 

[UVAwahoos]

The problem is that Glenn obviously can't pass a physical. Why take up a roster spot with someone who can't play and you KNOW it? Use the roster spot on someone who will be there. Glenn simply being on the roster isn't that big of a plus. If it was so big, he was playing during the playoff game, why didn't we win it? You think it was all on the WRs? Really?

Yeah if Glenn truly can't play than I completely agree. It sounds like our staff feels that way, but Glenn does not and he knows his body better than any of us.

Obviously it's not all on the WRs, but that was an issue down the stretch and we have not addressed it at all. We couldn't move the ball like we were in in the first half of the season, so our record breaking stats don't look as good when you see how we finished. Glenn at 75% would even help IMO. I hope I am wrong and you are right, because Glenn is gone now so I can't dwell. I just wish we had a more concrete plan than seeing how these guys develop at the 2 spot and down. I'd rather do that with Glenn on the roster than off of it.

 

[InmanRoshi]

Saints fans aren't coming off a 13-3 season with expectations of a Super Bowl.

They are improved, and I think that is the reason for some of the questions here as to whether or not we have improved.

They're not coming off a 13-3 season because their defense has sucked, but Payton has put up the #1 and #3 passing offense in the NFL the last two years without a good #2 WR and without a "field stretcher".

I guess Sean Payton is a real football genius, instead of an overhyped one with a degree from a fancy college.

 

[UVAwahoos]

As I said in another thread, if Jason Garrett can't 'make due' with just one All Pro WR, a All Pro TE, a Pro Bowl QB and a Pro Bowl RB and three Pro Bowl offensive linemen ... he's the most overrated and overpaid coach in football, and I don't ever want him to be the head coach of the Dallas Cowboys.

Now that they got Shockey, the Saints fans are eagerly rubbing their hands together anticipating what Sean Payton is going to do with their offense this year, and they don't have a #2 WR as good as Crayton. David Patten is going to be their #2 WR, and Terrence Copper will probably be #3. Remember Terrence Copper?

Evidently the Saints fans have a lot more faith in Sean Payton than the Cowboy fans do in Jason Garrett.

The Saints took a step forward in order to fix a flaw in their receiving game by signing Shockey.

We also had a flaw in our receiving game and we did not take a step to fix it. Instead, we are now waiting it out and hoping the players on the roster develop across from TO, in a season deemed Super Bowl or bust. I think that's the difference, but I more than hope I am wrong and everyone who thinks we are fine is right. I just understand the concern because I was not happy with Crayton at the 2 spot last year.

 

[Deep_Freeze]

They're not coming off a 13-3 season because their defense has sucked, but Payton has put up the #1 and #3 passing offense in the NFL the last two years without a good #2 WR and without a "field stretcher".

I guess Sean Payton is a real football genius, instead of an overhyped one with a degree from a fancy college.

I guess I just don't think the situations relate. When a team comes off a bad season like the Saints did last season, then they add a guy like Shockey with more of their health back on offense, there is reason for them to be "rubbing their palms" for a better season this year.

We are just in a different situation.

 

[InmanRoshi]

The Saints took a step forward in order to fix a flaw in their receiving game by signing Shockey.

We also had a flaw in our receiving game and we did not take a step to fix it. Instead, we are now waiting it out and hoping the players on the roster develop across from TO, in a season deemed Super Bowl or bust. I think that's the difference, but I more than hope I am wrong and everyone who thinks we are fine is right. I just understand the concern because I was not happy with Crayton at the 2 spot last year.

The Saints don't have any more offensive weapons than we do, actually less when you consider they have a worse offensive line, and they aren't concerned at all about their offense. We already had an All Pro TE. The Saints had to aquire Shockey just to give Payton the weapons that Garrett already had.

Again, why in the world are we paying an offensive coordinator $3 million a year when he needs proven All Pro players at every position? He doesn't sound all that great to me.

 

[Cajuncowboy]

Yeah if Glenn truly can't play than I completely agree. It sounds like our staff feels that way, but Glenn does not and he knows his body better than any of us.

Obviously it's not all on the WRs, but that was an issue down the stretch and we have not addressed it at all. We couldn't move the ball like we were in in the first half of the season, so our record breaking stats don't look as good when you see how we finished. Glenn at 75% would even help IMO. I hope I am wrong and you are right, because Glenn is gone now so I can't dwell. I just wish we had a more concrete plan than seeing how these guys develop at the 2 spot and down. I'd rather do that with Glenn on the roster than off of it.

If Glenn was so sure of it, then he would have signed the split contract, which he did not and it forced JJ's hand. I think even Glenn know it, but wanted to avoid the financial hit he would take if he did re-injure the knee.