Goodell did not attend Ezekiel Elliott hearing

Bigdog

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I get why he didn't attend. He wants the public to think he is not involved in this one. He wants to put it all on the 4 people on the panel. But man Goodell really knows how to keep making things worse. I keep going back to Ray Rice. How does he suspend Ray Rice for abuse and then only suspend Zeke 6 games for abuse, or Josh Brown 1 game for abuse. This is just getting old.
I was listening to a lawyer this morning who said that after 2014 is when Goodell became strict on this since they had mud on their face from those two incidents.
 

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Considering that in the letter, they cited that cooperation wasn't a problem, and he wasn't going to be disciplined for not cooperating, I don't buy this.
 

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File a lawsuit immediately, Don't even give Goodell the implied compliance of an appeal. His punishment for a narrow definition of domestic violence was so haphazard, his judgement cannot be trusted.

The punishment was not related to the broad definition of personal conduct policy, so that latitude to levy punishment is not in his jurisdiction.
 

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Smells of a predetermined outcome, he is more interested in perception and special interest groups than one man's reputation.

Bingo.

As people should have figured out all along.

It's never been about his innocence or reputation. It's always been 100% about what the league fears sponsors, or potential sponsors, are going to think and what just being involved in a case like this does to the leagues precious image.
 

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File a lawsuit immediately, Don't even give Goodell the implied compliance of an appeal. His punishment for a narrow definition of domestic violence was so haphazard, his judgement cannot be trusted.

The punishment was not related to the broad definition of personal conduct policy, so that latitude to levy punishment is not in his jurisdiction.

you can always withdraw a case
 

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I was listening to a lawyer this morning who said that after 2014 is when Goodell became strict on this since they had mud on their face from those two incidents.
Josh Brown happened last year.... I think
 

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They said he did in their report though. I think we've entered the disinformation stage.

yes, they need to pound hard on her attempt to falsify evidence and the black man/white woman stuff.
some dallas reporter needs to get an exclusive.
 

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They said he did in their report though. I think we've entered the disinformation stage.
Absolutely. They made a tactical error being that specific in the statement. Makes it hard to say he was not cooperative and also that he was suspended due to a cumulative effect of bad behavior. Unless there is some unknown smoking gun with regards to the accuser, hard to see a way they can weasel out.
 

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Cooperation based on what?

Investigator: "Zeke did you beat her to a pulp and lied about it to officials?"
Zeke: "Of course not!"
Investigator: "Your lying and uncooperative!"
Supposedly, it took six months for Zeke to comply to the cellphone request.
 

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Absolutely. They made a tactical error being that specific in the statement. Makes it hard to say he was not cooperative and also that he was suspended due to a cumulative effect of bad behavior. Unless there is some unknown smoking gun with regards to the accuser, hard to see a way they can weasel out.

good point.
their letter was strangely specific.
 

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Did you read the article? This has nothing to do with the appeal. It has everything to do with Goddell's judgement on how he determined Zeke to be a "women beater" without looking at the evidence.

Its silly to make judgement on someone's livelihood without looking into the facts. This is exactly what happened with Goddell and if you think that this is something the league can brush off easily you are gravely mistaken.

With great power comes great responsibility. Goddell failed in all respects to it if what the article states is correct. Not wishful thinking at all.
Exactly, First Goodell makes Jerry Jones looks silly after Jerry said he looked at all the evidence on the ex gf and there wasnt any shred of evidence against Zeke, NONE. So, as we all know that infuriated Jerry. Now, when Jerry hears that Goodell wasnt even at the hearing when sentence went down afterwards, then its stupid on Goodell part, but in reality super for us, this makes the NFL look bad, even more adds fuel to the fire that Mara is behind this all along with Friel whom Mara hired, who issued just a one game suspension for Josh Brown. Now, if zeke gets his head on straight, stays out of trouble, quit acting like a silly kid, then I think zeke will get acquitted and can play, this gives zeke's dad even more ammunition to give to the federal judge later in court. Wait till the federal judge hears that goodell wasnt at the meeting, and that Goodell called zeke a woman beater.
 

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File a lawsuit immediately, Don't even give Goodell the implied compliance of an appeal. His punishment for a narrow definition of domestic violence was so haphazard, his judgement cannot be trusted.

The punishment was not related to the broad definition of personal conduct policy, so that latitude to levy punishment is not in his jurisdiction.

Well this may sound nice and all, it wouldn't make a difference. "Before Elliott can file a lawsuit with a plausible chance for success, he must first exhaust the administrative remedies provided by the CBA. If he files before that time, a court would likely dismiss the lawsuit as not yet “ripe,” meaning not ready yet for judicial review."

https://www.si.com/nfl/2017/08/11/ezekiel-elliott-suspension-appeal-legal-process
 
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