Goodell did not attend Ezekiel Elliott hearing

[CT Dal Fan]

NFL doesn't need proof, Goodell is the Alpha and Omega.

I have two, actually, closer to two hundred, better names for Goodell. They would mostly come up as asterisks on this forum.

 

[Cowboys_22]

Sounds like Goodfornothing didn't want the hearing to influence his decision

 

[Plumfool]

But why should Zeke do anything to comply with the investigation? He needed to worry about playing football and not worry about the investigations. Heck, the NFL can ask Ohio prosecutors for the evidence that they need....not Zeke.

And they did get that info from the state.

 

[CT Dal Fan]

Sounds like Goodfornothing didn't want the hearing to influence his decision

That's okay, it strengthens Zeke's court case if it gets that far.

 

[cowboyjoe]

Ezekiel Elliott to file suspension appeal Tuesday or Wednesday

Print

• 
• By Ian Rapoport
• NFL Network Insider
• Published: Aug. 14, 2017 at 07:15 p.m.
• Updated: Aug. 14, 2017 at 07:22 p.m.
• 0 Likes | 0 Comments

• Read
• Discuss

Cowboys running back Ezekiel Elliott will file the appeal of his six-game suspension on Tuesday or Wednesday, sources close to him say, with the hope of getting back on the football field as soon as possible.

With that in mind, his legal team is preparing the arguments for his appeals hearing, either with Commissioner Roger Goodell or his designee. A portion of his argument, according to those familiar with it, revolves around the credibility of his alleged victim. Elliott will attempt to show that the NFL's suspension did not accurately weigh that factor.

According to documents obtained by NFL.com, Elliott actually filed an official incident report alleging harassment with Frisco (Texas) Police on Sept. 5, 2016 against Tiffany Thompson, identified by the league as his alleged victim.

The report details that police were dispatched to Elliott's house because he received "50-plus" phone calls from his ex-girlfriend between 2:39 a.m. and 10 a.m. She called from a blocked number and Elliott answered several times, he told police, informing Thompson she was not supposed to be calling him, per the report.

Elliott provided a written statement of the incident for police.

Elliott reported the claim one day before Columbus Police announced it would not press charges against Elliott, though the incident happened two days before that.




Columbus prosecutor Robert S. Tobias declined comment when asked in an email if his office was aware of the harassment claim before making its charging decision, NFL Network's Tom Pelissero reports.

Frisco Police Sgt. Jeff Inmon told Pelissero the harassment case is currently inactive. In addition, Elliott told police that Thompson hacked into his email account, found phone numbers and called them to leave "untruthful things that can hurt his image." Thompson told league investigators that she contacted women Elliott was "messing around" with.

Goodell used this information earlier while forming his decision, but Elliott's team hopes to highlight it in the appeal.

In his letter to Elliott, NFL Senior VP B. Todd Jones, special counsel for conduct, specifically addressed the credibility of Thompson. He wrote that these issues received "careful consideration" by the commissioner but added "no finding, and no disciplinary action, was based on simply one individual's statements. Instead, Jones wrote, the findings are a combination of "photographic, medical, testimonial, and other evidence that is sufficiently credible in the Commissioner's judgment to establish the facts, even allowing for concerns you and your representatives have advance about the complaining witness's credibility."

 

[hornitosmonster]

This is how Zeke's appeal should go, if things made sense:

Zeke: "I'm innocent but can't prove it".
NFL: "We think you're guilty but we can't prove it".

Arbitrator: Let's meet in the middle. Six game suspension reduced to three games. Everybody gets the benefit of the doubt.

Nope, Jerry and Zeke can't settle until all games are lifted and Roger losses his job. The circus is over and needs to be shut down

 

[ConstantReboot]

And they did get that info from the state.

Yeah I know. Then why ask Zeke for the same exact evidence that Ohio prosecutors gave? Then they blamed Zeke for being uncooperative. Something fishy here.

 

[ThreeandOut]

Ezekiel Elliott to file suspension appeal Tuesday or Wednesday

Print

• 
• By Ian Rapoport
• NFL Network Insider
• Published: Aug. 14, 2017 at 07:15 p.m.
• Updated: Aug. 14, 2017 at 07:22 p.m.
• 0 Likes | 0 Comments

• Read
• Discuss

Cowboys running back Ezekiel Elliott will file the appeal of his six-game suspension on Tuesday or Wednesday, sources close to him say, with the hope of getting back on the football field as soon as possible.

With that in mind, his legal team is preparing the arguments for his appeals hearing, either with Commissioner Roger Goodell or his designee. A portion of his argument, according to those familiar with it, revolves around the credibility of his alleged victim. Elliott will attempt to show that the NFL's suspension did not accurately weigh that factor.

According to documents obtained by NFL.com, Elliott actually filed an official incident report alleging harassment with Frisco (Texas) Police on Sept. 5, 2016 against Tiffany Thompson, identified by the league as his alleged victim.

The report details that police were dispatched to Elliott's house because he received "50-plus" phone calls from his ex-girlfriend between 2:39 a.m. and 10 a.m. She called from a blocked number and Elliott answered several times, he told police, informing Thompson she was not supposed to be calling him, per the report.

Elliott provided a written statement of the incident for police.

Elliott reported the claim one day before Columbus Police announced it would not press charges against Elliott, though the incident happened two days before that.




Columbus prosecutor Robert S. Tobias declined comment when asked in an email if his office was aware of the harassment claim before making its charging decision, NFL Network's Tom Pelissero reports.

Frisco Police Sgt. Jeff Inmon told Pelissero the harassment case is currently inactive. In addition, Elliott told police that Thompson hacked into his email account, found phone numbers and called them to leave "untruthful things that can hurt his image." Thompson told league investigators that she contacted women Elliott was "messing around" with.

Goodell used this information earlier while forming his decision, but Elliott's team hopes to highlight it in the appeal.

In his letter to Elliott, NFL Senior VP B. Todd Jones, special counsel for conduct, specifically addressed the credibility of Thompson. He wrote that these issues received "careful consideration" by the commissioner but added "no finding, and no disciplinary action, was based on simply one individual's statements. Instead, Jones wrote, the findings are a combination of "photographic, medical, testimonial, and other evidence that is sufficiently credible in the Commissioner's judgment to establish the facts, even allowing for concerns you and your representatives have advance about the complaining witness's credibility."

Just waiting for someone to post that it's common for victims of domestic abuse to harass their alleged abusers three months after the guy breaks it off.

 

[Alexander]

Just waiting for someone to post that it's common for victims of domestic abuse to harass their alleged abusers three months after the guy breaks it off.

I don't know what you have against women, but you really need to seek help or something.

No woman scorned has ever been vindictive and vengeful. Never. Ever.

 

[Chuck 54]

Actually, I prefer he not attend. That's the whole idea behind hiring an independent investigator or panel, in this case. The panel comes to a conclusion, shares it, and then the commissioner acts based on their findings. I have little love for the commish or this suspension, but it would actually be inappropriate for him to attend. You're hoping for unbiased objectivity; you don't get that if the NFL brass is part of it.

 

[ConstantReboot]

I have two, actually, closer to two hundred, better names for Goodell. They would mostly come up as asterisks on this forum.

God + Hell = Goddell

 

[Sydla]

I don't know what you have against women, but you really need to seek help or something.

No woman scorned has ever been vindictive and vengeful. Never. Ever.

However, this with the totality of evidence is painting a very bleak picture for the decision the NFL made.

Every new snippet of info that comes out seems to hurt the NFL's case, a case which basically revolves around the principle that if Elliott can't explain how she got bruised, he obviously then did it.

 

[ThreeandOut]

I don't know what you have against women, but you really need to seek help or something.

No woman scorned has ever been vindictive and vengeful. Never. Ever.

Guess I'll need to schedule therapy to deal with this logic and common sense problem.

 

[Bleedblue1111]

That's a pretty bad look for the league.

Or, more for a guy that makes $40 plus million a year to handle these things himself. Wish someone could find out where he was, and what he was doing.

 

[Wood]

I don't think it's any news for Goodell. The process is set up for him to hear any appeal, so whether he's in the room for the initial meeting is virtually irrelevant.

If you think this is going to bring him down, yeah, I say you're engaging in wishful thinking. The overwhelming majority of the people not on this forum aren't upset about this ruling. Most don't care one way or another.

I think your correct. The initial ruling are designed to appeal to sponsors & large segments of NFL fan base. Tire meets the road during appeal meetings.

 

[tyke1doe]

Just waiting for someone to post that it's common for victims of domestic abuse to harass their alleged abusers three months after the guy breaks it off.

It's actually atypical for victims to repeatedly contact their abusers.

 

[PA Cowboy Fan]

It's actually atypical for victims to repeatedly contact their abusers.

She sounds like more of a psycho.

 

[PA Cowboy Fan]

What I want to know is where was the media in all this? When those texts were first released I figured it was an open and shut case. Then you didn't hear any more about it until now. When the media harks on something they never let it go. I guess a woman threatening to ruin an NFL player doesn't cut it.

 

[VACowboy]

This was likely done so Goodall can handle the appeal. Get ready for it to remain at 6 games.

If you're right about that, it's a pretty crappy way to do business. As Stephen A. so eloquently put it, the issue here is the length of the suspension. By giving Zeke six games the commissioner is not just taking away six game checks. He's telling the world, "Ezekiel Elliott is a woman beater." And the fact that he is doing this without hearing the testimony himself is unconscionable. So he'll hear the appeal and maybe reduce the suspension. The damage is already done.

I actually heard something pretty interesting today. Someone said, and I can't remember who it was, that Zeke's chances in court are much better than Tom Brady's were. Brady lost because he was suspended for infracting the CBA. According to this person, the issue is not the same for Zeke. I also think that Mike Florio made a very good point when he reminded us all of the multiple falsifications made by MaryJo White during the bounty gate investigation. It's not just the accuser's credibility in question here.

Well stated. I think many of us would feel the same way Zeke does if everything was investigated by the authorities and then he finds himself " branded " due to the ungodly power Goodell has been given . I don't think the players reps ever thought they would be dealing with this type of " he said/she said" justice.

Seems like the commissioner only cares about half of what she said.

 

[logan]

What I want to know is where was the media in all this? When those texts were first released I figured it was an open and shut case. Then you didn't hear any more about it until now. When the media harks on something they never let it go. I guess a woman threatening to ruin an NFL player doesn't cut it.

If only Zeke was a Muslim transgender illegal immigrant, then they might care.