Goose: Did the Cowboys just find their next Tony Romo?

Deep_Freeze

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we are both agreeing. Whether its a solid back up or a developing, its a back up who understands hes a back up. Thats ok in this league but some teams never mentally prep the player to understand he ll be the back up.

Yeah I got you, don't know about this Rush guy, but I would like to see us take a 4th or 5th round QB next year. We thought Weeden was a solid backup, Cassel same thing, they weren't.

I just don't want a solid backup, cause they usually suck. Rather be developing a QB who is an actual asset to the team in trade or if Dak goes down.
 

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FRISCO -- It's time for the Cowboys to find the next Tony Romo.

No, not the Tony Romo who went to four Pro Bowls and won an NFL passing title in 2014. That was the finished-product Tony Romo. The Cowboys are hoping they've already found that guy in Dak Prescott.

It's time for the Cowboys to find another unfinished Tony Romo -- the undrafted college free agent signed in 2003 who spent three years in a quarterbacking incubator watching and learning how the position should be played.

It's time for the Cowboys to invest in another project worth developing.

Which is why Cooper Rush intrigues me.

During the years I spent researching the draft as the NFL columnist for this newspaper, I learned several position traits that the pros find attractive.

Quarterbacks who started four years in college and threw at least 1,300 career passes are worthy of long looks because they already have been exposed to everything the college game has to offer. It's a much smaller step from NCAA Saturdays to NFL Sundays for them.

Cooper Rush fits that profile. The Cowboys signed him as an undrafted free agent out of Central Michigan, where he was a four-year starter who threw 1,648 passes. He started 50 games and passed for 12,891 yards and 90 touchdowns. He sits ahead of NFLers Ben Roethlisberger, Chad Pennington and Byron Leftwich on the all-time Mid-American Conference passing list.

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Reminds me of Denver's Trevor Simien. Could be the backup we need. I don't like Moore to be the backup for the sole reason that he's got the body build of a Junior High starting QB. God forbid something happens to Dak and the season goes down the toilet, like in 2015 when we had no backups which included Moore BTW.
 

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i would agree with this, but mental is the name of the game and if your QB is jittery or your coach is jittery , than to many head aches are coming up. What if one QB has a better arm but no brains? Back and forth it can go. Whos the better QB by what standards? Dak had an incredible rookie season, im not changing him up because the FO or Garrett THINKS they have a better QB or one aspect he mgiht excel at.


This is why i wanted Dak played, it takes a lot to know if you have a franchise QB and we finally found one. Work with him ad get the team rolling .

Tony can walk onto many teams and be claimed a better QB, but Tony has turn over issues. Is that worth changing up a known starter for? Depends on your philosphy, or how long you want to be coach for. You take a guy like Favre vs a guy like River Phillips, both are good at something but Farve lives and dies by the sword. Depends on the coach. My take is, dont fix if its not broken and Dak isnt broken yet.

Fair?
Reading drivel like this makes my brain hurt. Tony has "turn over" issues and even though he was the starter here for a decade, only now did we finally find a franchise QB. Oh and "Farve" is more or less equal to "River Phillips". You learn something new every day.
 
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I totally agree on your assessment of Moore's arm strength and knowledge of the NFL game. He is destined to be an NFL QB coach me thinks.
It would not bother me at all to see the Cowboys give Wade Wilson the heave-ho and give the job to a retired Kellen Moore when the time comes.
 

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It would not bother me at all to see the Cowboys give Wade Wilson the heave-ho and give the job to a retired Kellen Moore when the time comes.

Man, do I like and concur with your thinking.
 

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Rush fills in a lot of the blanks - his college stats even look like Romo's in terms of completion percentage, though it worries me a little bit that his percentage dropped from 66% to 59% from his junior to senior season in an offense that has a lot of short, pre-defined throws that should lead to a high completion percentage.

Where he needs to show something is in making the deep out throws. His ball seems to hang a bit in the air, and he won't get away with that in the NFL. Between the numbers? He's accurate. Outside the numbers? Has something to prove.

I think he's worth considering developing on the PS. I have higher hopes for him than Austin Appleby, whose accuracy leaves a lot to be desired.
 

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Of course! He fumbled that field goal hold, he threw a handfull of pick sixes with the playoffs on the line etc. ...oh wait, that was romo! You know the guy we were talking about, you know the guy on the bench with the fat cheeks and the kissy face from trying to squeeze them in?

Dak qb'd the gb game and unlike the chubby choker, he has not choked away any big games, been stellar!

So until he starts throwing game ending soul crushing season ending interceptions please dont compare Dak to that pudgy loser!!!!
He did throw a pivotal interception in the GB game and matched Romo's career playoff interception total minus a game ending hail mary in 1 game.
 
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Why Moore?
Dak gave huge kudos to Kellen Moore least year in terms of preparation, game planning and the like. Moore spent tkns of time teaching Dak how to watch film as well. Dak gave more positive things to say about Kellen Moore than he did about Romo.

Moore lacks the talent level to be a big time NFL QB. But he seems to have the intelligence and coaching qualities to be a capable QB coach.

Dak has a good relationship with Moore and I think they would make a very good player/coach combination.
 

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We cannot say that Tony Romo was responsible for losing playoff games. It doesn't matter anyway unless your position is that Tony was a terrible quarterback. That would be a tough position to defend.

However, of your position is that Tony Romo was not a great quarterback then it would be a legitimate point to mention that Tony Romo was never responsible for a playoff victory That would be a major part of the criteria.

Simply being the starting quarterback is not good enough to claim greatness. You must make the play at that point in the game where your season is over if you don't.

Tony Romo has never made that play.

In the only two playoff victories the deciding factors were defense, penalties, and the running game

In the first playoff victory the Eagles could never compete, Cowboy defense was all over them. In the Lion Game of 2014 the first of only two Cowboy drives went fron 1st and 10 in the Lion 18 to a 51 yard field goal. The Cowboys were saved in the second drive when they were stopped on 4th down and a Lion was penalized, giving the Cowboys and Romo new life.

Tony Romo was a good quarterback but never good enough to carry a team in his shoulders to anywhere other than the offseason.

There will never be another "Tony Romo" situation. There was never one before in NFL history. No other QB in NFL history became a starter for the season after never throwing a single pass in his first 3 years. Only one other QB became a starter after two seasons of zero action.

It is no coincidence that they had the same HC, as if Jerry had anything to do with it. Jerry would have thrown Romo to the wolves and ruined his development in the first season.

By the way, that other quarterback was Jeff Hostetler. He started their 1990 Super Bowl. It was the 7th career start for him.
 

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We cannot say that Tony Romo was responsible for losing playoff games. It doesn't matter anyway unless your position is that Tony was a terrible quarterback. That would be a tough position to defend.

However, of your position is that Tony Romo was not a great quarterback then it would be a legitimate point to mention that Tony Romo was never responsible for a playoff victory That would be a major part of the criteria.

Simply being the starting quarterback is not good enough to claim greatness. You must make the play at that point in the game where your season is over if you don't.

Tony Romo has never made that play.

In the only two playoff victories the deciding factors were defense, penalties, and the running game

In the first playoff victory the Eagles could never compete, Cowboy defense was all over them. In the Lion Game of 2014 the first of only two Cowboy drives went fron 1st and 10 in the Lion 18 to a 51 yard field goal. The Cowboys were saved in the second drive when they were stopped on 4th down and a Lion was penalized, giving the Cowboys and Romo new life.

Tony Romo was a good quarterback but never good enough to carry a team in his shoulders to anywhere other than the offseason.

There will never be another "Tony Romo" situation. There was never one before in NFL history. No other QB in NFL history became a starter for the season after never throwing a single pass in his first 3 years. Only one other QB became a starter after two seasons of zero action.

It is no coincidence that they had the same HC, as if Jerry had anything to do with it. Jerry would have thrown Romo to the wolves and ruined his development in the first season.

By the way, that other quarterback was Jeff Hostetler. He started their 1990 Super Bowl. It was the 7th career start for him.

It always amuses me when posters like you seem to think there is only one person on the field. And as usual you are wrong.
 

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Dak gave huge kudos to Kellen Moore least year in terms of preparation, game planning and the like. Moore spent tkns of time teaching Dak how to watch film as well. Dak gave more positive things to say about Kellen Moore than he did about Romo.

Moore lacks the talent level to be a big time NFL QB. But he seems to have the intelligence and coaching qualities to be a capable QB coach.

Dak has a good relationship with Moore and I think they would make a very good player/coach combination.

Pretty sure Dak is positive about everything. That is just who he is. Just because he talked about Moore in certain aspects isn't a knock on Romo.
 

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FRISCO -- It's time for the Cowboys to find the next Tony Romo.

No, not the Tony Romo who went to four Pro Bowls and won an NFL passing title in 2014. That was the finished-product Tony Romo. The Cowboys are hoping they've already found that guy in Dak Prescott.

It's time for the Cowboys to find another unfinished Tony Romo -- the undrafted college free agent signed in 2003 who spent three years in a quarterbacking incubator watching and learning how the position should be played.

It's time for the Cowboys to invest in another project worth developing.

Which is why Cooper Rush intrigues me.

During the years I spent researching the draft as the NFL columnist for this newspaper, I learned several position traits that the pros find attractive.

Quarterbacks who started four years in college and threw at least 1,300 career passes are worthy of long looks because they already have been exposed to everything the college game has to offer. It's a much smaller step from NCAA Saturdays to NFL Sundays for them.

Cooper Rush fits that profile. The Cowboys signed him as an undrafted free agent out of Central Michigan, where he was a four-year starter who threw 1,648 passes. He started 50 games and passed for 12,891 yards and 90 touchdowns. He sits ahead of NFLers Ben Roethlisberger, Chad Pennington and Byron Leftwich on the all-time Mid-American Conference passing list.

https://sportsday.***BANNED-URL***/...ny-romo-qb-sure-looks-like-names-dak-prescott

LOL....:lmao2:

Kellen Moore WON 50 games in college!!!!!
 

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I like what I've seen but the odds of catching lightning twice is pretty far fetched. Romo is one of the best undrafted players of all time. Hard to believe we get another undrafted QB that good.
 
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