Goose gives Dallas a D

eduncan22;1481788 said:
Stanback if very raw when it comes to being an NFL WR.

I'd be surprised if he is even able to compete with any of our 5.

What team need does this pick help?

We should have gone NT or CB at that point.

We passed on our QB at round 1 - pick 22.

Well, we passed on Quinn cause we have Romo and we are going to go with him next year. If Romo does not pan out, well we have 2 1st round picks next year and can draft qb next year.
 
Goose is in a snit, so what else is new?

The Cowboys picked up an extra first-rounder in 2008, but that didn't help them in this draft. - Maybe he missed Jimmy Johnson's drafting two QBs back in 1989. It didn't help them in 89 either but it did later on.

Marten and Free are blue-collar blockers and those were two of the better picks. Big E was considered blue collar, it has been a few years but didn't he say the same about Larry Allen a long time ago?

Stanback is coming off a foot injury. Yeah which is why we got him where we did. He was a pretty good athlete before his injury and would have gone higher without it. Maybe a bust or maybe a diamond in the rough but it isn't anything new happening in the draft.
 
Marktui;1481921 said:
Well, we passed on Quinn cause we have Romo and we are going to go with him next year. If Romo does not pan out, well we have 2 1st round picks next year and can draft qb next year.

you're "arguing" with mr never happy. he uses NFL Network as his source for info on grading the draft and since we picked cb's late in the day, we never covered that "glaring hole". however, QB *was* a position of need and as you can see, we covered it.

now i know - most rational people will simply say that qb isn't a position of need this year, and even if it was, drafting a qb to be converted to WR won't fill the need - but hey - that's his bible here.
 
eduncan22;1481788 said:
Stanback if very raw when it comes to being an NFL WR.

I'd be surprised if he is even able to compete with any of our 5.

What team need does this pick help?
IMO, none of the wide receivers in this draft would have stepped in and IMMEDIATELY unseat Owens or Glenn.

We're down to "any of our 3".

Crayton is our legitimate #3 receiver. If Stanback can't step in this season, compete with Crayton and steal (at least) a few snaps away from him, you're right. He will be a wasted 4th round draft pick.

We're down to "any of our 2".

If YOU honestly believe that Stanback can't step in at this point and compete with Austin or Hurd, well, I'll have to be content that you believe that he's the next incarnation of Skyler Green. Me? I'll settle for the next coming of Crayton with speed. I do have the added inclination to wait-and-see what will happen, unlike yourself.

eduncan22;1481788 said:
We should have gone NT or CB at that point.
"At that point"?

4th round?

All of the top rated CBs were off the board (even your bad boy, Eric Wright). Arguably, from that point until Mr. Irrelevant, you ended up with equal value with the Brown pick.

eduncan22;1481788 said:
We passed on our QB at round 1 - pick 22.
sigh

Okay, let's say we draft Quinn at #22. That means we scrap Romo long-term, possibly sitting him down before the end of THIS season, and install Quinn as starter.

In YOUR opinion, what sort of timetable would you put Quinn on to led this team to the playoffs and possibly a Super Bowl berth?

* insert Jeopardy theme here *
 
DallasEast;1482006 said:
Okay, let's say we draft Quinn at #22. That means we scrap Romo long-term, possibly sitting him down before the end of THIS season, and install Quinn as starter.

In YOUR opinion, what sort of timetable would you put Quinn on to led this team to the playoffs and possibly a Super Bowl berth?

* insert Jeopardy theme here *

Our backup QB is "50 years old."

How can we simply pass on a blue chip QB and just "laugh it off?"

Is Romo the answer? Probably.
 
He seems to think if you didn't have a second round pick your draft sucks.

He gave the Cowboys a D, Jets a C, and that Pats a D. Yet the Dolphins draft Ginn with the 9th overall pick and they got a B. The Browns drafted one of the top 3 players in the draft and picked up Quinn and Wright and still only got a B.

WTH is up with that? Did he grade this after watching both full days of the draft without sleeping?
 
nyc;1482039 said:
He seems to think if you didn't have a second round pick your draft sucks.

He gave the Cowboys a D, Jets a C, and that Pats a D. Yet the Dolphins draft Ginn with the 9th overall pick and they got a B. The Browns drafted one of the top 3 players in the draft and picked up Quinn and Wright and still only got a B.

WTH is up with that? Did he grade this after watching both full days of the draft without sleeping?

The 'Fins passed on Brady, when they desperately needed a QB.

That's why they are the Dolphins. :cool:
 
USA Today gave the Cowboys three stars (out of four), but they gave Carolina two stars. I think Carolina had one of the better drafts.
 
eduncan22;1482038 said:
Our backup QB is "50 years old."

How can we simply pass on a blue chip QB and just "laugh it off?"

Is Romo the answer? Probably.


He is starting to sound like the Wonder twins .....
 
eduncan22;1482038 said:
How can we simply pass on a blue chip QB and just "laugh it off?"

you mean like the other 21 teams ahead of us did? And most of those teams did not have a pro bowl QB last year.

You have a very silly argument.
 
eduncan22;1482038 said:
Our backup QB is "50 years old."

How can we simply pass on a blue chip QB and just "laugh it off?"

Is Romo the answer? Probably.
You do know that the Jeopardy theme stopped playing a looooong time ago, right? Here's the very (simple) question again:

In YOUR opinion, what sort of timetable would you put Quinn on to led this team to the playoffs and possibly a Super Bowl berth?

Now, to your earlier responses:

1. Brad Johnson is 38 or 39 years old. That's old for any player in the NFL. You don't have to artificially inflate the man's age to get your point across. :rolleyes:

2. Who's laughing at bypassing Quinn at #22? Who? The voices in your head?

No one is laughing. As a result of trading with the Browns, we profited by adding a very good 3-4 OLB projected for the first round in the first round who fits our scheme perfectly.

You constantly harp on team need. For a first round pick, the level of team need Saturday was equal between QB and LB. Notice that I didn't say that WR or CB wasn't a greater perceived team need with the first pick. This is an issue with you between the choice that fell in Dallas' lap, which you wanted after it materialized, and the choice made by the franchise.

The team need at QB and LB were equal. The franchise's choice in Spencer equates to an almost immediate improvement of the defense. Your choice in Quinn is not for the offense was not going to be an immediate improvement. The franchise (Jones & Phillips) thinks that the Super Bowl is within their grasp now. That's why they picked Spencer and that's why they didn't pick Quinn.

3. You ask, "Is Romo the answer"? That question hasn't been answered yet. The franchise believes it knows what they have in Romo, but Saturday they asked themselves at #22, "Is Quinn the answer"? They said no. For the Dallas Cowboys, that's the end of story. Then again, some haven't come to grips with Randy Moss yet.



Remember, final Jeopardy is almost upon you. :)
 
cowboyz;1480769 said:
denver D
NE D
chargers D
washington D

apart from washington, which had no draft, that's not exactly bad company to keep.

Wow....both Dallas and New England get an extra first next year......i expect nothing less than an A from him for us and NE in next years draft.
 
I could care LESS about any grades given right now. Give us a grade in 3 years and i'll be ready to listen
 
zrinkill;1482054 said:
He is starting to sound like the Wonder twins .....

you never get rid of the worst, you just redefine it. so when you get rid of the stupidest one out there, someone always rises up to take his place.

all hail the new king.
 
zrinkill;1482056 said:
you mean like the other 21 teams ahead of us did? And most of those teams did not have a pro bowl QB last year.

You are silly.

there zrin - fixed it for you.
 
This isn't rocket science. Grade a draft 3 years after it happens, not 1 day. I don't care what anyone says - good/bad/ or indifferent..........means nothing to me.
 

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