Got to love them Pats and their headsets

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Sorry, but cheating is still cheating.

For example, a golfer could play with an undersized golf ball and win a lot of tournaments. And then get caught using that undersized golf ball and then be forced to play with a regulation size golf ball and win more events. The golfer still cheated. Nothing will change that fact.
Except the "golfer" wasn't really cheating in the first place and the fact that he kept winning helps prove that.
 

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Except the "golfer" wasn't really cheating in the first place and the fact that he kept winning helps prove that.

No, Brady was cheating. The science and the texts prove it. Doesn't take Sherlock Holmes to figure it out. You're either cheating or you're not cheating and Brady...cheated.






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Well the headsets are made by Bose, which is a MA based company and they did do most of their research and testing at Gillette Stadium. If there was a place where someone would know how to directly interfere with the sideline controller for the team it would probably be there.
The above post is the textbook example of how pathetic these allegations are and how far you need to twist, bend and stretch just to try and come up with something still fails at appearing improper.
 

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No, Brady was cheating. The science and the texts prove it. Doesn't take Sherlock Holmes to figure it out. You're either cheating or you're not cheating and Brady...cheated.






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You can interpret texts however you want but the science proved the balls were exactly within the range of where they were expected to be based on the atmospheric conditions.

Please do try to keep up with the facts a bit better going forward. TIA.

I know it hurts. Just let it go, my friend. Let go of your anger and jealousy.
 

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The Pats are both an incredibly well coached team with a talented roster, and a team led by a couple of cheats. Those two things aren't mutually exclusive. You can appreciate the talent and still completely disrespect the complete lack of integrity.

There's no excuse to be blind to the repeated cheating, though.
 

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This thread is EVERYTHING I thought it would be and more. Keep it going, please!

Very entertaining.
 

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If that were true, there would be just as much talk about the Jets (tampering), the Browns (illegal communications) and the Falcons (pumped in crowd noise) in this forum.

But nobody is talking about those teams because there's no jealousy of those teams. Which proves it isn't about cheating, it's about winning.

Don't hate the playa, sweetheart, hate the game.

you crack me up! I'll see your Pats in a few weeks. I expect the Texans will get pasted but well HEY TOM MEET JJ!
 

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Breaking news: the Patriots cheat a lot. More at 11.

Everyone can see that. Except Rogah. He's blind to anything anti-Patriot football.

At least he quit acting like he was a Dallas fan. So score one for the regulars on here.
The Pats are both an incredibly well coached team with a talented roster, and a team led by a couple of cheats. Those two things aren't mutually exclusive. You can appreciate the talent and still completely disrespect the complete lack of integrity.

There's no excuse to be blind to the repeated cheating, though.

Not according to the CZ board's Pats lover. IF you hate the Pats it's because you're a jealous person who just hates on them because well they're so great and you're just jealous of greatness.

He's blind as a bat when it comes to the Pats cheating. He doesn't see it. Everyone else on here does. It's that "soft spot" Rogah has for NE.

You know that soft spot that allows him to come up with calling Roger "Rogah"...that soft spot.
 

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Everyone can see that. Except Rogah. He's blind to anything anti-Patriot football.

At least he quit acting like he was a Dallas fan. So score one for the regulars on here.


Not according to the CZ board's Pats lover. IF you hate the Pats it's because you're a jealous person who just hates on them because well they're so great and you're just jealous of greatness.

He's blind as a bat when it comes to the Pats cheating. He doesn't see it. Everyone else on here does. It's that "soft spot" Rogah has for NE.

You know that soft spot that allows him to come up with calling Roger "Rogah"...that soft spot.

If he really thinks the Pats don't cheat, then the soft spot is on the top of his head. I kid, I kid.

Deep down, he knows better, though. It's why he protests too much when anybody calls it out.

By the way, thank you for explaining the accent on his screen name. All these years and I had completely whiffed on that. That's pretty cool, actually, for a guy from Boston.
 

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You admitted these things happen more often than you realize in other places to other teams.

That's really the point I've made. Thank you for supporting it.

Clearly you have no idea what i admitted, considering you responded before reading anything..

Nobody ever argued that issues can happen in communication, but they clearly don't happen as much as get do in Gillette... Straw-man much?
 

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It hurts, doesn't it? I mean really hurts that Brady is playing as well as ever and the Patriots are fumbling less at home this year than last year. I know you were praying they would play poorly to justify all the made-up faux deflategate outrage.

Let go of your anger my friend. Respect greatness, don't fear it.

Still getting away with lots of illegal picks...

They were leading the league in them, but by your logic that means that they are getting flagged as often as they should be..

Obviously the NFL does whatever it can to protect the shady legacy..

So the NFL is challenging the process ruling... Convenient it's delayed until next year... Like the Wells Report after the draft and so on..
 

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If that were true, there would be just as much talk about the Jets (tampering), the Browns (illegal communications) and the Falcons (pumped in crowd noise) in this forum.

But nobody is talking about those teams because there's no jealousy of those teams. Which proves it isn't about cheating, it's about winning.

Don't hate the playa, sweetheart, hate the game.

You forgot the one about the malicious Vikings illegally putting footballs in front of heaters in blatant outright cheating and disregard for the rules.
 

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You can interpret texts however you want but the science proved the balls were exactly within the range of where they were expected to be based on the atmospheric conditions.

Please do try to keep up with the facts a bit better going forward. TIA.

I know it hurts. Just let it go, my friend. Let go of your anger and jealousy.

The 'science' didn't prove anything.

Where the balls underinflated?

Yes.

Did the texts show McNally and Jastremski discussing deflating the footballs on the behest of Tom Brady for payment?

Yes.

And did McNally sneak off into the bathroom with the footballs in tow, breaking NFL protocol and giving himself the chance to deflate the footballs?

Yes.

That's a motive, that's a plan to break the rules and that's evidence of breaking the rules.

I'm not the one that's angry because I'm not the one that wrongly debated Warren Sharp's statistics of the Patriots. And I'm not the one saying that Brady's fumble rate is lower this year...when it's not (6 fumbles all last year vs. 5 already this year). And I'm not the one that said I would accept whatever the NFL's rulings were, no matter what, and then flip-flopped when it didn't suit my agenda.




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Not according to the people in here. According to the people in here, they never get punished by the league.

I wouldn't exactly call handing out a couple of small fines as punishment by the league. That's a slap on the wrist. Maybe if they were losing draft picks and cap space would it be considers punishment by the league. Meaning it has a negative impact on the team, for always pushing the legal envelope.
 

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They're either good at cheating, or just good in general. Either way, I doubt any fan of any team would trade in a championship for the moral high ground.
 

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They're either good at cheating, or just good in general. Either way, I doubt any fan of any team would trade in a championship for the moral high ground.

They're both. And a team I'd never cheer for under any circumstance. Dallas never cheated to win their trophies. That's what everyone here has been saying for months. We were just good.
 

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I wouldn't exactly call handing out a couple of small fines as punishment by the league. That's a slap on the wrist. Maybe if they were losing draft picks and cap space would it be considers punishment by the league. Meaning it has a negative impact on the team, for always pushing the legal envelope.
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