Greg Jennings: "Daniel Jones is a top-10 quarterback, he's better than Dak Prescott."

CATCH17 said:
Im not dissing anyone.

Dak and Daniel Jones are both solid QBs. Very similar at throwing the ball but you have to give Jones the edge because he’s a way better runner than Dak.

Neither guy is worth their salary and will make it nearly impossible for their team to win a championship because they got next man up paid instead of actually being legit.
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No, I don’t have to give Jones the edge because he “runs better”. The Cowboys seem to discourage Dak running, because they don’t want injury. Plus, I think Dak is still a better passer. The stats support this. He’s not elite, but he’s better than Jones. Jennings is merely chumming for clicks.

Running QBs don’t last. Ask Cam Newton, RG3, Lamar Jackson, etc.
 
BoyzBlaster said:
You're kind of all over the place and I'm not sure what your point or points are. I don't think we are going to get anywhere if you think Dak and Jones are that different so far in their careers. Yes Dak has a lot of regular season stats that mean exactly nothing (to me, maybe not to you) and back to back choke jobs in the playoffs, and a losing record in the playoffs. I wouldn't take either guy, but at least Jones appears to be getting better, has a better record than Dak in the playoffs, and won a road playoff game as an underdog last year. Dak seems like he is actually getting worse not better, and he was always fairly limited to begin with.
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I'm not all over the place lol. I'm arguing against your claims.

Daniel Jones and Dak are completely different. They don't play alike, their careers are nothing like....the only thing they have in common is they both play in the NFC East.

And you can say Dak's tats mean nothing in the regular season but it means something when you STINK in the regular season. And Daniel Jones has STUNK most of his career. And he comes from a organization that has shown and proven to build a winner in the 2000's unlike Jerry and co. so I Dont' want to hear about how bad that franchise is if that's something you want to lean on.

Dak has back to back choke jobs. Fair enough. What in the HELL does Daniel Jones have? does he not have back to back choke jobs? Except he couldn't even get in the playoffs last year. Just a weird take. Very odd.

If you started your sentence with "I wouldn't take either guy"....fair enough. End it there. But then you end it with "BUT....". There's always a "but" lol.

It appears that Daniel Jones is getting better because he sucked lol. Dak came into the league and had a season better than anything Daniel Jones has ever had. So Dak immediately came in and set a high bar. So yes, 2400 yards and 10 TD's and 7 interception....yes....he's getting better lol.

Its just odd man....his team sucks its his teams fault. The team is good its him lol.

For the record Daboll seems to be a good coach. I suspect we won't see how good he can be until he gets someone better than Daniel Jones.
 
ESisback said:
No, I don’t have to give Jones the edge because he “runs better”. The Cowboys seem to discourage Dak running, because they don’t want injury. Plus, I think Dak is still a better passer. The stats support this. He’s not elite, but he’s better than Jones. Jennings is merely chumming for clicks.

Running QBs don’t last. Ask Cam Newton, RG3, Lamar Jackson, etc.
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I was gonna say....Jones doesn't run better he just runs because he's not that good of a passer lol.
 
CATCH17 said:
Im not dissing anyone.

Dak and Daniel Jones are both solid QBs. Very similar at throwing the ball but you have to give Jones the edge because he’s a way better runner than Dak.

Neither guy is worth their salary and will make it nearly impossible for their team to win a championship because they got next man up paid instead of actually being legit.
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Dak's salary isn't why they can't win a SB lol. Unless you think Dak is as bad as he showed in the 49ers game.

I agree both are solid. But where you lose me is "very similar at throwing the ball". There's no way in hell you can really believe that. No way. That claim is almost as egregious as your claim Micah Parsons was the next Jaylon Smith. Its just insane.

And its not even that Daniel Jones is a good runner. HE simply runs more because his arm isn't good enough to win with. And I'd argue Dak himself isn't a great runner either. But one guy NEEDS to run. The other doesn't but probably should do it more.
 
USArmyVet said:
Daniel Jones played in 16 regular season games whereas Dak played in 12. The stats for Dak posted were his regular season games.....so you were wrong with the QB Rating stats and you are wrong in games played. Have a nice day.
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I'm sorry I meant Daniel Jones played in 18 games and Dan played in 14 games. I sent you the link. Either you can chose to be obtuse because you're embarrassed and look like an idiot or you can just say your mistake and move on. I made a mistake and shorted Jones's games. Admit your mistake and move on.
 
TheMarathonContinues said:
That's the thing though....Daniel Jones hasn't had a terrible group. Maybe I overrated them but I had Giants making the playoffs because they had Toney, Golladay, Slayton and Sheperd.....nevermind Barkley. Then the year prior had Evan Engram, Golladay, Slayton......Golladay was well respected until he got to NY. A guy known for having a good catch radius can't even catch balls?

I don't think Jones is bad. As I said above I looked at him as a guy who had a good season. A lot of those guys were there last season.....Geno, Goff, Daniel....to me these guys were great because we expected NOTHING. But if we start raising the bar? I feel we will be let down more than not.
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Well, that's why I started my last post with, we'll see. Because I'm not even totally sure. But I always thought of him as a decent QB. A good step above QBs like Darnold. But we'll see how he does with a better team around him. But it's not fair to compare him to a QB that clearly has a better team around him. There is no such thing as QBs battling head to head. It doesn't exist.
 
TheMarathonContinues said:
I'm sorry I meant Daniel Jones played in 18 games and Dan played in 14 games. I sent you the link. Either you can chose to be obtuse because you're embarrassed and look like an idiot or you can just say your mistake and move on. I made a mistake and shorted Jones's games. Admit your mistake and move on.
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Look like an idiot? That from one of those that need a bib when discussing Dak? Go focus on your Dakshake as you post BS stats and then try and say someone else was wrong.
 
Flamma said:
Well, that's why I started my last post with, we'll see. Because I'm not even totally sure. But I always thought of him as a decent QB. A good step above QBs like Darnold. But we'll see how he does with a better team around him. But it's not fair to compare him to a QB that clearly has a better team around him. There is no such thing as QBs battling head to head. It doesn't exist.
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I agree but what's what is done lol. People compare QB's. Nobody says Jalen Hurts had to face the Chiefs defense and that Mahomes had to face the Eagles defense....they say Hurts had the better stats and outplayed him aside from the fumble. Its just how it is.

I also don't think the Cowboys have been that much better than the Giants in talent to say one "clearly" has a better team around him. Dak has had a better line for sure. And that does mean something. It also means something to have Saquon Barkley and he's never used the offensive line excuse to still produce. The guy is simply just good at what he does.

But we will see. I hope he's great. The greater he is the better the division will be and the better the competition will be. I think we just saw his ceiling and I guess that's where I differ. And that ceiling wasn't even that great.
 
I mean I don’t know about Daniel Jones being too 10 but he’s better than Dak
 
USArmyVet said:
Look like an idiot? That from one of those that need a bib when discussing Dak? Go focus on your Dakshake as you post BS stats and then try and say someone else was wrong.
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I literally said Dak had a better 2022 season than Jones....and your comprehension missed I said SEASON not REGULAR SEASON lol. So now I'm wrong. I think you're embarrassed. Its really not that big of a deal. Playas mess up. But for your this is personal. I really was minding my own business and you claimed I Was "spewing BS". You came with a negative energy this beautiful Saturday morning. Positive vibes only.
 
CATCH17 said:
Im not dissing anyone.

Dak and Daniel Jones are both solid QBs. Very similar at throwing the ball but you have to give Jones the edge because he’s a way better runner than Dak.

Neither guy is worth their salary and will make it nearly impossible for their team to win a championship because they got next man up paid instead of actually being legit.
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No player is worth that kind of money. Current market value gave Dak 40, Jones 50. Lamar Jackson wants more, and it will continue to go up. An argument for who’s legit can be made for anyone. I’d prefer not to waste my time. I just hope my Cowboys do well.
 
TheMarathonContinues said:
I agree but what's what is done lol. People compare QB's. Nobody says Jalen Hurts had to face the Chiefs defense and that Mahomes had to face the Eagles defense....they say Hurts had the better stats and outplayed him aside from the fumble. Its just how it is.

I also don't think the Cowboys have been that much better than the Giants in talent to say one "clearly" has a better team around him. Dak has had a better line for sure. And that does mean something. It also means something to have Saquon Barkley and he's never used the offensive line excuse to still produce. The guy is simply just good at what he does.

But we will see. I hope he's great. The greater he is the better the division will be and the better the competition will be. I think we just saw his ceiling and I guess that's where I differ. And that ceiling wasn't even that great.
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I don't think Jones is that good. No way I would have given him that contract. Not a chance. But I think he is a decent QB, but replaceable. I just don't think the gap between Jones and Dak is that big. Neither QB is top tier. Neither QB will sniff the hall of fame. Neither QB can pull his cap hit without it being restructured. But I don't even like Jalen Hurts. No way would I pay him until I can see how he does against pass coverage. But the Eagles are just looking to win now.
 
ESisback said:
No player is worth that kind of money. Current market value gave Dak 40, Jones 50. Lamar Jackson wants more, and it will continue to go up. An argument for who’s legit can be made for anyone. I’d prefer not to waste my time. I just hope my Cowboys do well.
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Truly elite QBs who can overcome roster deficiencies are worth that kind of money.


These others QBs like Dak shouldn’t be taking up more than 10% of the cap because they require so much in order to win a title.


Paying a Dak just screams we are on with being relevant and don’t care about championships.


Lamar is a whole different problem with several factors. Mainly he wants a fully guaranteed deal and the guy is a runner who is high risk to get hurt just like this past season.
 
TheMarathonContinues said:
I literally said Dak had a better 2022 season than Jones....and your comprehension missed I said SEASON not REGULAR SEASON lol. So now I'm wrong. I think you're embarrassed. Its really not that big of a deal. Playas mess up. But for your this is personal. I really was minding my own business and you claimed I Was "spewing BS". You came with a negative energy this beautiful Saturday morning. Positive vibes only.
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I agree, positive....as in you and a few others are positively BS spreaders with your inaccurate stats and attempted cover-ups.
 
Daniel Jones had a really good year last year despite having no real WRs. I can see the argument that he was better than Dak. But it was one year. in prior years he was awful. Let's see how he does in 2023. If he repeats what he did last year and so does Dak, I think the argument is going to be very strong in favor of Jones.
 
CATCH17 said:
Truly elite QBs who can overcome roster deficiencies are worth that kind of money.


These others QBs like Dak shouldn’t be taking up more than 10% of the cap because they require so much in order to win a title.
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So basically you believe only Mahomes is the only one who should get that kind of money?
 
cowboys5xsbs said:


Greg Jennings took one too many hits to the head
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Never heard or knew of "The Carton Show".
Greg Jennings....went to 'Pro Football Reference' to refresh my memory.
Pretty good Packers WR - the last few seasons with Farve and the first few seasons with Rodgers.
Seen him on the tv sports shows a few times.
 
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