Greg Jennings: "Daniel Jones is a top-10 quarterback, he's better than Dak Prescott."

[TheMarathonContinues]

Daniel Jones had a really good year last year despite having no real WRs. I can see the argument that he was better than Dak. But it was one year. in prior years he was awful. Let's see how he does in 2023. If he repeats what he did last year and so does Dak, I think the argument is going to be very strong in favor of Jones.

Did he not have receivers? Or are they just not household names?

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Never heard or knew of "The Carton Show".
Who is Greg Jennings?

Carlton Show is from Craig Carlton....he was on with Boomer Eaison for years until he had to go to jail. Gets out of jail and gets a radio gig again and a FS1 show. Must be nice lol.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

Greg Jennings took one too many hits to the head

Forget Dak

Is Jones better than

Mahomes
Burrow
Herbert
Rodgers
Lawrence
Hurts
Allen
Russell
Stafford
Goff
Murray
Cousins
Jackson
Geno
Tua
Carr

Lets compare it to them and then we can argue if he is better than Dak based on one year success, as he has been average and below average for so many years. Lost in his first ever playoffs to Vikings.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

You're kind of all over the place and I'm not sure what your point or points are. I don't think we are going to get anywhere if you think Dak and Jones are that different so far in their careers. Yes Dak has a lot of regular season stats that mean exactly nothing (to me, maybe not to you) and back to back choke jobs in the playoffs, and a losing record in the playoffs. I wouldn't take either guy, but at least Jones appears to be getting better, has a better record than Dak in the playoffs, and won a road playoff game as an underdog last year. Dak seems like he is actually getting worse not better, and he was always fairly limited to begin with.

I had to revisit this post...

Daniel Jones....his rookie season had 26 Touchdowns.....12 interceptions passing for 62% completion rate in only 13 games. In 16 Games in 2022, had 23 Touchdowns in 16 games while passing for 67% compeltion rate....you could argue he was better with a inferior team in 2019 his rookie year lol.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Forget Dak

Is Jones better than

Mahomes
Burrow
Herbert
Rodgers
Lawrence
Hurts
Allen
Russell
Stafford
Goff
Murray
Cousins
Jackson
Geno
Tua
Carr

Lets compare it to them and then we can argue if he is better than Dak based on one year success, as he has been average and below average for so many years. Lost in his first ever playoffs to Vikings.

I think if you take Dak out you will get trip opinions on the matter. But Dak for whatever reason brings the worst out lol. The guy just argued with me that the Giants were the 3rd best team in the NFC because they beat the Vikings and got their *** whooped by the Eagles lol.

 

[tromofan]

With the exception of a very few QBs, you're only as good as your supporting cast allows you to be. Daniel Jones has never had the receivers and offensive line that Dak has had (this past year coming the closest). Season ending injuries to Barkley in back to back years basically torpedoed any chances of him having any balance on offense. His O-lines paled in comparison to what the Cowboys had. In short, if they had switched teams, I doubt Dak would be a starter, and Jones would've taken us much further in the playoffs, if not a SB.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

With the exception of a very few QBs, you're only as good as your supporting cast allows you to be. Daniel Jones has never had the receivers and offensive line that Dak has had (this past year coming the closest). Season ending injuries to Barkley in back to back years basically torpedoed any chances of him having any balance on offense. His O-lines paled in comparison to what the Cowboys had. In short, if they had switched teams, I doubt Dak would be a starter, and Jones would've taken us much further in the playoffs, if not a SB.

That's crap. The reason why you guys don't think Daniel Jones had a supporting cast is because he sucked lol.

This conversation is funny though. So now Jason Garrett who couldn't;' get a SB with Dak or Romo would've won a ring with Daniel Jones lol? The same Daniel Jones that he coached and ultimately got fired? This is greatness lol.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

What a dumb thing to say.

Coming from you? I believe you truly think that.

 

[DallasEast]

Greg Jennings took one too many hits to the head

The transcript (Greg Jennings comments in bold)

Yes. And I'm going to say something that I have said.

Yes.

And I don't want to hear anything until the end of this. Daniel Jones is a top ten quarterback.

What?

Daniel Jones is a top ten quarterback.

Wow!

I said it.

In what league?

And I say it with my chest. Like John. What you just heard from John Mara. He obviously knows he sees, what he sees, but the progression is there. When we see guys progressing, we automatically want them to do it the way that Joe Burrow has done it. The way that Justin Herbert has done it. That wasn't Daniel Jones. And that's okay because he's gotten paid. He's going to keep his head down. He's going to continue to work. You bring in a guy like Darren Waller. Obviously you're going to improve. If he can stay healthy, he's a great asset to that offense. Daniel Jones production will continue to improve. He will be one of the better quarter...

You know you just said top 10

Hold hold. Let me. Let me.

Let's say one of the better.

Let me finish please. He will be the second best quarterback in his division.

Behind Jalen Hurts?

Behind Jalen Hurts.

So he's better than Dak Prescott?

He's better than Dak Prescott.

__________________________

To summarize, Jennings' opinion is:

• Daniel Jones is a top ten quarterback
• whose progression he does not define specifically
• reading between his lines, Darren Waller 'will help' Jones' progression
• Jones' contract 'supports' his viewpoint

The bulk is the usual, entirely sports talking head fluff leading to Jennings' prediction that Jones will eventually become the NFC East second best quarterback. He explains no applicable metric for this prediction. Without details, I assume it is based upon recent team seasonal advancement such as Philadelphia, led by Hurts, reaching the Super Bowl and Dallas, headed by Prescott, getting to the NFC Divisional round--which, coincidentally, the same round New York and Jones bowed out also.

If true, that undefined metric is team based, not individually based. Taking what seems to be his assumption a step further hypothetically. Let's say New York has a better season than both Philadelphia and Dallas in 2023. Perhaps not reach or win the Super Bowl but New York advancing further in the playoffs than those two rivals. Does the Giants' postseason finish ahead of the Eagles and Cowboys automatically make him the number one quarterback in the division, regardless of his actual productivity and performance?

Jennings could have made a more definitive argument. In the end, it is a minute of the customary gobbledy-gook audiences expect to get. And generate more than a page of conversation on a discussion board, lol.

 

[CATCH17]

So basically you believe only Mahomes is the only one who should get that kind of money?

Nah you gotta pay the guys capable of carrying a team because someone else will.

You can get the same results with Dak as you can with Cooper Rush and it’s easy to get a better QB than Cooper Rush.

We just lost to the 49ers because our offense couldn’t do squat and they trotted out the last pick in the draft. We had such a huge edge at QB and our guy was a weakness lol.

 

[KJJ]

Daniel Jones was in a make or break season last year and played pretty well. He earned himself a second contract. He had career highs in several categories and only had 5 INT’s. He had over 700 rushing yards with 7 rushing TDs. He’s been getting better while Dak has regressed. We’ll see how it goes next season.

 

[shabazz]

Nah you gotta pay the guys capable of carrying a team because someone else will.

You can get the same results with Dak as you can with Cooper Rush and it’s easy to get a better QB than Cooper Rush.

We just lost to the 49ers because our offense couldn’t do squat and they trotted out the last pick in the draft. We had such a huge edge at QB and our guy was a weakness lol.

There is little doubt in my mind that if we 39 years old Arron freaking Rodgers, we easily win that Niners game……no damn way that guy leaves the field with only 1 TD and 12 points…..no dam way

 

[Sydla]

LOL.

 

[CATCH17]

There is little doubt in my mind that if we 39 years old Arron freaking Rodgers, we easily win that Niners game……no damn way that guy leaves the field with only 1 TD and 12 points…..no dam way

Oh for sure.

Dak was a huge problem for us.

We’re back to that point of the off-season where we argue if Dak is good or not.

Of course he is good.

Our problem is we pay him to carry the team and he can’t do it and we can’t pay him and build the super team required.

So we just won’t win squat until he’s gone. That’s just the reality.

All the good QBs play in the AFC and we still couldn’t get to the Super Bowl.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Nah you gotta pay the guys capable of carrying a team because someone else will.

You can get the same results with Dak as you can with Cooper Rush and it’s easy to get a better QB than Cooper Rush.

We just lost to the 49ers because our offense couldn’t do squat and they trotted out the last pick in the draft. We had such a huge edge at QB and our guy was a weakness lol.

Dak played poorly but to me that’s not who Dak is. If I believed that to be him then I’d agree. Jim Kelly could never get past the Cowboys but that doesn’t mean I feel I could’ve got the same results from a bum.

We lost to the 49ers and we saw our QB was struggling we ran Zeke to provide relief. Bellicheat would never if he saw Mac Jones struggling.

But this goes back to my original point. Mahomes is the only guy we’ve seen carrying a team by himself…and that’s if you don’t give credit to Pacheco, McKinnon, Juju, Andy Reid, Kelce, Clark…..

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

There is little doubt in my mind that if we 39 years old Arron freaking Rodgers, we easily win that Niners game……no damn way that guy leaves the field with only 1 TD and 12 points…..no dam way

You think Rodgers would beat the 49ers but couldn’t beat the Lions to make the playoffs?

It only took 19 points because Dak sucked. Had he played better he was gonna have to put up 28 to 30 points.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Daniel Jones was in a make or break season last year and played pretty well. He earned himself a second contract. He had career highs in several categories and only had 5 INT’s. He had over 700 rushing yards with 7 rushing TDs. He’s been getting better while Dak has regressed. We’ll see how it goes next season.

He’s getting better but he had more touchdowns his rookie year and only in 13 games lol. Y’all are just saying **** now lol.

 

[KJJ]

Daniel Jones isnt good...and top 10 is laughable.....its painfully obvious when people force a hot take

Daniel Jones? top 10? he's easily 15-20 range in qbs and no GM willing to keep their job would take Him over Dak

To say Daniel Jones wasn’t good last season is wrong and you’re pretty much admitting it by saying he’s easily top 15-20. Jennings opinion is based on how Daniel Jones performed last season. I certainly don’t agree that Jones is a top 10 QB but he has improved which is why he got a fat contract extension. He had career highs in every category except TD passes. However, he had more than double the INT’s than he had this past season when he tossed 24 TDs his rookie year. Plus, he had 5 fewer rushing TDs his rookie season. Having Saquon Barkley for a full season certainly helped him. He had career highs in completion percentage, and passer rating this past season.

 

[CATCH17]

Dak played poorly but to me that’s not who Dak is. If I believed that to be him then I’d agree. Jim Kelly could never get past the Cowboys but that doesn’t mean I feel I could’ve got the same results from a bum.

We lost to the 49ers and we saw our QB was struggling we ran Zeke to provide relief. Bellicheat would never if he saw Mac Jones struggling.

But this goes back to my original point. Mahomes is the only guy we’ve seen carrying a team by himself…and that’s if you don’t give credit to Pacheco, McKinnon, Juju, Andy Reid, Kelce, Clark…..

We’re going into year 8 with Dak.

If you don’t understand what he is at this point then you’re ignoring what’s right in front of you.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

We’re going into year 8 with Dak.

If you don’t understand what he is at this point then you’re ignoring what’s right in front of you.

Exactly. And I’ve never seen him lead the league in interceptions. And if I allowed how long he’s been in the league to determine how good he is I’d probably have written off Geno Smith or Matthew Stafford. I can’t use an injury plagued year to determine this is him. My NFL knowledge won’t allow it.