Greg Jennings: "Daniel Jones is a top-10 quarterback, he's better than Dak Prescott."

[CATCH17]

Daniel Jones:

1/4 years where he surpassed 15 touchdown passes.

Career mid 80s passer rating.

6.7 avg career passing

This honestly shouldn't even be a discussion.

Context.


Dak has been in a optimal situation nearly his entire career.

Everyone knows that besides a few Cowboys fans who think a tackle missing a game or a WR1 getting traded is the equivalent of what Daniel Jones has had to deal with lol.

 

[Ranching]

I wish I was a crossing guard.... they all seem so happy.... I strive for that.

Don't tell anybody, but I was a crossing guard/safety patrol in elementary. Shhhh

 

[MountaineerCowboy]

No. That isnt true. You can believe and not be an idiot when it comes to betting. I am known by my group of friends to take really long shot bets that have little to no chance of paying out just to make the weekend more interesting. And I wouldnt take the bet you put forth because the odds are basically Dak and the Cowboys vs the entirety of the NFL. Its not a fair bet. The odds arent in his favour at all to make that bet.

That would be like me saying if you believe in Parsons put money on him winning DPOY. I would. But then you have him going up against a lot of other great defensive players that will be rushing the QB full time. Do you see what I am saying?

You woldn't take that bet because you don't believe in Dak.

It has nothing to do with the odds. We're not playing for money here. You simply don't believe in him.

If you really believed in him you would take my bet or get rid of the injury out in your bet. The last thing I want is for someone to come back and say "Man, Dak would've got those numbers if he didn't miss those few games, Oh well though". What's that remind you of?

The whole point of this is showing that the loudest of Dak supporters don't really believe in him like they pretend.

 

[phildadon86]

You woldn't take that bet because you don't believe in Dak.

It has nothing to do with the odds. We're not playing for money here. You simply don't believe in him.

If you really believed in him you would take my bet or get rid of the injury out in your bet. The last thing I want is for someone to come back and say "Man, Dak would've got those numbers if he didn't miss those few games, Oh well though". What's that remind you of?

The whole point of this is showing that the loudest of Dak supporters don't really believe in him like they pretend.

Ill take that bet without the injury clause. If you are serious that is. It definitely has to do with the odds. You just cant see past your hatred for Dak and all things related.

Mainly because. Losing my account (if i do) doesnt all matter to me that much. But you? Who lives on this site and craves validation. You would cry yourself to sleep if you lost your account.

Funny thing is. Even if I did win. You would create another account. Just like Amarichill did.

 

[DallasEast]

Emmitt Smith is the perfect example of this. You would think the amount of carries and the position he played he would have been more hurt over his career. If you actually watch him play though. He was amazing at avoiding big hits. He almost never got his bell rung. He just got tackled harmlessly. For the most part.

Emmitt Smith is a perfect example like you said. What's true, and what I think some should consider saying instead of injury prone, is some athletes do have higher pain tolerance thresholds than their peers--especially early in their careers. Smith playing with a separated shoulder for over 30 carries against the Giants in 1994 is a testament of his threshold. Some players would not have endured that punishment.

On the flip side, an older Smith suffered a fractured shoulder after Roy Williams hit him just right later in his career. Was Smith prone to sustaining that particular type of injury when it occurred? Or was it just another case of simple physics? I would say it was the latter because Smith was still the same tough son of a gun even in a Cardinals jersey, just older.

 

[MountaineerCowboy]

Ill take that bet without the injury clause. If you are serious that is. It definitely has to do with the odds. You just cant see past your hatred for Dak and all things related.

You'll never post again?

No new account?

Lay the bet out right now so I know we're on the same page.

 

[phildadon86]

Context.


Dak has been in a optimal situation nearly his entire career.

Everyone knows that besides a few Cowboys fans who think a tackle missing a game or a WR1 getting traded is the equivalent of what Daniel Jones has had to deal with lol.

49 turnovers in 3 seasons. Context.

 

[phildadon86]

You'll never post again?

No new account?

You didnt read the rest of my post did you?

 

[phildadon86]

Emmitt Smith is a perfect example like you said. What's true, and what I think some should consider saying instead of injury prone, is some athletes do have higher pain tolerance thresholds than their peers--especially early in their careers. Smith playing with a separated shoulder for over 30 carries against the Giants in 1994 is a testament of his threshold. Some players would not have endured that punishment.

On the flip side, an older Smith suffered a fractured shoulder after Roy Williams hit him just right later in his career. Was Smith prone to sustaining that particular type of injury when it occurred? Or was it just another case of simple physics? I would say it was the latter because Smith was still the same tough son of a gun even in a Cardinals jersey, just older.

Personally. I believe the complete lack of practice is why we see so many injuries nowadays.

 

[MountaineerCowboy]

You didnt read the rest of my post did you?

Lay the bet out you're talking about right now so I see we're on the same page.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Jones got that sorry team to the playoffs.

Dak and Jones are nearly equal.

The fact you think he’s a bust while the Giants just gave him that contract kinda speaks to how clueless you are on this topic.

If you think Dak is better then fine. I can totally buy that. But it’s very close and me personally I think they’re so equal as throwers of the football that Jones’s legs give him the edge.

That sorry team got HIM to the playoffs lol. That coach had those guys playing well so give him his due.

If you want to say they are the same caliber of QB I have no issue with that. You said he's a better runner? Fair enough. My only issue was you complimented his accuracy and his accuracy has been an issue.

And come on Catch....you know damn well just because the Giants gave him a big time contract doesn't mean he's worth it. They paid based on what they THINK he can become. Also desperation for the position.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

I told him the reason I won't take it is because of the injury out. That's literally the reason I asked about the injury out. Because I knew that the plan all along was to have an out.

I fully expect Dak to miss time because he has for the past 3 years and he's not gotten stronger and healthier.

If you believe then you believe. If you don't then you don't.

So you're taking the bet and banking on him getting hurt? That's how you plan to win the bet? And here I thought it was because "Dak sucks"....

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Context.


Dak has been in a optimal situation nearly his entire career.

Everyone knows that besides a few Cowboys fans who think a tackle missing a game or a WR1 getting traded is the equivalent of what Daniel Jones has had to deal with lol.

Dak took over a 4 win team when he came in with Zeke. Also played for a team that hadn't won since the 90's. Its not like Dak had a ideal situation himself.

 

[Redline360]

I honestly think if Dak was on the Giants last year he doesn't get them anywhere close to the playoffs. Jones put down a ton of rushing yards last year saving and winning many games.

Didn't the Giants OL rank as one of the worst again? Dak would be a pinball machine behind the giants OL cause he's not running like Jones

Doesn't mean Jones is better though

 

[MountaineerCowboy]

So you're taking the bet and banking on him getting hurt? That's how you plan to win the bet? And here I thought it was because "Dak sucks"....

I've moved on from talking to you about the bet with you and I'm on to the next poster now.

You had your chance, but you wanted an out.

 

[MountaineerCowboy]

I honestly think if Dak was on the Giants last year he doesn't get them anywhere close to the playoffs. Jones put down a ton of rushing yards last year saving and winning many games.

Didn't the Giants OL rank as one of the worst again? Dak would be a pinball machine behind the giants OL cause he's not running like Jones

Doesn't mean Jones is better though

The Giants lose when Jones doesn't play.

The Cowboys go 4-1 when Dak doesn't play.

 

[CowboyFrog]

No. Of course not. Bets of this nature are between members. It has nothing to do with moderation.

Honestly its not good for the site to lock people out..lol "Mod please help me thin out your posters"..lol

 

[DallasEast]

Personally. I believe the complete lack of practice is why we see so many injuries nowadays.

I used to think that until I realized present day athletes do not play hurt as often as their past peers. Injuries have always been a part of sports. One thing that has changed is the greater tendency to lean towards caution, not play, and get as healthy as possible before attempting to play again.

Additionally as far as football is concerned, I do believe certain types of lower leg injuries have increased with a greater emphasis on tackling while twisting. Joints and ligaments in particular can only withstand applied force to a certain degree. Exceeding it leads to unnecessary and avoidable fractures. Case in point: Dak Prescott's right ankle rotating on a swivel in October 2020. Just my opinion but that is one example that cannot be blamed upon lack of practice.

 

[CATCH17]

Dak took over a 4 win team when he came in with Zeke. Also played for a team that hadn't won since the 90's. Its not like Dak had an ideal situation himself.

Lol try saying that to an idiot because that won’t fly with me.

Dak walked into as optimal of a situation as possible for a rookie.

 

[CATCH17]

That sorry team got HIM to the playoffs lol. That coach had those guys playing well so give him his due.

If you want to say they are the same caliber of QB I have no issue with that. You said he's a better runner? Fair enough. My only issue was you complimented his accuracy and his accuracy has been an issue.

And come on Catch....you know damn well just because the Giants gave him a big time contract doesn't mean he's worth it. They paid based on what they THINK he can become. Also desperation for the position.

Of course he’s not worth that contract. Dak’s not worth his either lol.

I’d take neither one of them over a solid QB on a rookie deal.