Guys, is this why we lose in late november and December and playoffs?

[LittleBoyBlue]

:trophy: I needed to use this to make myself feel better. I hate when people bring up that game. Absolutely sickening.

Yeah... you know what... obviously we all got over it. Its not life, its football.


BUT.... I would have liked to have had that claim as a fan. Fan of the team that is the only football team to win 3 in a row or 4 in a row.

Got gipped!

 

[mrla]

And yet Jimmy got them to win 2 SB's back to back... rather convincingly.... and then Switzer comes in and we blow it big time against San Fran. That team needed what Jimmy had.

I still stick to my guns on this one.... if Jimmy were coach we win NFC championship a third straight year against the 49ers. We win the SB. We win a total of 4 in a row... ultimately.

But thats just me

If you go back and watch the tape from that NFC champ. game against the whiners you'll see that we lost only the first quarter because of several turnovers. We kicked their butts the rest of the game....but we were so far down we just couldn't make it all the way back.
With JJ there the outcome is no different.
1 bad quarter cost us a very good shot at 4 straight SB wins!

 

[Boysboy]

I'm witcha.

No way a Jimmy Johnson-led team would have turned the ball over three times and spotted the 49ers 21 points.

You forgot about a rookie RT by the name of Larry Allen who was playing on a gimpy ankle at the time-he had trouble keeping his foot on the ground early in the game(i.e. the false starts) as well as keeping Ricky Jackson in check-hence, the early QB pressures, TOs, etc.

Remember how he got the starting job-when Erik Williams went down around midseason.

Not trying to make excuse about injuries-but even a Jimmy-coached team couldn't do anything about this.

 

[cowboyjoe]

what killed us in that game, was when jimmy johnson wanted jerry jones to resign mark stepnoski, kevin gogan, and ken norton;

in that game, ken norton knowing our basic plays, formations, etc killed us, and jerry jones not signing deion sanders, that should have been holding on michael irvin, i do believe we would have won with jimmy johnson as the head coach, and if we had resigned at least ken norton; but i also agree that was a murderous 1st quarter to overcome, thats hard to do

 

[The Rawhide Kid]

If you go back and watch the tape from that NFC champ. game against the whiners you'll see that we lost only the first quarter because of several turnovers. We kicked their butts the rest of the game....but we were so far down we just couldn't make it all the way back.
With JJ there the outcome is no different.
1 bad quarter cost us a very good shot at 4 straight SB wins!

The reason we had that 1 bad quarter is because we weren't mentally prepared for the game. Switzer didn't have us ready, Jimmy would have.

 

[Boysboy]

If you go back and watch the tape from that NFC champ. game against the whiners you'll see that we lost only the first quarter because of several turnovers. We kicked their butts the rest of the game....but we were so far down we just couldn't make it all the way back.
With JJ there the outcome is no different.
1 bad quarter cost us a very good shot at 4 straight SB wins!

If anything-we coulda, woulda, shoulda won that reg season matchup at Candlestick earlier in the year. We wasted so many opportunities in the red zone(a couple of Aikman INTs were part of it)-otherwise, it would have been a double digit win.

Pt being that if we had tooken care of business then, the NFC Title game would have been at TX Stadium, where this place was just as much of a House or Horrors for Steve Young as it was for Brett Favre.

Oh well-OTOH, if Erik Williams didn't get into that freak car accident, then Larry Allen likely would not have been heard of. If anything, he DID get some experience that year-and then was moved over to Guard the next and VOILA...you know the rest.

 

[Boysboy]

what killed us in that game, was when jimmy johnson wanted jerry jones to resign mark stepnoski, kevin gogan, and ken norton;

in that game, ken norton knowing our basic plays, formations, etc killed us, and jerry jones not signing deion sanders, that should have been holding on michael irvin, i do believe we would have won with jimmy johnson as the head coach, and if we had resigned at least ken norton; but i also agree that was a murderous 1st quarter to overcome, thats hard to do

It was also around that time when the salary cap started hurting us too. We lost FIVE FAs that year, and ended up putting Robert Jones the starter at MLB. He struggled with shedding blocks early on, but came into his own as the season went along.

Come to think of it, our NFCE compadres were also the first to get hit big by the salary cap when this era first started-Washington in '93, and then NYG the year after when they were forced to cut Phil Simms and start an no-name rookie.

 

[LittleBoyBlue]

If you go back and watch the tape from that NFC champ. game against the whiners you'll see that we lost only the first quarter because of several turnovers. We kicked their butts the rest of the game....but we were so far down we just couldn't make it all the way back.
With JJ there the outcome is no different.
1 bad quarter cost us a very good shot at 4 straight SB wins!

1 bad quarter because we werent mentally prepared.
Jimmy would have stopped the bleeding early.... actually I dont think we get beat up like that in first quarter at all with Jimmy as HC.

The reason we had that 1 bad quarter is because we weren't mentally prepared for the game. Switzer didn't have us ready, Jimmy would have.

Agreed. 100%.

 

[GimmeTheBall!]

Thomas was one of the leaders on the Dolphins as well as Jason Taylor. These guys are perennial pro bowlers. Don't blame them because of the front office woes. Thomas may be on the downside of his career, but he definitely has leadership skills. That, my friend, is righttttttttttttt.

I don't care about talent on the Cowboys roster. As long as players have leadership skills . . . . hey, mods! what did you all do with the sarcasm button????

 

[I LOVE ME SOME ME!]

I dont see the difference in what Irvin did leadership wise and what TO brings leadership wise. They both are demonstrative on the sidelines pumping up other players and they both do whatever it takes to win. There is a reason Irvin liked TO so much and not any other reciever in the NFL. He obviously sees himself in TO.

 

[STAR GAZER]

I think you guys are right about the leadership issue. That kind of thing puts "fire in the belly" as they say.

With that being said, I can see why Jimmy was so successful. He was a psych major. He lead the team with that approach, and it rubbed off on the players, who in turn took the same approach amongst each other.

Nothing against Parcells, I think he was the right guy at the right time, but he wasn't going to fire-up his players with intimidation tactics.

Unfortunately, we have the persona of a dead fish in Phillips. However, Phillips will encourage rather than discourage as Parcells so often did.

So the players are going to have to find their inspiration with-in themselves. And that comes with team work. Once they have bonded through failures as much as successes. Then they will discover that invincibility that will put them over the hump.

 

[Boysboy]

I think you guys are right about the leadership issue. That kind of thing puts "fire in the belly" as they say.

With that being said, I can see why Jimmy was so successful. He was a psych major. He lead the team with that approach, and it rubbed off on the players, who in turn took the same approach amongst each other.

Nothing against Parcells, I think he was the right guy at the right time, but he wasn't going to fire-up his players with intimidation tactics.

Unfortunately, we have the persona of a dead fish in Phillips. However, Phillips will encourage rather than discourage as Parcells so often did.

So the players are going to have to find their inspiration with-in themselves. And that comes with team work. Once they have bonded through failures as much as successes. Then they will discover that invincibility that will put them over the hump.

I think we can pretty much agree that ALL elements have to work...ALL.

For example, Jon Fox is a Jimmy Johnson-type coach...but why haven't the Panthers played with much fire the last couple of years? Quite simple-b/c most of their core leadership from their Super Bowl team a few years back all RETIRED.

Ditto Cowher in his last year in Pitt-Jerome Bettis was a HUGE voice not only on the field, but also on the sidelines and in that locker room. The year after when he retired, you just didn't see that same Steeler team, and ditto this last year. And for that matter too-you saw a huge difference in '06 when Strahan went down with that foot injury with the Gints.

Pt being that the coach can't do it all by himself.

 

[Bach]

jimmy said, when you have things going smoothly, sometimes you need to create a crisis, I think if your not careful; when things are going good, and you look around, like geting complacient, content with your wins, then all of a sudden, then you can go backwards,

Who needs a crisis when you're 13-3!!!! heh heh.?

 

[ANTHONYSCOTT]

And yet Jimmy got them to win 2 SB's back to back... rather convincingly.... and then Switzer comes in and we blow it big time against San Fran. That team needed what Jimmy had.

I still stick to my guns on this one.... if Jimmy were coach we win NFC championship a third straight year against the 49ers. We win the SB. We win a total of 4 in a row... ultimately.

But thats just me

I think its more than just you, I agree you also!

 

[DallasEast]

I dont see the difference in what Irvin did leadership wise and what TO brings leadership wise. They both are demonstrative on the sidelines pumping up other players and they both do whatever it takes to win. There is a reason Irvin liked TO so much and not any other reciever in the NFL. He obviously sees himself in TO.

 

[Chocolate Lab]

Nicely done, DallasEast.

 

[mrla]

The reason we had that 1 bad quarter is because we weren't mentally prepared for the game. Switzer didn't have us ready, Jimmy would have.

There are mental mistakes and physical.....the vast majority of our poor performance in that 1st quarter were physical mistakes. Unless JJ was going to don a helmet and get out there and play himself there is nothing he could/would have done any differently than Switzer to help in that fateful quarter of football.

 

[DaBoys4Life]

I don't know, but reading your post makes me want to do something really manly, like rip out chest hair with my bair hands

you made me laugh out loud in class.

 

[Boysboy]

There are mental mistakes and physical.....the vast majority of our poor performance in that 1st quarter were physical mistakes. Unless JJ was going to don a helmet and get out there and play himself there is nothing he could/would have done any differently than Switzer to help in that fateful quarter of football.

Again-we were playing with a rookie RT(Larry Allen) who had a gimpy ankle AND going up against a premiere pass rusher in Ricky Jackson. His 1st qtr struggles pretty much lead to our 1st qtr O struggles.

If anything-if we had Erik Williams in that first Niners meeting, the NFC Title game would have been played at TX Stadium, which has been nothing but a House or Horrors for Steve Young.

 

[DallasDomination]

You know what the thread starter is trying to say..

Without sugar coating it, I'll say it.

We have some( one to many) Soft Weak minded Players and Coaching staff..

Yes I agree. I'm critical, but it's true..Nobody acts like a winner, they act ok with what they have. No fire, no attitude...Some players have spurts of Moxie, like romo, Owens and BArber...But besides that Is ee alot o soft *** players.

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