Hamstring Injuries - We Ready To Talk About Woicik?

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lockster said:
Yoga does nothing for muscles stretching does. Yoga is about spiritualism, stretching is about physically stretching ur muscles. You can stretch muscles without wasting any of your time on the spiritualism of yoga.
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Isn't yoga just a fancy work for stretching
 
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Cowboys have been very fortunate to not have meaningful players be done for the season. Only ones in recent memory I can think of are Sean Lee and Romo. Guys have hamstring injuries....that's to be expected in football. Most teams suffer hammy's. Whether anyone wants to admit or not the Cowboys have been very fortunate in the injury department.
 
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I remember when he returned from NE, he was going to turn water into wine. Missed it by "thatmuch".
 
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lockster said:
Yoga does nothing for muscles stretching does. Yoga is about spiritualism, stretching is about physically stretching ur muscles. You can stretch muscles without wasting any of your time on the spiritualism of yoga.
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This is just completely untrue. Yoga is all about flexibility, balance, stretching, and to an extent muscle building. Look up bikram, vinyasa, ashtanga (personal fav) and sweaty yoga for a few examples.

The "poser" yoga is all about meditation and spiritualism. Things like kundalini and flow. "Fake" yoga if you will.
 
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Hamstring injuries seem to be a problem for most teams. This is not just an isolated problem (us). It's frustrating but not too much we can do about it.
 
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stasheroo said:
And that's part of the reason why he's an iron man who rarely if ever gets hurt who's playing at a championship level into his 40's.
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Our trainers should tell players to copy whatever Witten does. They need to inject his stem cells into every player, because whatever he's made of is virtually indestructible.
 
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My take on it is that today’s athletes are much more muscular and faster so hamstring injuries are likely to occur. And since teams pass more these days, it means more running for WR’s and corners and thus more hamstring pulls are likely to occur. Personally, I wonder how up-to-date Woicik is on training and protecting hamstrings while other teams with younger trainers don’t seem to have the issue the Cowboys have.


Todd Archer noted that the Cowboys’ practice routine is much more up-tempo than any team in the league which includes stretching.


I do believe that the Cowboys have decided to be extremely cautious with soft tissue injuries. They mentioned the likelihood of a soft tissue injury in preseason reoccurring again and I would be willing to bet that Tom Robinson probably compiled the research on that and the organization decided that the best thing to do with pulls is to sit guys out longer.


And a lot of back injuries are intertwined with the health of the hamstrings. In fact, I wonder what type of job they do with the calf pliability since that is intertwined as well.




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casmith07 said:
I'll spare a lengthy opening post about this, because most Zoners already have a baseline opinion one way or another, but I'm interested to see where the thoughts lie now.

Question is in the title: are we as the fans good to go with Woicik with the continued hamstring injuries? Yes or no, and why?

Mods - a poll would be great too if you still do those.
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I share your interest and befuddlement (at least for me) around this issue. Frankly, I vacillate between an explanation of it being staff related (strength and training approaches) and the CBA (i.e., less strenuous practice schedule leading to a lack of readiness/game-shape amongst our players). I have certainly been critical of our past lame record of injury diagnosis (i.e., something characterized as minor ends up being something prolonged or even season ending), but I can't recall past squads having so many soft tissue problems. It's incredibly frustrating.
 
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Yakuza Rich said:
My take on it is that today’s athletes are much more muscular and faster so hamstring injuries are likely to occur. And since teams pass more these days, it means more running for WR’s and corners and thus more hamstring pulls are likely to occur. Personally, I wonder how up-to-date Woicik is on training and protecting hamstrings while other teams with younger trainers don’t seem to have the issue the Cowboys have.


Todd Archer noted that the Cowboys’ practice routine is much more up-tempo than any team in the league which includes stretching.


I do believe that the Cowboys have decided to be extremely cautious with soft tissue injuries. They mentioned the likelihood of a soft tissue injury in preseason reoccurring again and I would be willing to bet that Tom Robinson probably compiled the research on that and the organization decided that the best thing to do with pulls is to sit guys out longer.


And a lot of back injuries are intertwined with the health of the hamstrings. In fact, I wonder what type of job they do with the calf pliability since that is intertwined as well.




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As someone who participates in a lot of fitness activity (when healthy - recovering from a labrum repair in my shoulder), it's very clear that you know what you're talking about.

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lockster said:
Yoga does nothing for muscles stretching does. Yoga is about spiritualism, stretching is about physically stretching ur muscles. You can stretch muscles without wasting any of your time on the spiritualism of yoga.
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Wow! That's the dumbest post of the day.

I tried Yoga once. I doubt shouting "holy ****" a few times while wondering if I'd be able to stand again
qualifies as spiritual.
 

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Supercowboy1986 said:
This is just completely untrue. Yoga is all about flexibility, balance, stretching, and to an extent muscle building. Look up bikram, vinyasa, ashtanga (personal fav) and sweaty yoga for a few examples.

The "poser" yoga is all about meditation and spiritualism. Things like kundalini and flow. "Fake" yoga if you will.
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if you take out the spiritual part, meditation, breathe exercises, etc. What you have left is just stretching. Yoga comes from far eastern spiritualism, from India.
 
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stasheroo said:
Keep in mind that it's been the rookies - who are adjusting to the NFL and have worked with Woicik the least - who are having these hamstring issues.

And I firmly believe that the Cowboys are being overly cautious in bringing them back when the games don't count.

That said, on a related note, I think the entire NFL can do a better job of physical training. A huge focus on the weight room, but little to none on yoga, Pilates, or a dedicated stretching program. The first team to take that seriously will have a distinct advantage in my opinion.
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They don't even regulate diet. Dez last year was still eating take our burgers at 2am, he said he stopped this year. That amazes me. If I'm paying someone millions to play for me, I'm taking control of their diet too.

I think Dwayne Howard are the equivalent of 5 big bags of skittles a day back when he was with the Lakers.... Crazy.
 
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