Has any great QB had a crueler run than Tony Romo?

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I hope and encourage you to do exactly that. Challenge posters that make ridiculous remarks.

I was merely pointing out that outrageous remarks have been made about Romo with the same, if not more, frequency than they have been about Dak.

I praise Dak and then I have given reasons why I think Romo would be a better fit now. A healthy Romo that is. I'm in the minority, but that's my opinion.

Some praise Dak and then immediately ridicule Tony Romo.

When someone makes a ridiculous comment I'm going to challenge them with stats and facts. The poster who claimed Dak is merely a game manager and nothing more than Kyle Orton got challenged with a bunch of stats and never responded. It's almost like some come here to make themselves look foolish. There's been a lot more ridiculous remarks made about Romo than Dak but not in a negative way. Claiming Romo is better than Staubach. Aikman, Brady, Marino and Peyton Manning is ridiculous.

Romo has been criticized for his turnover issues especially in critical games and rightly so. He's had more than a dozen turnovers in playoff/elimination games. He has to take some responsibility for that he was the QB. He's NOT better fit now, he's hasn't played a regular season game in a FULL YEAR. A rusty QB who's going to take more sacks and turn the ball over more isn't a better fit. This team has some great chemistry and some of you want to take the chance of disrupting it with a QB change. The decision has been made, we have a new QB and some of you need to accept it.
 

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If this offense is almost the exact same as when Romo ran it albeight with minor changes, then why do people fret at the idea that a healthy Tony Romo couldn't run it better or atleast just as well? And if this is true and considering that the offensive line and wide receivers have all played with Romo in the past, why is this issue with team chemistry on the field so scrutinized? It seems like you are singing a different tune with this post than what you were implying before. I could be wrong though and if i misread you I apologize.

I disagree for the most part in your characterization of our offense as being virtually the same. I have yet to see Dak take a snap from under center and throw a football down the field. I'm not saying he has to or that he can't do it all I am saying is that he has not taken the ball from under center and passed the ball out of a 3, 5, or 7 step drop. All of his throws are from the shotgun or from outside the pocket on a designed bootleg. And although Romo did throw from the shotgun quite a bit, that's not the same offense Romo ran at all. Granted that I am not complaining or lobbying for one over the other. I am just simply stating things as I see it.

And the Seahawks was a good reference and they have had success with that style of offense, but they also have had a dominating, opportunistic defense that has facilitated such a philosophy overall in my opinion that has made it all work.

There's been some wrinkles added to the offense to fit what Dak does well. There's a lot of things that we're doing that are the same when Romo was the QB but we've added a few things to fit Dak. It doesn't matter if you haven't seen him under center go down the field, he's passing the ball very efficiently and is on pace for more passing yards than Romo had in 2014. He's excellent at throwing on the run and we're utilizing his skills. He's a rookie who still has a lot of growth and development ahead of him. We have to incorporate things into the offense that he's comfortable with so he'll have success.

We had no idea he was going to be the starter this season until Romo went down in the 3rd preseason game. Once he gets a full spring and summer of work as the starter his game will start to evolve and he'll take more snaps under center. Having a running threat at QB is a real asset and we're utilizing that in our offense. We're #3 in total offense which is 4 spots higher than in 2014 and Dak has been one of the top QBs in the league this season with a 106.2 passer rating and he's #2 behind Brady in total QBR.
 

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Well said. One must not underestimate the team chemistry that is going on with Dak behind center, which is very refreshing indeed.

I haven't seen better chemistry than what we have going right now in years with the Cowboys. Dak has really energized the team and they believe in him. Nothing can change the chemistry of a team more than making a QB change and the Cowboys were smart enough to realize that. There was no need for a QB change as well as the team and Dak have played.
 

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I haven't seen better chemistry than what we have going right now in years with the Cowboys. Dak has really energized the team and they believe in him. Nothing can change the chemistry of a team more than making a QB change and the Cowboys were smart enough to realize that. There was no need for a QB change as well as the team and Dak have played.

One columnist implied that Romo should not have asked for a chance to "compete" for the starting position at mid-season given our record and the on field chemistry...
 

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There's been some wrinkles added to the offense to fit what Dak does well. There's a lot of things that we're doing that are the same when Romo was the QB but we've added a few things to fit Dak. It doesn't matter if you haven't seen him under center go down the field, he's passing the ball very efficiently and is on pace for more passing yards than Romo had in 2014. He's excellent at throwing on the run and we're utilizing his skills. He's a rookie who still has a lot of growth and development ahead of him. We have to incorporate things into the offense that he's comfortable with so he'll have success.

We had no idea he was going to be the starter this season until Romo went down in the 3rd preseason game. Once he gets a full spring and summer of work as the starter his game will start to evolve and he'll take more snaps under center. Having a running threat at QB is a real asset and we're utilizing that in our offense. We're #3 in total offense which is 4 spots higher than in 2014 and Dak has been one of the top QBs in the league this season with a 106.2 passer rating and he's #2 behind Brady in total QBR.

Ok.

A minute ago it was the exact same offense as Tony Romo ran. Now you acknowledge that there has been some changes added to it. Again, I respectfully disagree with your assessment that you made earlier that the offense is exactly the way it was when Romo ran it.

It's been nine games and this offense is revolving around a read option, heavy run scheme that has been successful. So ultimately, I am very happy about it at the moment.
 

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When someone makes a ridiculous comment I'm going to challenge them with stats and facts. The poster who claimed Dak is merely a game manager and nothing more than Kyle Orton got challenged with a bunch of stats and never responded. It's almost like some come here to make themselves look foolish. There's been a lot more ridiculous remarks made about Romo than Dak but not in a negative way. Claiming Romo is better than Staubach. Aikman, Brady, Marino and Peyton Manning is ridiculous.

Romo has been criticized for his turnover issues especially in critical games and rightly so. He's had more than a dozen turnovers in playoff/elimination games. He has to take some responsibility for that he was the QB. He's NOT better fit now, he's hasn't played a regular season game in a FULL YEAR. A rusty QB who's going to take more sacks and turn the ball over more isn't a better fit. This team has some great chemistry and some of you want to take the chance of disrupting it with a QB change. The decision has been made, we have a new QB and some of you need to accept it.

Again, I respectfully disagree with pretty much everything you wrote.

I mean we can do this all day if you'd like. I'll respond every time.

First of all, take a look at Tony Romo's career touchdown to interception ratio. It's almost elite and we aren't just talking about 9 games. I have more numbers if you'd like to keep doing this.

Another thing is your assessment that he is rusty. You don't know that at all. Is he aging? Yep. Is he injury prone? Absolutely. But if he's healthy he's better for this offense right now. Now we can debate the healthy thing all you'd like and that'd be a worthwhile discussion because Romo would have to prove that he is and can stay that way.

Other than that, we can just keep doing what we all have been doing here on this forum for the last 8 weeks. You can act like this board is full of Dak haters and Romo homers. I can sit there and then proceed to look up the plethora of posts claiming that Prescott is the best Quarterback to had ever play and how everyone just knows that he'll never struggle and that it's all because of him that this offense is tearing it up.

Your turn.
 

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Ok.

A minute ago it was the exact same offense as Tony Romo ran. Now you acknowledge that there has been some changes added to it. Again, I respectfully disagree with your assessment that you made earlier that the offense is exactly the way it was when Romo ran it.

It's been nine games and this offense is revolving around a read option, heavy run scheme that has been successful. So ultimately, I am very happy about it at the moment.

I never said it was the "exact same" offense, I said it's the same with some new wrinkles added to it to fit Dak. I said from the very beginning there's been changes and if you're looking to twist my comments just to create an ongoing argument for the next few days, forget it. Stop complaining and enjoy the season and the play of our new QB.
 

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Again, I respectfully disagree with pretty much everything you wrote.

I mean we can do this all day if you'd like. I'll respond every time.

First of all, take a look at Tony Romo's career touchdown to interception ratio. It's almost elite and we aren't just talking about 9 games. I have more numbers if you'd like to keep doing this.

Another thing is your assessment that he is rusty. You don't know that at all. Is he aging? Yep. Is he injury prone? Absolutely. But if he's healthy he's better for this offense right now. Now we can debate the healthy thing all you'd like and that'd be a worthwhile discussion because Romo would have to prove that he is and can stay that way.

Other than that, we can just keep doing what we all have been doing here on this forum for the last 8 weeks. You can act like this board is full of Dak haters and Romo homers. I can sit there and then proceed to look up the plethora of posts claiming that Prescott is the best Quarterback to had ever play and how everyone just knows that he'll never struggle and that it's all because of him that this offense is tearing it up.

Your turn.

This all started with you responding to a comment I made to another poster. The last thing you want to do is challenge me to keep this going because this will be going a very long time until you finally decide to move on. We don't agree and my advice to you is to let this go. As for Romo being rusty he will be rusty he's been rusty every time he's come back from several missed games. Check his history! The last time he missed 7 or more games he tossed 2 picks against Miami and didn't look sharp. The following week he tossed 3 picks against Carolina in route to a meltdown. Any QB who's missed a full year of regular season games is going to be rusty and anyone who follows football should know that.
 

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I confused you with another poster. It happens when you're going back and forth with several different posters. I have a lot of posters coming at me in all directions wanting to argue and you've changed your avatar at least once.

Wrong again. I've never changed my avatar since I've been on the site.

You screwed up. In other words, you were wrong.
 

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Wrong again. I've never changed my avatar since I've been on the site.

You screwed up. In other words, you were wrong.

That's not the avatar I remember you having or maybe I just keep confusing you with other posters. You don't seem to standout.
 

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This all started with you responding to a comment I made to another poster. The last thing you want to do is challenge me to keep this going because this will be going a very long time until you finally decide to move on. We don't agree and my advice to you is to let this go. As for Romo being rusty he will be rusty he's been rusty every time he's come back from several missed games. Check his history! The last time he missed 7 or more games he tossed 2 picks against Miami and didn't look sharp. The following week he tossed 3 picks against Carolina in route to a meltdown. Any QB who's missed a full year of regular season games is going to be rusty and anyone who follows football should know that.

LOL and like I said I'll repond to you everytime because I think your stance on this is crap.

Look at Tony Romo's TD/INT ratio and get back to me for his entire career. Of course, you have your cherry pickin' shoes on as I figured you would.

And Romo wasn't healthy last year against Carolina. Try again.

Your turn.
 

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I never said it was the "exact same" offense, I said it's the same with some new wrinkles added to it to fit Dak. I said from the very beginning there's been changes and if you're looking to twist my comments just to create an ongoing argument for the next few days, forget it. Stop complaining and enjoy the season and the play of our new QB.

You are the one with your panties in a wad over what you percieve as people being disrespectful to Dak all the while Romo is the one getting raked over the coals.

I don't have to twist your words. Your drivel is plastered all over here.
 

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LOL and like I said I'll repond to you everytime because I think your stance on this is crap.

Look at Tony Romo's TD/INT ratio and get back to me for his entire career. Of course, you have your cherry pickin' shoes on as I figured you would.

And Romo wasn't healthy last year against Carolina. Try again.

Your turn.

Everything you're posting is crap. Romo's TD to turnover ratio his entire career makes no difference even he said you have to prove yourself every day in the NFL. His TD to turnover ratio last season was 5-8 in less than four games. Keep bringing it and I'll keep tearing it down. You're making this very easy for me.
 

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You are the one with your panties in a wad over what you percieve as people being disrespectful to Dak all the while Romo is the one getting raked over the coals.

I don't have to twist your words. Your drivel is plastered all over here.

It's your panties that have become bunched you're the one bringing it up. Before long I'll have yours so bunched your eyes will pop out. You don't have to twist my words but you did because you're looking to argue.
 

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It was rust that caused his meltdown against Carolina. Keep swinging and missing.

LOL your delusional.

He was never healthy and was rushed back. Everybody knows that except you. What do you have next for me?
 

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Everything you're posting is crap. Romo's TD to turnover ratio his entire career makes no difference even he said you have to prove yourself every day in the NFL. His TD to turnover ratio last season was 5-8 in less than four games. Keep bringing it and I'll keep tearing it down. You're making this very easy for me.

Again he was injured last year.

Just because you want to act like he wasn't and call it rust or whatever made up term you want to call it doesn't make you less delusional.

And again, if you want to just dismiss his career TD/INT ratio and site stats he had when he was injured predominantly then you are either A) just clueless or B) have an agenda.

The man is not turnover prone. He has one of the best TD/INT ratio's of the last 8 years.

What do you have next for me?
 

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LOL your delusional.

He was never healthy and was rushed back. Everybody knows that except you. What do you have next for me?

Look who's talking. lol His collarbone had nothing to do with those 5 INT's in less than 2 games. He had three other turnovers prior to that injury...next!
 

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It's your panties that have become bunched you're the one bringing it up. Before long I'll have yours so bunched your eyes will pop out. You don't have to twist my words but you did because you're looking to argue.

LOL listen to yourself.

You are nowhere near as smart as you think you are and you don't scare anybody with your crap.

You said Romo wasn't getting disrespected by some here. You are wrong.
You said Romo is turnover prone. You are wrong.

Let's keep going.
 

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Again he was injured last year.

Just because you want to act like he wasn't and call it rust or whatever made up term you want to call it doesn't make you less delusional.

And again, if you want to just dismiss his career TD/INT ratio and site stats he had when he was injured predominantly then you are either A) just clueless or B) have an agenda.

The man is not turnover prone. He has one of the best TD/INT ratio's of the last 8 years.

What do you have next for me?

What Romo did in the past makes no difference. He was rusty when he came back from injury last season and it showed. The man is turnover prone, he's had a dozen turnovers in playoff/elimination games...next!
 
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