Has any great QB had a crueler run than Tony Romo?

PA Cowboy Fan

Well-Known Member
Messages
25,354
Reaction score
51,350
Yes. Jones treatment of Landry was a disgrace. He has tried to aplogise in recent years. But, the old fans still have hard feeling about it.
And for me it was different because I never lived in Dallas. I grew up in NC where the Deadskins were on TV every week. One of the main reasons I became a Cowboy fan was because of Coach Landry. It was just the way he represented himself. Pure class. And I like Tony but Coach Landry did more for the Cowboys than Tony ever did. He helped build the Cowboy brand.
 

haleyrules

Well-Known Member
Messages
16,060
Reaction score
42,877
I agree. Time marches on. Tony's been our starter for 10 years. He's had his chances. Yes I would have loved to see him QB a SB team but I'm not going to risk everything on a what if.
Yep. The real problem is the extreme emotional attachment people have for individual players. I understand that, as a kid, l was the same. You get older and fortunately that slowly dies away. I enjoy the game and the Team much more now. When its time to move on...its very easy for the oldtimers.
 

PA Cowboy Fan

Well-Known Member
Messages
25,354
Reaction score
51,350
Yep. The real problem is the extreme emotional attachment people have for individual players. I understand that, as a kid, l was the same. You get older and fortunately that slowly dies away. I enjoy the game and the Team much more now. When its time to move on...its very easy for the oldtimers.
Totally agree. I was in my late 20's when the Cowboys started those SB runs. It's been 20 years. I don't want to waste anther 20. I just want to see us win another. When we played SB XXX I kind of knew this was going to be it. I didn't even enjoy that SB that much. The media mostly talked about the Steelers blowing it rather than the Cowboys winning it. If I knew then that we wouldn't be back again for over 20 years I would have enjoyed it more.
 

Eddie

Well-Known Member
Messages
14,092
Reaction score
5,862
Big deal. It's part of the game. Romo's made $125 million already. Nothing cruel about that.

Age and injuries catch up to everyone. EVERY single QB had to bare the same cross.

Big deal.
 

JJHLH1

Well-Known Member
Messages
6,312
Reaction score
14,627
Um, split starting reps. Best guy wins. What, you don't think they can tell who is playing at a higher level during practice sessions? Then why did everyone know Romo was the best QB on the team when Bledsoe was taking all first-team reps?

Why the F are we coddling Prescott, thinking he couldn't handle a little competition? It is utterly ridiculous that you have a HOF-level QB on your team...and you won't even let him compete.

The time for a quarterback competition is training camp and pre-season, not mid-November during an 8-game winning streak.

Linehan has already stated that a true competition would take away from the snaps Dak requires to prepare for an upcoming game.

"It's difficult within the season to get into splitting reps and doing all that stuff," Linehan said. "It's hard. It's almost impossible."

http://cowboyszone.com/threads/dmn-...mo-compete-to-regain-his-starting-job.363121/
 

Clove

Shrinkage
Messages
64,894
Reaction score
27,490
How 'bout that Tony Romo!!!

What a player - what a guy! Class act and the quintessence (look it up) of professionalism!

I can't wait for the next Tony Romo thread.

In fact - I hear he's a new sponsor for Valvoline Oil - maybe you can catch him at you local oil change store!

All Tony all the time!

P.S.

According to you - not one single player on the team deserves to win a Super Bowl except the quarterback. After all, you've said it - many times in fact - it's all about the quarterback - period.

So - no ring for you Zack or Zeke or Sean or Jason.

If Dak wins a Super Bowl - the rest of you were just window dressing.

Oh - did I mention - How 'bout that Tony Romo! What a guy!
I think my reference was, people like you don't deserve a Super Bowl.
 

dfense

Well-Known Member
Messages
9,109
Reaction score
6,542
All we can go by is the past/present. The present says that he's won 8 in a row. His past says he won 8 in a row. Shall we look at Romo's past?
All we can go by is the past/present. The present says that he's won 8 in a row. His past says he won 8 in a row. Shall we look at Romo's past?
Sure, it's a little longer than 8 games though.
 

dfense

Well-Known Member
Messages
9,109
Reaction score
6,542
go "wah" a river. all this "you don't feel like i do so you are wrong!" whining crap has run its course.
Most of your comments were all negative about Romo. Then you proclaimed yourself a fan. I just pointed that out.
 

iceberg

rock music matters
Messages
34,403
Reaction score
7,928
Most of your comments were all negative about Romo. Then you proclaimed yourself a fan. I just pointed that out.
you new here? and my comments are NOT negative to romo - they're just not saying we should stop the streak we're on to swap "engines" so to speak and that has upset you.

your issue.

have a nice day.
 

KJJ

You Have an Axe to Grind
Messages
62,177
Reaction score
39,427
With all due respect, I've seen equally ridiculous comparisons and statements made about Dak Prescott after only nine games. For whatever reason, Dak can do no wrong. It doesn't matter that he has the best Oline in football and a freak for a running back or a top 5 wide receiver. Yes, I have even seen it stated here on this forum that he is better than Tom Brady.

Some Dak enthusiasts go to extremes and some Romo enthusiasts go to extremes.

People overembelish and make ridiculous comparisons about everything under the sun. Some posters here have made the assumption that alot of the people here aren't old enough to have seen Staubach and Aikman play and that Romo was the first Quarterback of their favorite team that they have latched on to, if that makes sense. I can understand that rationale. The first year I really remember following the Cowboys was when I was six years old and we went 1-15. After that we became one of the best teams in the history of the NFL in my view. I thought Troy Aikman was a superhero growing up. I had a hard time realizing that Troy was done in 2000. I'm not comparing the careers of Aikman and Romo at all, by the way.

Things have to be put into perspective. Nobody knows what kind of career Dak will have. He has started it with a bang and looks like he could have a great one, but I'll never forget all the noise we heard about RGIII a few years ago and look how that turned out. Nobody knows for sure and yet you see post after post on here with people that can't just leave it at praising Dak. They have to attempt to tarnish Tony Romo at the same time. Some people here don't take too kindly to that, just as you seem so annoyed with some of the Romo FAN's as you describe.

I'm a Cowboy's fan first. Players come and go. I've been pretty vocal on here in my belief that Tony Romo is the better player and that I think he should start as soon as he is healthy. I still believe that, but I understand why they are sticking with Dak. The only question is can Romo stay healthy and I admit, I'm not as confident in.

As long as we are winning that's all that really matters.

None of the statements I've seen about Dak have come close to being as ridiculous as some of the statements that have been made about Romo. You have Romo FANS out there tearing Dak's game down claiming we would be undefeated and would have rolled everyone this season if Romo was the QB. Even though Dak's stats are on par with Romo's from the 2014 season with some even being better than Romo's, they claim Dak's not seeing the field very well and is holding us back despite the fact we have the best record in the entire NFL and are currently riding a franchise record tying 8 game winning streak. We're atop all the power rankings but according to some Dak's been a liability. :facepalm: You have Romo FANS hoping Dak will be injured so Romo can have one last hurrah. They would rather lose with Romo having one last opportunity at a ring, rather than win a championship with Dak. There can't be a more bizarre FAN base than this one. We may have struck gold in the 4th round with a special QB and you have some that almost appear to be pulling against him so we can go back to where we've already been with Romo. One FAN claimed if we're going to go deep into playoffs it will be with Romo despite the fact that we've never gone deep into the playoffs with Romo. Romo had the same beast of an OL in 2014 and he had a back leading the entire league in rushing just like Dak has but Romo didn't bring the read option to our offense and the ability to pull the ball down and run. Dak hasn't taken as many sacks as Romo took in 2014 and he hasn't turned the ball over as many times as Romo in 2014 which has given Dak a better TD to turnover ratio.

Some of the FANS on this board have grown up watching Romo and he's the only QB who's started for the team since they've been following the Cowboys. I can understand their devotion to him based on that but for some to think he's better than Brady, Peyton Manning and Aaron Rodgers and would have more championships if he played on the teams they did is going way overboard. Dak has given the franchise new hope and it's hard not to get excited about what he's done so far because you just don't see rookie QBs playing this well. Dak will run into some struggles, it's going to happen and the Romo FANS will jump all over him when it does. They act like Romo can do no wrong when they know that's not true. My feeling on Romo is he had his chances over 10 years as the starter and it's time to move on.

Luck has never been on his side and that was true for Meredith, Morton and Danny White who were all good QBs. Outside Cowboys Nation Romo will best be remembered for his bad plays because many came at the worst possible moments in big games. I always saw him as a poor man's Brett Favre. A lot of great, exciting plays mixed with a lot of boneheaded bad plays that left many scratching their heads. He's a gunslinger who lives and dies by taking chances. It's very difficult to win it all with a QB who has turnover issues. Show me a turnover prone QB and I'll show you a QB who probably doesn't have a SB ring except for Brett Favre and he can thank Drew Bledsoes 4 INT's for that. Romo gave it his best and I'll always have respect for him, he accomplished a lot for an undrafted free agent but it's about winning championships for me and he didn't get it done. It certainly wasn't all his fault but every QBs legacy to some degree is tied to their playoff record.
 

KJJ

You Have an Axe to Grind
Messages
62,177
Reaction score
39,427
Nobody knows what kind of career Dak will have.

We don't know what kind of career he'll have but he's setting a real high bar for himself heading into next season to try and duplicate or improve on what he's done this season. The Cowboys made the decision in 06 after only 10 starts to go with Romo as their future. Dak's had 9 starts so far and if what we've seen during those starts is any indication of what's to come he'll have a solid career. He's going to face the same scrutiny Romo did because Staubach and Aikman set the bar high with 5 championships between them and if he doesn't lead the Cowboys to a championship he'll end up in the rubble along with Meredith, Morton, White and Romo.
 

DandyDon1722

It's been a good 'un, ain't it?
Messages
6,386
Reaction score
7,008
Well some are saying they couldn't even enjoy a SB win if Tony wasn't QB'ing. Crazy talk.

I just don't understand how any fan could feel like that. Not after 20 years.

Tell you what - I will be grabbing my Cowboys commemorative shot glass out of the cabinet and doing som serious shots the night we win a Super Bowl. I can't express how happy that would make me and if Dak is the quarterback that will tell me we probably have another 3 or 4 more to go before he's done.
 

Elusive6thRing

Well-Known Member
Messages
3,985
Reaction score
3,300
Steve McNair great QB, came within a yard of tying the Super Bowl, we don't know what would have happened if it tied of course. Dude was always playing hurt many times so hurt he wouldn't even practice but would still play and play at a high level. He was murdered by his mistress that admittedly he had no business cheating on his wife but he was going to break it off with her but of course that's all off the field stuff. No disrespect to Romo but he was an MVP and almost won a Super Bowl so I'd take his career over Romos.
 

CrownCowboy

Well-Known Member
Messages
2,167
Reaction score
1,791
None of the statements I've seen about Dak have come close to being as ridiculous as some of the statements that have been made about Romo. You have Romo FANS out there tearing Dak's game down claiming we would be undefeated and would have rolled everyone this season if Romo was the QB. Even though Dak's stats are on par with Romo's from the 2014 season with some even being better than Romo's, they claim Dak's not seeing the field very well and is holding us back despite the fact we have the best record in the entire NFL and are currently riding a franchise record tying 8 game winning streak. We're atop all the power rankings but according to some Dak's been a liability. :facepalm: You have Romo FANS hoping Dak will be injured so Romo can have one last hurrah. They would rather lose with Romo having one last opportunity at a ring, rather than win a championship with Dak. There can't be a more bizarre FAN base than this one. We may have struck gold in the 4th round with a special QB and you have some that almost appear to be pulling against him so we can go back to where we've already been with Romo. One FAN claimed if we're going to go deep into playoffs it will be with Romo despite the fact that we've never gone deep into the playoffs with Romo. Romo had the same beast of an OL in 2014 and he had a back leading the entire league in rushing just like Dak has but Romo didn't bring the read option to our offense and the ability to pull the ball down and run. Dak hasn't taken as many sacks as Romo took in 2014 and he hasn't turned the ball over as many times as Romo in 2014 which has given Dak a better TD to turnover ratio.

Some of the FANS on this board have grown up watching Romo and he's the only QB who's started for the team since they've been following the Cowboys. I can understand their devotion to him based on that but for some to think he's better than Brady, Peyton Manning and Aaron Rodgers and would have more championships if he played on the teams they did is going way overboard. Dak has given the franchise new hope and it's hard not to get excited about what he's done so far because you just don't see rookie QBs playing this well. Dak will run into some struggles, it's going to happen and the Romo FANS will jump all over him when it does. They act like Romo can do no wrong when they know that's not true. My feeling on Romo is he had his chances over 10 years as the starter and it's time to move on.

Luck has never been on his side and that was true for Meredith, Morton and Danny White who were all good QBs. Outside Cowboys Nation Romo will best be remembered for his bad plays because many came at the worst possible moments in big games. I always saw him as a poor man's Brett Favre. A lot of great, exciting plays mixed with a lot of boneheaded bad plays that left many scratching their heads. He's a gunslinger who lives and dies by taking chances. It's very difficult to win it all with a QB who has turnover issues. Show me a turnover prone QB and I'll show you a QB who probably doesn't have a SB ring except for Brett Favre and he can thank Drew Bledsoes 4 INT's for that. Romo gave it his best and I'll always have respect for him, he accomplished a lot for an undrafted free agent but it's about winning championships for me and he didn't get it done. It certainly wasn't all his fault but every QBs legacy to some degree is tied to their playoff record.


Again, I can't speak for others and I take you at your word that you haven't seen such posts, but I have seen equally ridiculous sentiments on here regarding Dak Prescott for the last 8 weeks. Perhaps you haven't become acquainted with Gabe on here, but if you haven't, you'll see exactly what I am saying.

I don't like to call posters out and I have nothing against anyone here. But forget about comparing Prescott to Brady. Nah, we skipped that. We have already proclaimed that Prescott is better than him and the best of all time.

For the last 8 weeks I have witnessed posters already proclaiming that Prescott is better than Tony Romo in every fashion possible and the ridicule has been disrespectful and down right stupid.

I'll just reiterate that alot of the folks here, some not all of course, can't just praise Dak after only 9 starts. They have to make sure to criticize Tony Romo while they are at it and it has been ridiculous.

I agree that teams should be judged by Championships, that's why even after all this time, the Cowboys are still the class of the NFL. With that said Roger Staubach and Troy Aikman are in a class all to their own. If Dak is the future here then you are right. He'll be subject to one of the toughest scrutinzed jobs in sports. As far as Romo is concerned. I am still of the opinion that he has some football left in him and just have a feeling that he'll contribute to this team in one way or the other. I understand that you disagree with that and most do. I believe that if healthy he is better than Prescott and this offense can be even better. The FO has decided to stick with Dak because the kid has definitely earned it and we should all be very excited about what this team can be for years to come.

As long as we keep winning it's all gravy, but to suggest that their hasn't been the same level of disrespect against Romo than in defense of him on this forum is wrong, and I'll just leave it at that.
 

KJJ

You Have an Axe to Grind
Messages
62,177
Reaction score
39,427
Again, I can't speak for others and I take you at your word that you haven't seen such posts, but I have seen equally ridiculous sentiments on here regarding Dak Prescott for the last 8 weeks. Perhaps you haven't become acquainted with Gabe on here, but if you haven't, you'll see exactly what I am saying.

I don't like to call posters out and I have nothing against anyone here. But forget about comparing Prescott to Brady. Nah, we skipped that. We have already proclaimed that Prescott is better than him and the best of all time.

For the last 8 weeks I have witnessed posters already proclaiming that Prescott is better than Tony Romo in every fashion possible and the ridicule has been disrespectful and down right stupid.

I'll just reiterate that alot of the folks here, some not all of course, can't just praise Dak after only 9 starts. They have to make sure to criticize Tony Romo while they are at it and it has been ridiculous.

I agree that teams should be judged by Championships, that's why even after all this time, the Cowboys are still the class of the NFL. With that said Roger Staubach and Troy Aikman are in a class all to their own. If Dak is the future here then you are right. He'll be subject to one of the toughest scrutinzed jobs in sports. As far as Romo is concerned. I am still of the opinion that he has some football left in him and just have a feeling that he'll contribute to this team in one way or the other. I understand that you disagree with that and most do. I believe that if healthy he is better than Prescott and this offense can be even better. The FO has decided to stick with Dak because the kid has definitely earned it and we should all be very excited about what this team can be for years to come.

As long as we keep winning it's all gravy, but to suggest that their hasn't been the same level of disrespect against Romo than in defense of him on this forum is wrong, and I'll just leave it at that.

I've seen a few of Gabe's posts and he has a 3 ring circus going on inside his head so I just scroll past everything he submits. The board is full of FANS who exaggerate, knee jerk and live in the moment. After the opener a couple of the most ridiculous threads ever were started by posters who were living in the moment. One is currently on the front page in the Rant Zone titled "Drafting Zeke was football stupid." Another one was titled "season is over" here's the link.

http://cowboyszone.com/threads/season-is-over.356308/

Haven't seen anyone call Dak the best of all time and were being serious about it. Romo clearly has some football left, I've never said he didn't but he can't stay healthy. Was watching some clips of him in practice yesterday and he looks like he's in discomfort when he runs. He doesn't look like he's moving very well, there's no fluidity in the way he moves. They showed him and Dak side by side, dropping back and throwing the ball and Dak looks so much quicker. It's easy to tell who the old QB is from the young QB. I can only go by what I've seen on this board and I've seen a lot more respect for Romo than disrespect, it all comes down to how you view things. If I make a few criticisms of Romo some see that as hate and disrespect. It's impossible to give one honest opinion of Romo that's negative without someone construing it for hate and disrespect. That's the nature of some FANS. I don't believe that if Romo were fully healthy that this offense would be better with him than with Dak because the read option is one of the reasons the offense has been so effective and you lose the read option with Romo. Romo has too much rust on his game for this offense to run as efficiently as it has with Dak.

Romo turns the ball over more than Dak and he takes more sacks which would further hurt this offense. Too many are stuck in 2014 with Romo and that was 2 years, several broken bones and 21 missed games ago. Even that Romo took 29 sacks in 15 games. There's simply no way a 36 year old QB who's missed as much time as Romo recovering from an assortment of injuries could step in and start playing better than Dak has played. Go look at some of the sacks Dak has avoided, NO WAY does Romo avoid those sacks. The one he avoided when the game was on the line against the Steelers in which he got the ball off to Witten was incredible! Dak can run and throw and his stats are right on par with Romo's from 2014 and his TD to turnover ratio is better. It's impossible for this offense to be better than it is without the read option and having a QB who's going to take more sacks and turn the ball over more. Dak has the 4th highest passer rating in the league this season and is second in total QBR just behind Tom Brady.
 
Last edited:

rpntex

Well-Known Member
Messages
1,470
Reaction score
1,042
None of the statements I've seen about Dak have come close to being as ridiculous as some of the statements that have been made about Romo. You have Romo FANS out there tearing Dak's game down claiming we would be undefeated and would have rolled everyone this season if Romo was the QB. Even though Dak's stats are on par with Romo's from the 2014 season with some even being better than Romo's, they claim Dak's not seeing the field very well and is holding us back despite the fact we have the best record in the entire NFL and are currently riding a franchise record tying 8 game winning streak. We're atop all the power rankings but according to some Dak's been a liability. :facepalm: You have Romo FANS hoping Dak will be injured so Romo can have one last hurrah. They would rather lose with Romo having one last opportunity at a ring, rather than win a championship with Dak. There can't be a more bizarre FAN base than this one. We may have struck gold in the 4th round with a special QB and you have some that almost appear to be pulling against him so we can go back to where we've already been with Romo. One FAN claimed if we're going to go deep into playoffs it will be with Romo despite the fact that we've never gone deep into the playoffs with Romo. Romo had the same beast of an OL in 2014 and he had a back leading the entire league in rushing just like Dak has but Romo didn't bring the read option to our offense and the ability to pull the ball down and run. Dak hasn't taken as many sacks as Romo took in 2014 and he hasn't turned the ball over as many times as Romo in 2014 which has given Dak a better TD to turnover ratio.

Some of the FANS on this board have grown up watching Romo and he's the only QB who's started for the team since they've been following the Cowboys. I can understand their devotion to him based on that but for some to think he's better than Brady, Peyton Manning and Aaron Rodgers and would have more championships if he played on the teams they did is going way overboard. Dak has given the franchise new hope and it's hard not to get excited about what he's done so far because you just don't see rookie QBs playing this well. Dak will run into some struggles, it's going to happen and the Romo FANS will jump all over him when it does. They act like Romo can do no wrong when they know that's not true. My feeling on Romo is he had his chances over 10 years as the starter and it's time to move on.

Luck has never been on his side and that was true for Meredith, Morton and Danny White who were all good QBs. Outside Cowboys Nation Romo will best be remembered for his bad plays because many came at the worst possible moments in big games. I always saw him as a poor man's Brett Favre. A lot of great, exciting plays mixed with a lot of boneheaded bad plays that left many scratching their heads. He's a gunslinger who lives and dies by taking chances. It's very difficult to win it all with a QB who has turnover issues. Show me a turnover prone QB and I'll show you a QB who probably doesn't have a SB ring except for Brett Favre and he can thank Drew Bledsoes 4 INT's for that. Romo gave it his best and I'll always have respect for him, he accomplished a lot for an undrafted free agent but it's about winning championships for me and he didn't get it done. It certainly wasn't all his fault but every QBs legacy to some degree is tied to their playoff record.

With the exception of what I highlighted above, I've seen a few posts saying exactly what you are saying. BUT, they are few in number. The VAST MAJORITY of Romo "fans" praise Romo without being negative towards Dak. I have seen just as many Dak supporters who can't praise their guy without taking shots at Romo. You asserting that one side is better or worse at this than the other is ridiculous.

I do call BS on the one statement I highlighted. I've not see one poster - not a single one - stating a hope that Dak gets injured. If it indeed happening, of course, you'll be able to post a link to such a post.
 
Top