Has your opinion of Drew changed?

[Bob Sacamano]

His whole antics after the Oakland game was unacceptable. You don't throw a temper tantrum against your own team like that. That was childish. Just because Drew couldn't deliver a 3rd game winning TD in his first 4 games was no reason for Witten to call him out like that.

all Witten said, is that he felt he was open, he didn't call out Bledsoe

 

[big_neil]

Why do they want a Mini-Vinnie? Check the stats folks... he's only got the younger part down. Stats were about the same as the fall unfolded. ...Rarely do they return to former star status.

This weekend Drew will pass both Fran Tarkenton and Vinnie Testaverde in Completions (he needs 11). Drew is 9 years younger than the (still active) Vinnie. So you're right - he is a younger Vinnie - he did what Vinnie did in 9 fewer years.

 

[big_neil]

he's older now.. He was in his prime then. Rarely do they return to former star status.

Drew currently has a higher rating than any previous year with Parcells, second only to his 1997 rating of 87 (a stat he can easily surpass this weekend with a good game). Drew is 16-8 in his last 24 games. I would argue he has more Game Winning drives this season (3) than any other QB. So it's rare, yes, but guess what? It happened.

 

[big_neil]

I would rather have the QB who can raise his playing level and make clutch throws, but...

But... you can't provide one example of a QB with more game winning drives in 2005 than Drew who has 3 (@SD, @SD, NYG) - against 2 of the best teams in the NFL to top it off.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

I'm talking about a QB who can rise above the offensive line problems around him, what many on here are asking for Bledsoe to do

I understand he can't, and needs a productive Oline, which is true

don't misunderstand me, I like Bledsoe, and I'm content with him at the moment, just would like for him, and the WHOLE offense, to step up their play, more to the problem, the Oline...

 

[Martice]

I would rather have the QB who can raise his playing level and make clutch throws, but...

that isn't Bledsoe, so I'm resigned to the fact that all Bledsoe is going to give us, is respectable #s, and that's all I'm expecting, and the hand-wringing and soul-searching, asking when is Bledsoe ever going to get rid of the ball sooner, make smart decisions all the time, side-step the rush, blah blah blah, they're not worth asking, cuz that isn't Bledsoe, he needs a great team, and Oline surrounding him

I agree Summer. Very well put.

 

[big_neil]

I'm talking about a QB who can rise above the offensive line problems around him, what many on here are asking for Bledsoe to do

Oh, you mean you are asking the impossible? Finally, I understand what many on here are asking for Bledsoe to do.

I imagine if Drew were good enough he could play all by himself. He'd throw the ball and run really fast and catch it for at TD every time.

 

[big_neil]

... but God forbid Drew drop one of his own TD passes. That just wouldn't be good enough for some of the Dallas fans here. All I'm asking is that he holds on to his own passes.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

Bledsoe needs to step up his game, bottomline

same as the whole offense, mainly the Oline

don't know how many times I'm gonna have to say this to you, but I hope this one sticks

 

[Trip]

Oh, you mean you are asking the impossible? Finally, I understand what many on here are asking for Bledsoe to do.

I imagine if Drew were good enough he could play all by himself. He'd throw the ball and run really fast and catch it for at TD every time.

Not the impossible, just what playoff-caliber QB's do. That magical place that Drew hasn't seen in a long time.

Tough to do when you're 30-30 as a starting QB the last 3+ seasons.

This is the year, though. I still believe. I may not sound like it, but that right arm of his still makes me think anything is possible.

 

[Hostile]

I'm surprised you didn't assume I was talking about Campbell's Tomato Soup. Believe it or not, there is more than one NFL player named Campbell. I'd educate you on that but you seem to be a little slow:

http://www.buffalobills.com/team/player.jsp?player_id=5560

Oh let's try it shall we? I mean since you want to give it an effort.

First of all I guess we'll start with the fact I could give a rat's butt what he did last year. He was on the Buffalo Bills and I don't care about them. I care about what he is doing this year for the Cowboys.

Now we'll focus on Mr. Campbell that caught 3 TD passes from Bledsoe in 1 game. Since it is clear that Mr. Campbel is nowhere near the TE that Jason Witten is it would lead to the invetiable conclusion that Mr. Throw it to the Tight Ends is slipping.

Congratulations on tearing your hero down a little bit more. I'm sure he'll appreciate it.

 

[big_neil]

Oh let's try it shall we? First of all I guess we'll start with the fact I could give a rat's butt (about facts and history) I don't care about them.

Ok, now I see why you can't seem to provide any insight.

 

[big_neil]

Drew's performance goes from an A to an F based on how much time he has. While other QBs don't go as low as F when the line breaks down, but they generally don't get A's when given more time. If you'd rather have a QB who stays in the C+ to C- range then get an average QB. Otherwise, fix the O-Line. My feeling is that Drew can perform just like he did in the first half if he has the protection he did then.

 

[Hostile]

Ok, now I see why you can't seem to provide any insight.

There's plenty of insight, into the game of football. You wouldn't know about that. You're too busy worshipping at the church of Drew. He's a good QB doing a good job, but there's more to the game and the team than Drew Bledsoe. It's a shame you're missing it.

 

[Scotman]

I had no opinion on Bledsoe before the season. Did not follow him well enough to know. But I'm all right with him now. But, I'd sure like to see more points out of the entire offense. That includes Key, Glenn, Jones, Witten our embattled line, the playcalling and whoever and whatever else you want to throw in there.

It's a team sport and they are all responsible. If the line can't get it done, I'd like to see Bledsoe finding someone real quick to back them off. Or to see Jones make someone pay for over rushing. Or Glenn get behind the defense when they stack the line. Somebody needs to do something. Otherwise, your defense has to keep teams under 13 points every week to give you a shot to win.

Anytime we live and die by the kicker is an insult to what an offense should be.

So is it Bledsoe's fault? Yes. Witten's? Yes. Jones? Yep. How about Parcell's and the playcalling? Yep, they share the blame too. Throw Tucker and the rest of the o-line in there, too. Crayton should have caught his ball last week as well.

There's not been a single person on offense that just makes you go "Wow!, They are tough to stop."

That's why we are on a 2 game losing streak. That's why it mattered when our kickers couldn't connect on some gimme shots.

 

[Zaxor]

Drew's performance goes from an A to an F based on how much time he has. While other QBs don't go as low as F when the line breaks down, but they generally don't get A's when given more time. If you'd rather have a QB who stays in the C+ to C- range then get an average QB. Otherwise, fix the O-Line. My feeling is that Drew can perform just like he did in the first half if he has the protection he did then.

Neil

Bledsoe passes for lots of yardage but so does Vinny T...they are just about the same guy (stats wise)...and imho not good enough to be the starting QB for the Dallas Cowboys

 

[big_neil]

Neil

Bledsoe passes for lots of yardage but so does Vinny T...they are just about the same guy (stats wise)...

Of course, you are citing your imagination as references: here is what a real argument would provide:

Vinny's avg. game: 16/29 203 Y, 1.21 TD 1.17 INT 75 R
Drew's avg. game: 20/35 232 Y, 1.30 TD 1.04 INT 78 R
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Drew has 15% more yards per game. 25% more completions per game. 8% more TDs per game, and 13% less INTs per game. Thus a higher rating. (If 3 points isn't a lot, consider Troy Aikman's rating is only 3 points higher than Drew).

 

[big_neil]

Troy's avg. game 18/29 200 Y, 1.0TD .85 INT 81 R

 

[big_neil]

Thus, per this poll:

3 out of 4 people currently like Drew.
6 of 10 liked him before and still do
1 in 6 didn't like him before and still don't
1 in 6 didn't like him before but now do
1 in 20 liked him before but no longer do

 

[Zaxor]

Of course, you are citing your imagination as references: here is what a real argument would provide:

Vinny's avg. game: 16/29 203 Y, 1.21 TD 1.17 INT 75 R
Drew's avg. game: 20/35 232 Y, 1.30 TD 1.04 INT 78 R
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Drew has 15% more yards per game. 25% more completions per game. 8% more TDs per game, and 13% less INTs per game. Thus a higher rating. (If 3 points isn't a lot, consider Troy Aikman's rating is only 3 points higher than Drew).

please...at the end of 13 years Vinny T's QBR was 80.38 Bledsoe 78... YPA Vinny T 7.49 Bledsoe 6.62
and so on and so on...Vinny T threw more INT's but Bledsoe had more sacks and fumbles...they are just about the same guy