Hatcher believes RG3 gives him best chance to win a Superbowl

[LittleBoyBlue]

So far RG3 is nothing but a coach killer.

Not only true. But so true that it is well known that he is the golden child and no coach, especially a first time coach will have enough pull to be the end all be all.

 

[WPBCowboysFan]

Not only true. But so true that it is well known that he is the golden child and no coach, especially a first time coach will have enough pull to be the end all be all.

The HC QB honeymoon will be short if they get off to a 1-3 start.

A good start will just prolong the inevitable.

Jay Gruden will be like a 2nd coming of JIm Mora in Atlanta. It'll be groundhog day. He'll be happy to get a mid level college gig in a few years.

 

[ChooChoo73]

I wish Romo was a coach killer. Be blind if you want but RG3 is very talented and is going to be a formidable adversary for a long time assuming he suffers no devastating knee injuries and assuming his ego settles down into being for his team first.

 

[jday]

i dont know if id go that far. Dallas wont have a back up qb, and everyone can bet Romo will go down for a bit. Dallas has way to many chiefs and not enough indians. I dont like Dallas depth and if it came down to coaching. i tip it to to the Skins. Jay Gruden being a wild card.

I think they can outrun us, I think after our number 1 WR and TE it gets hazy. Their defense will find a qb. We may not even stop thrown passes yet.

Foregone concluding much?

Okay, just asking...

 

[Daillest88]

Pretty ludicrous how so many of us forget the Thanksgiving game of 2012 and how he outplayed Tony in the defacto division title game. Thanksgiving was flashbacks of randy moss.

Was obvious he wasn't healthy last year, but the kid is still so young and oozing with talent. Can I have what some of you are having? Because I'd like to pretend RG3 sucks too.

yeah 2012 when there was no tape on the kid.. rg3 does suck. he has talent no doubt but 2012 gave him an ego. he already has torn his knee up twice and how old is he? look how he plays.. he plays stupid. look at the last 5 games of the season.. kid couldn't even read a defense.. and this crap about him being injured is funny, was he 100% no. but he was still faster then most players on the field. lets hope daddy doesn't have to come in the locker room this year lol

 

[Proximo]

RG3 is very talented and is going to be a formidable adversary for a long time assuming he suffers no devastating knee injuries and assuming his ego settles down into being for his team first.

Ha those are some bold assumptions.

You'd also have to assume that he actually learns how to read a defense to become this "formidable adversary for a long time".

 

[Proximo]

Can I have what some of you are having? Because I'd like to pretend RG3 sucks too.

All you need to have is some game footage from last season. Kid was straight doo doo.

No pretending required.

 

[iceberg]

RG3 is one hit away from being second string for the rest of his career, especially if he plays the way he did in year 1. .02

i think this is the point people keep forgetting. sure the kid has talent but part of that was largely due to mobility, of which it gets worse with every operation. 2009, torn ACL. the infamous crushing injury that even had haters cringing, well that was bad and imho, he was rushed back and that didn't help him at all.

we'll see and don't get me wrong, i'm not *hoping* for an injury, but he's had some pretty extensive work done to a major part of his game.

 

[dallasdave]

Hatcher and Rg3 can both watch 2 other teams in the Super Bowl from their hospital beds.

 

[ShiningStar]

Foregone concluding much?

Okay, just asking...

the question is, am i wrong? last year proved me right, im hoping for different results this year. our JG vs their Jay Gruden, who knows what Gruden brings to the table now, we know what Garrett brings. Am i impressed iwht out defensive staff so far this year, time will tell, what was it last year? Hve we turned it aorund, we dont know at this moment, i hope we do. Yes everyone is saying this and that, but this and that doesnt make for results.

Right now would you take a young RG3, vs an aginig Romo, sadly i wouldnt. We know what Romo brings, and RG3 still hasnt found out who he is. yes he has a better win record vs Romo, but Romo is who he is and even most Dallas fans never appreciated who he was.

Is Dez better than what teh Skins are trotting out Wr vs Wr, yes he is, but doe we have a solid second, I dont know right now. Yes, even our aging TE is better, do we hae a second te that is going to be the future, we are hoping, but its not emerging yet.

I can go on and on and hte only difference between my post and yours is that last year backed me up on what we all witnessed, and that was a colassal waste of a year for the Dallas Cowboys. The skins might have been behind us in standings, and true i felt they wasted a year by trying to rush RG3 back and i said that when teh skins made that decision. At this current moment, no i cant say Dallas is far better than the Skins. Can the skins work their schedule and come out better, sure, in the league of parity anything is possible.

Am i going to sit here and post Dallas is better than teh Skins, not flaunting that defense, and until that defense has some games under their belt, they havent proved it yet. Same with the Skins, so right now, i would tip some favors to the skins and id tip some favors to the Cowboys.

 

[dcowboysfan76]

He's in D.C. now, so he's just being politically correct.

 

[jday]

the question is, am i wrong? last year proved me right, im hoping for different results this year. our JG vs their Jay Gruden, who knows what Gruden brings to the table now, we know what Garrett brings. Am i impressed iwht out defensive staff so far this year, time will tell, what was it last year? Hve we turned it aorund, we dont know at this moment, i hope we do. Yes everyone is saying this and that, but this and that doesnt make for results.

Right now would you take a young RG3, vs an aginig Romo, sadly i wouldnt. We know what Romo brings, and RG3 still hasnt found out who he is. yes he has a better win record vs Romo, but Romo is who he is and even most Dallas fans never appreciated who he was.

Is Dez better than what teh Skins are trotting out Wr vs Wr, yes he is, but doe we have a solid second, I dont know right now. Yes, even our aging TE is better, do we hae a second te that is going to be the future, we are hoping, but its not emerging yet.

I can go on and on and hte only difference between my post and yours is that last year backed me up on what we all witnessed, and that was a colassal waste of a year for the Dallas Cowboys. The skins might have been behind us in standings, and true i felt they wasted a year by trying to rush RG3 back and i said that when teh skins made that decision. At this current moment, no i cant say Dallas is far better than the Skins. Can the skins work their schedule and come out better, sure, in the league of parity anything is possible.

Am i going to sit here and post Dallas is better than teh Skins, not flaunting that defense, and until that defense has some games under their belt, they havent proved it yet. Same with the Skins, so right now, i would tip some favors to the skins and id tip some favors to the Cowboys.

At this point, I honestly don't care how we stack up against the Commanders. While I am samewhat happy with the overall direction of the team, I do not believe the team is a draft a way from playoff contention. It is my personal opinion the Cowboys are in desperate need of help at DE more than any other position. And I do not believe that DE will be available in this draft for the Cowboys...but I could be wrong...I hope I am. The 2nd receiver position is worthy of concern, but the defense as a whole was horrible last year, and we just lost several starters to that group...meaning we are really hoping Tyron Crawford and a handful of scrap heap players, at this point, can not just replace those starters production, but improve upon it dramatically.

Considering what the Cowboys do have presently as receivers, I would say on the offensive side of the ball the offensive line, particularly at Guard should be higher on the Cowboys list of priorties. I am curious about Dri Archer's potential as a Slot Receiver. If he is still avaible in the 5th round at 158, I'd love to see the Cowboys take him. But my guess is, the Saint will be looking to replace Sproles and would take him late in the fourth at pick 126, if he falls that far.

 

[ChooChoo73]

Ha those are some bold assumptions.

You'd also have to assume that he actually learns how to read a defense to become this "formidable adversary for a long time".

Big assumptions for sure but there are few two year players where there aren't assumptions. Have you noticed every game we have played against him we have struggled and lost our share? This before as you suggested he has not learned to read defenses.

 

[Proximo]

Big assumptions for sure but there are few two year players where there aren't assumptions. Have you noticed every game we have played against him we have struggled and lost our share? This before as you suggested he has not learned to read defenses.

LOL we certainly didnt struggle against him this past year, and he was so bad he was warming the bench by the time our 2nd matchup came around.

Dude was absolutely terrible this past season.

 

[Proximo]

Have you noticed every game we have played against him we have struggled

Bahahaha and just to destroy this ridiculous statement even further, here's how your golden boy RG3 faired against Dallas in 2013. Keep in mind he was facing literally the worst Dallas defense ever......

19/39 for 246 yards and an int, no TD's. QB rating of 58.3

Dallas won that game 31-16 by the way.

I guess we have very different definitions of the word "struggled" hahaha

 

[iceberg]

Big assumptions for sure but there are few two year players where there aren't assumptions. Have you noticed every game we have played against him we have struggled and lost our share? This before as you suggested he has not learned to read defenses.

with our defense the last few years, this can apply to every game, dude.

 

[ShiningStar]

At this point, I honestly don't care how we stack up against the Commanders. While I am samewhat happy with the overall direction of the team, I do not believe the team is a draft a way from playoff contention. It is my personal opinion the Cowboys are in desperate need of help at DE more than any other position. And I do not believe that DE will be available in this draft for the Cowboys...but I could be wrong...I hope I am. The 2nd receiver position is worthy of concern, but the defense as a whole was horrible last year, and we just lost several starters to that group...meaning we are really hoping Tyron Crawford and a handful of scrap heap players, at this point, can not just replace those starters production, but improve upon it dramatically.

Considering what the Cowboys do have presently as receivers, I would say on the offensive side of the ball the offensive line, particularly at Guard should be higher on the Cowboys list of priorties. I am curious about Dri Archer's potential as a Slot Receiver. If he is still avaible in the 5th round at 158, I'd love to see the Cowboys take him. But my guess is, the Saint will be looking to replace Sproles and would take him late in the fourth at pick 126, if he falls that far.

Thats all well and good but we dont know how the draft will go down. So even before the draft i dont know how this team will stack up and i wont say " well Dallas is better just because"

I like what you are seeing, but we wont know what we get in the draft til the draft is over and than we wont even know what we have til years later.

Currently is what i am worried about and this is what the coaches are paid to do. They dont have the luxuries of the "what ifs" or the :how about this" They have to work with what the personnel gets them and make due with the ingredients and right now i am goign to give the defense a pass beacuse now they are under Marinelli and not Kiffen, hopefully.

The offense i am happy with the line, now the questions that plague the team? What does Linehan bring, can this offense keep teh chains moving when it counts and keep the defense off the field.

 

[Califan007]

From what I read Hatcher didn't say Griffin gave him the "best chance" to win a Super Bowl...he just said he believed Griffin would get them there:

Dianna Marie Russini ‏@NBCdianna Apr 17
Jason Hatcher says he chose to play for Washington because he believes RG3 will take them to the Super Bowl.

Me: Did you ever talk to RG3 before you signed here? @hatcher97: We chatted a good bit when I was getting off him after I sacked him!

Jason Hatcher: "RG3 @RGIII can take me to a Super Bowl. This is my last ride. I know he can...I know he will"


I don't see anything in there about "best chance".

 

[jobberone]

Talk is cheap.

 

[AsthmaField]

Big assumptions for sure but there are few two year players where there aren't assumptions. Have you noticed every game we have played against him we have struggled and lost our share? This before as you suggested he has not learned to read defenses.

That's just as well too, because he damn sure didn't have to read our defense last year. It was horrible and he still couldn't manage to win either time. Of course he ended up getting benched late last season, but he had two goes at the Dallas D.

Now the year before the defense was horrible and he did manage to win... barely. Guys were flat out running wide *** open in the secondary during that Thanksgiving game in 2012.