Twitter: Helman practice notes

[tyke1doe]

Being first to report something on twitter, is not a big deal. Well maybe in their heads it is lol.
And this is all just practice, and early practice at that, so what players are doing now is not that important.
the only thing that was interesting was pollard seeing a lot of action. That means coaches are checking him out.

That's nowhere near the truth. Media rely on twitter for breaking news. It's the quickest thing going now.

 

[MikeB80]

Feel free to provide a few examples of Rappaport being “wrong a lot.”

The ironic thing here is Rapapport got the inside scoop before the local journalists were able to report.

do the research. He has posted all kinds of stuff wrong through the years.

also he got the info because a reporter who I will not name gave it to him so he could break it even though he/she knew it was against the rules. Everyone else followed the rules the cowboys set in place and this person did not. It's a pretty lousy thing to do to the group of local reporters who have been covering this team for decades. This person knew better and did it anyway.

 

[DandyDon52]

That's nowhere near the truth. Media rely on twitter for breaking news. It's the quickest thing going now.

so explain why or how not being first hurts or being first helps those reporting there.
It is all imo ego and in their minds and maybe yours too.

 

[CalPolyTechnique]

do the research. He has posted all kinds of stuff wrong through the years.

also he got the info because a reporter who I will not name gave it to him so he could break it even though he/she knew it was against the rules. Everyone else followed the rules the cowboys set in place and this person did not. It's a pretty lousy thing to do to the group of local reporters who have been covering this team for decades. This person knew better and did it anyway.

You made the claim. You back it up.

You’re talking out your arse.

 

[MikeB80]

You made the claim. You back it up.

You’re talking out your arse.

except I'm not. I am also not going to go track down all the dumb things he has said and waste my time.

 

[CalPolyTechnique]

except I'm not. I am also not going to go track down all the dumb things he has said and waste my time.

Lool.

 

[MikeB80]

Lool.

there are literally a ton of instances where he was wrong. Simply search his name on google.

Not sure what the issue is here.

 

[blueblood70]

last years camp this is all we heard about our DBs making plays, real games came and we had one of the lowest turnover seasons in our history, especially INTs..crickets..TC is to get them in shape and confident, real games will separate the Jags from the stars,

hows Diggs doing?

 

[Future]

To insiders, it matters ALOT.
Shefty has ascended to the ranks of top insider because he is always breaking information FIRST.

You give him too much credit. He's just the middle man between the NFL and page clicks/views.

He "breaks" news first, because he's ESPN. You could put ANYBODY there, and they'd have the same ability.

 

[tyke1doe]

so explain why or how not being first hurts or being first helps those reporting there.
It is all imo ego and in their minds and maybe yours too.

Why would a drug company want to be the first to discover a vaccination?
Why would a car company want to be the first to add a new innovation to its product?
Why would a food company want to be the first to offer a particular flavor?

Being FIRST shows innovation, hard work, diligence ... qualities that appeal to consumers and readers.

So if Rapp has the information first, it establishes his initiative and, over time, his trustworthiness. Who wants to be the second person to break the news and hear, "Oh, well, we read that first in Rapp's twitter feed."

Yes, that means something to editors, producers and the higher-ups in news media companies.

 

[tyke1doe]

You give him too much credit. He's just the middle man between the NFL and page clicks/views.

He "breaks" news first, because he's ESPN. You could put ANYBODY there, and they'd have the same ability.

That's not true.

You have to cultivate sources. Shefty has done that over the years, first starting with the Denver Broncos. Not every one can do it, and, believe me, a lot of sports writers want to but can't.

Moreover, remember, Shefty came from NFL Network. ESPN hired him away from there because he was THAT good. He's all over the place and has more breaking news stories than any other insider.

 

[Future]

That's not true.

You have to cultivate sources. Shefty has done that over the years, first starting with the Denver Broncos. Not every one can do it, and, believe me, a lot of sports writers want to but can't.

Moreover, remember, Shefty came from NFL Network. ESPN hired him away from there because he was THAT good. He's all over the place and has more breaking news stories than any other insider.

He's good b/c he's an extension of the networks, not because he's a great journalist.

There's really no such thing as breaking news. Teams either let you have it or don't.

 

[tyke1doe]

He's good b/c he's an extension of the networks, not because he's a great journalist.

There's really no such thing as breaking news. Teams either let you have it or don't.

He was good before he got to the networks. That's why he's where he is.

Second, Shefty breaks news teams don't want released also. He does this because his source list is extensive and includes players, coaches, management, personnel and owners.

The man has an extensive roledex.

 

[Future]

He was good before he got to the networks. That's why he's where he is.

Second, Shefty breaks news teams don't want released also. He does this because his source list is extensive and includes players, coaches, management, personnel and owners.

The man has an extensive roledex.

Not really. When you do that, you lose your sources.

 

[tyke1doe]

Not really. When you do that, you lose your sources.

No, you don't.
You do if you BURN sources. But not if you break news.
Besides, the difference between rookie reporters and established reporters is that the latter have built years of credibility. So, even though a team or owner may not like a particular story, because the reporter has built up such a reputation based on overall credibility, it's going to be hard to get rid of him. The reporter's body of work speaks for itself.
Young reporters don't have the same credibility. So they're easily intimidated.
Besides, owners and teams know the business of sports reporting. They know to take the good stories with the bad.

 

[Future]

No, you don't.
You do if you BURN sources. But not if you break news.
Besides, the difference between rookie reporters and established reporters is that the latter have built years of credibility. So, even though a team or owner may not like a particular story, because the reporter has built up such a reputation based on overall credibility, it's going to be hard to get rid of him. The reporter's body of work speaks for itself.
Young reporters don't have the same credibility. So they're easily intimidated.
Besides, owners and teams know the business of sports reporting. They know to take the good stories with the bad.

Yawn.

All reporters are privy to what teams allow them to have. Releasing information, whether it "burns" someone or not, that a team doesn't want you to release, will cause them to cut access.

We are seeing this across the league right now, where reporters aren't allowed to tweet any specifics about depth charts, formations, etc. Teams aren't allowing it, doesn't matter who the reporters are.

 

[Redball Express]

I get why it sucks but in reality the Cowboys could just block all media from viewing practice and then they'd really be complaining.

Also, does it really matter who reported McCoy's injury first? I never remember who broke a story, I just remember the actual story. LOL.

And it's strange from the standpoint of intentionally delaying news.

What is the reason?

Has there been some situation reported that was fake news of something?

anybody got an explanation.?

 

[DandyDon52]

Why would a drug company want to be the first to discover a vaccination?
Why would a car company want to be the first to add a new innovation to its product?
Why would a food company want to be the first to offer a particular flavor?

Being FIRST shows innovation, hard work, diligence ... qualities that appeal to consumers and readers.

So if Rapp has the information first, it establishes his initiative and, over time, his trustworthiness. Who wants to be the second person to break the news and hear, "Oh, well, we read that first in Rapp's twitter feed."

Yes, that means something to editors, producers and the higher-ups in news media companies.

your examples all come down to money.
Why would a drug company want to be the first to discover a vaccination?
Why would a car company want to be the first to add a new innovation to its product?
Why would a food company want to be the first to offer a particular flavor?.....all about money

Being FIRST shows innovation, hard work, diligence ... qualities that appeal to consumers and readers......it has some merit but is over rated.

So if Rapp has the information first, it establishes his initiative and, over time, his trustworthiness. Who wants to be the second person to break the news and hear, "Oh, well, we read that first in Rapp's twitter feed." Well I dont follow anyone on twitter, and I doubt anyone follows all the news reporters, and looks at
time stamps then compares to see who is first. Anyone should know rapp is cheating in this instance also.

Yes, that means something to editors, producers and the higher-ups in news media companies......sadly this is probably true.

 

[tyke1doe]

Yawn.

All reporters are privy to what teams allow them to have. Releasing information, whether it "burns" someone or not, that a team doesn't want you to release, will cause them to cut access.

All information doesn't come from the team, though. And teams may have a timetable of when they want to release information. That's where breaking news comes in. The insider breaks news that the team may not want released. Furthermore, not all teams want to you have ALL information about the team. That's where sources come in.

Second, it doesn't seem as if you know what "burning" a source means.

Third, let's see if Rapoport has his access cut. I doubt he will.

Furthermore, even if a reporter has his access cut, an enterprising reporter still can get a story without relying on a team's PR rep.

We are seeing this across the league right now, where reporters aren't allowed to tweet any specifics about depth charts, formations, etc. Teams aren't allowing it, doesn't matter who the reporters are.

Actually, that has traditionally been the case. Reporters have agreements not to share certain information or to share it at a particular time. It's called an "embargo."

 

[tyke1doe]

your examples all come down to money.
Why would a drug company want to be the first to discover a vaccination?
Why would a car company want to be the first to add a new innovation to its product?
Why would a food company want to be the first to offer a particular flavor?.....all about money

Uh, the news business is about money. You think ABC, NBC, CBS, Fox Sports and ESPN are providing their services for free?
Getting information FIRST establishes your credibility, which means people will tune into your station for reliable, credible and quick information. That translates into dollars.

Well I dont follow anyone on twitter, and I doubt anyone follows all the news reporters, and looks at
time stamps then compares to see who is first. Anyone should know rapp is cheating in this instance also.

Well, maybe YOU don't follow anyone on twitter but others do. I've been in news stations and many chart the social media progress of their reporters.

Second, many fans don't care if he's cheating. Just as long as he feeds them information first, they're satisfied.

Yes, that means something to editors, producers and the higher-ups in news media companies......sadly this is probably true.

That's capitalism for ya. Shrug.