Henry changes that game bottom line

[03EBZ06]

TNew+Henry+Reeves >>>>>> TNew+Reeves+N. Jones

I don't know how much of impact Henry would have had against the Pats but with Henry in the lineup, I don't believe Brady would have all those passing yards and TDs.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

why bother arguing w/ bbgun?

he doesn't understand that w/ Henry healthy, we would have had someone other than the slow Nate Jones covering the quick as hell Welker in the slot, basic football understanding, idk, a fast, quick player covering a fast, quick player instead of a slow player covering a fast, quick player makes a hell of a difference

Not all of us are detached from reality.

if any Pat fans knew your MO, they would laugh off your lame attempt at an apology

it's cute how bbgun immediately goes back to the argument that has yet to be posted, except by him, that Henry would have won the game for us, after the rest of y'all already refuted that that is what's being said

 

[theogt]

It only would have made a difference to pointspread junkies and bookies. When you trail 14-0 in the blink of an eye and end up losing by 21, what happens inbetween is irrelevant. We don't do "moral victories" around here. Henry's been burned in the past and the notion that he would have turned in a Deion-esque performance (or that Brady wouldn't have adjusted) is wishful thinking. Funny how Henry would have made all the difference but guys like Seymour, Maroney and Watson and deemed inconsequential. Did I say funny? I meant woefully predictable. Take your licking, give the Pats their due, drop the pathetic "what if" games, and get on with your life.

It's irrelevant only if it's convenient to your point. You've completely side-stepped my post. Nicely done, but I'm not dumb enough to not notice. I'll gladly accept your white flag.

 

[Oldschool7]

+1

Even if Henry makes a difference in just two of those many 3rd down conversions--it changes everything.

 

[bbgun]

why bother arguing w/ bbgun?

he doesn't understand that w/ Henry healthy, we would have had someone other than the slow Nate Jones covering the quick as hell Welker in the slot, basic football understanding, idk, a fast, quick player covering a fast, quick player instead of a slow player covering a fast, quick player makes a hell of a difference

You're right. Lord knows no quarterback has ever put up a lot of points when T-New and Henry were both starting. Why it's as if last December never happened! Or Game 1 of 2007! No doubt Henry would have been Brady's kryptonite.

if any Pat fans knew your MO, they would laugh off your lame attempt at an apology

Well somebody had to be the adult around here.

it's cute how bbgun immediately goes back to the argument that has yet to be posted, except by him, that Henry would have won the game for us, after the rest of y'all already refuted that that is what's being said

Oh really? That wasn't implied? Then what was the point of the thread? That we could have covered the spread? That we could have taken less of a beating? Screw your hypotheticals and petty what ifs. It's very unbecoming.

 

[eduncan22]

The last thing we need is Henry covering Moss.

Think about what happened in Week 1...

3rd play of the game..Plaxico and Henry.

 

[bbgun]

It's irrelevant only if it's convenient to your point. You've completely side-stepped my post. Nicely done, but I'm not dumb enough to not notice. I'll gladly accept your white flag.

Surrender to you? That's laughable. I suggest you curl up with your mock draft trophy (your greatest life accomplishment to date) and call it a night.

 

[theogt]

Surrender to you? That's laughable. I suggest you curl up with your mock draft trophy (your greatest life accomplishment to date) and call it a night.

*snuggles and caresses trophy*

 

[PBJTime]

Well somebody had to be the adult around here.

Narcissistic much?

 

[Bob Sacamano]

You're right. Lord knows no quarterback has ever put up a lot of points when T-New and Henry were both starting. Why it's as if last December never happened! Or Game 1 of 2007! No doubt Henry would have been Brady's kryptonite.

you think Welker has a career day in yardage and scores 2 TDs against Newman? riiiight

Well somebody had to be the adult around here.

:laugh2:

Oh really? That wasn't implied? Then what was the point of the thread? That we could have covered the spread? That we could have taken less of a beating? Screw your hypotheticals and petty what ifs. It's very unbecoming.

and reading between the lines is becoming? the only thing that was said was that Henry in the game would have made a big difference, which is true, that Nate Jones wouldn't have been on the field very often, and consequently, someone fast, not slow, would have been covering Wes Welker, who is fast

 

[Jack-Reacher]

*snuggles and caresses trophy*

That is the funniest thing I have ever seen you write theo...

 

[RomoFan4ever]

To be frank, it's been proven in the last 2 seasons that receivers that have the calibur of Moss tends to give Henry matchup nightmares.

IF we had Newman with Henry against the Gints in wk 1, they wouldn't have torned our secondary. However-the overall personnel in NE just gives our secondary matchup nightmares, with or without Henry.

And yes-don't kid yourself, Seymour IS the difference maker on that NE D. Their run D has taken a bit of a hit(this is Jarvis Green's weakness), and Seymour's presence allows Ty Warren to be a primary pass rusher.

BTW-why is everyone making a big deal over this? It wasn't like we played an NFCE opponent.

 

[TheCount]

I love threads like these. Before the season started, how many of you were ready to get rid of Anthony Henry for being too old, being too slow, and so on and so on, now he's our savior.

 

[RomoFan4ever]

I love threads like these. Before the season started, how many of you were ready to get rid of Anthony Henry for being too old, being too slow, and so on and so on, now he's our savior.

Same thing happened to Flo 2 years ago-we HATED him b/c he didn't have his head in the game 1/2 of the time(i.e. his false starts, and his holding call in the 1st Skins game that negated a Keyshawn 1st down that would have ended the game-and it lead to all that brew-ha-hah Skins miraculous comeback).

But after he went down in the second half, we ALL realized how he was literally the MVP of this O, as it went down the crapper.

 

[smarta5150]

I love threads like these. Before the season started, how many of you were ready to get rid of Anthony Henry for being too old, being too slow, and so on and so on, now he's our savior.

Try not to generalize.

You are assuming that everyone on this thread arguing that Henry would have helped us are the same people who wanted to get rid of him.

I for one never threw Henry under the bus.

EDIT:

And once again.. Henry wouldnt be our savior directly.

Its the match ups we create such as Newman on the slot man.

 

[theogt]

I love threads like these. Before the season started, how many of you were ready to get rid of Anthony Henry for being too old, being too slow, and so on and so on, now he's our savior.

Yeah, how many people would have wanted to go in to the Patriots game with Nate Jones instead of Henry? Like everyone, duh.

 

[Chocolate Lab]

Don't you love it when you start a thread with a perfectly reasonable premise and certain posters have to come in and crap it all up?

 

[smarta5150]

I loved the original post.

Wasn't very "original" since everyone talked about the absence of Henry and the negatives that would follow all week.

And then the game proved it.

I don't get how some members cannot see how Henry in the game would have been a positive impact.

 

[chinch]

Maroney and Seymour were out for them.

Think they might have played better if they had them?

It works both ways.

i think NE would have scored alot less TDs if they tried to actually establish a running game, as opposed to playing school-yard football against our gimpy secondary and scoring at will long & short never failing to convert a 3rd down.

but whatever the game is over and we were embarrassed.

 

[CATCH17]

bbgun im not saying the great Anthony Henry is going to go out there and be a world beater.

I just think with him out there we get off the field a few more times on 3rd down.

We were great on 1st and 2nd. They just owned us on 3rd with the slot receiver.

Im tired of speaking logical though.

Heck my boy smart even drew you a freakin picture and you still dont get it.

So what ever you want to believe is fine by me dude.

Edit:

I just figured it out bbgun is Nate Jones.