Henson, Romo ...Bill

Aside from Bill just being his ornery self,I think it is a means of testing Henson's mental make-up and commitment.
While I would have loved to see Henson play more last year,I have no complaints about Parcells development of QB's
The sink or swim theory is not in Henson's or the teams best interest IMO.
 
Zaxor said:
Henson is completely behind what...ROMO?!!

Romo sucked much more than Henson during preseason last year...there is visible evidence of that...

Just my two cents, but I think you both are underestimating Romo while at the same time overinflating Henson...based on what, I don't know. Henson has only been on the team a little over a year and he's played what, a grand total of 2 1/2 quarters?

Although Romo has never even played in a real game, I find it somewhat amusing that a few people believe he 'sucks' simply based on Exhibition play.
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(after last pre-season, some would have thought Ron Dayne was a better RB than Tiki Barber)

I suppose any of us can have a "gut" feeling about one QB or the other but to me, saying Romo "sucks" because of what you thought you saw in some meaningless pre-season game(s) isn't being very fair to the guy. Just like it isn't fair or accurate to say Henson 'sucks' because of that real winner of a first half performance he threw out there versus Chicago. And that was even during the regular season.

Regarding personalities, I do that Parcells seems to have less affection for Henson than Romo, for whatever reason. Maybe it's some psychological ploy. All we can do is speculate about that one. Basically, I'm for getting behind both guys instead of supporting one at the expense of the other.

BTW, Happy 4th everyone!!
 
Waffle said:
Regarding personalities, I do that Parcells seems to have less affection for Henson than Romo, for whatever reason.

What I don't get is the notion that for some reason, Coach Parcells does not "like" Henson.

I guess that fits conspiracy theory, but since when has he ever "liked" any of his QBs?

Ask Phil Simms. For the most part, he is a borderline sadist when it comes to them and their psyche. That is how he does business.

If you want definitie proof how little excessive praise from your coaching staff means to the success of your young QB, I have two words: Bruce Coslet.
 
Alexander said:
What I don't get is the notion that for some reason, Coach Parcells does not "like" Henson.

I guess that fits conspiracy theory, but since when has he ever "liked" any of his QBs?

Ask Phil Simms. For the most part, he is a borderline sadist when it comes to them and their psyche. That is how he does business.

If you want definitie proof how little excessive praise from your coaching staff means to the success of your young QB, I have two words: Bruce Coslet.

I simply said "affection." Maybe it's for public consumption, who knows. BP has never said "don't forget about Henson now" when people talk about the QB situation. He's never said Henson's got "moxie" or that he'd like to "kill him", which was actually a compliment to Romo.

I'm not saying Parcells doesn't like Henson, just that he gives Romo more praise in the media. Maybe it's by design.
 
Its this simple:

Rono has vastly more relevant football experience. Henson had started what 8 games since 1997 and was 3 years out of football. I suspect if you had to narrow down all the things Parcells "might" hold against him its that. He chose baseball over football.

Parcells also has gotten on Romo publicly. Lets see how this all unfolds. I might trade Henson for a high pick if I could and go get a vet backup to add to the mix. It's Bledsoe's job anyway. We are talking about who is backup.

Can Romo beat him out again this year out of camp!
 
Waffle said:
I simply said "affection." Maybe it's for public consumption, who knows. BP has never said "don't forget about Henson now" when people talk about the QB situation. He's never said Henson's got "moxie" or that he'd like to "kill him", which was actually a compliment to Romo.

I'm not saying Parcells doesn't like Henson, just that he gives Romo more praise in the media. Maybe it's by design.

And again that is where the problem lies... he seems to take great joy in doing so (undercutting Henson) if it is for testing his metal perhaps he ought to do it for Romo who cracked under pressure by the way at the PGA thingy...

I think Romo may someday make a good 3rd QB... I have seen him now for 2 years in preseason... he seems to have problems reading those vanilla defenses... and even when Bill just gives him one side of the field to concentrate on his passes are not accurate...maybe others have seen differently...I like Romo's fire I just question if he has all the tools necessary to do the job
 
Nors said:
Its this simple:

Rono has vastly more relevant football experience. Henson had started what 8 games since 1997 and was 3 years out of football. I suspect if you had to narrow down all the things Parcells "might" hold against him its that. He chose baseball over football.

Parcells also has gotten on Romo publicly. Lets see how this all unfolds. I might trade Henson for a high pick if I could and go get a vet backup to add to the mix. It's Bledsoe's job anyway. We are talking about who is backup.

Can Romo beat him out again this year out of camp!

I don't think so Nors...Parcells loves baseball and did not hold it against Q

As far as getting on Romo publicly I for one have never heard it or read about it...I would be real interested in hearing or reading it if you know where I can find it

Trading Henson might be a good thing for Henson...but it leaves the Cowboys without a quality QB:D...

really think about it... what ever is left is not good enough for the Dallas Cowboys...You would have a never was and a never will be
 
Zaxor said:
I think there is something in Henson's persona that Bill does not like so he needles him..it has nothing to do with Henson's football skills or professionalism...Bill will sometimes realize this and throw Henson a bone...but still something about Henson rubs Parcells the wrong way... maybe they are both the same side of a coin...

Anyone think this is a possibility or am I chasing shadows

I think you're on to something here.

Parcells thinks Henson is a clown.
 
Zaxor said:
And again that is where the problem lies... he seems to take great joy in doing so (undercutting Henson) if it is for testing his metal perhaps he ought to do it for Romo who cracked under pressure by the way at the PGA thingy...

I think Romo may someday make a good 3rd QB... I have seen him now for 2 years in preseason... he seems to have problems reading those vanilla defenses... and even when Bill just gives him one side of the field to concentrate on his passes are not accurate...maybe others have seen differently...I like Romo's fire I just question if he has all the tools necessary to do the job

You know nothing about qualifying for the US Open as an AMATEUER, Romo is playing against all the best amateurs and PROFESSIONAL golfers in the US. its a tremendous accomplishment to do what he did.

I sense you watched last 2 preseason with shaded glasses. Did you watch Henson against the Bears. Live in a glass house? Be carefull!

I don't see anything that makes Henson "great" as you contend. Nor for that matter see any merit to all the Romo sux blanket staments.....


Have a great 4th of July!
 
Banned_n_austin said:
I think you're on to something here.

Parcells thinks Henson is a clown.

Yeah I think you may be right and of all the positions on the football field Parcells is always wrong when it come to Qb's
 
Zaxor said:
I don't think so Nors...Parcells loves baseball and did not hold it against Q

As far as getting on Romo publicly I for one have never heard it or read about it...I would be real interested in hearing or reading it if you know where I can find it

Trading Henson might be a good thing for Henson...but it leaves the Cowboys without a quality QB:D...

really think about it... what ever is left is not good enough for the Dallas Cowboys...You would have a never was and a never will be

After one of the preseason games he called Romo a gunslinger and sometimes he wanted to kill him for what he was trying out there. Thats the only quote I can remember as bad - he does gush praise his way a lot. I'm sure half is to light a fire under Drew.
 
Nors said:
I sense you watched last 2 preseason with shaded glasses. Did you watch Henson against the Bears. Live in a glass house? Be carefull!

I don't see anything that makes Henson "great" as you contend. Nor for that matter see any merit to all the Romo sux blanket staments.....

That's kinda where I was coming from on this.
 
Zaxor - You keep saying Romo sucked and Henson was great in preseason. Please temper your alteration of what really happened in preseason camp.
Thanks

Reserves lead Cowboys past Chiefs 24-20


NFL.com wire reports

IRVING, Texas (Sept. 2, 2004) -- After seeing the way his aging running back, even older quarterback and questionable group of cornerbacks closed the preseason, Bill Parcells considers the Dallas Cowboys still a work in progress.

"I'm going to be looking at the waiver wire, that's for sure. I'm going to be looking pretty close," Parcells said following a 24-20 victory against the Kansas City Chiefs. "We've got to try to improve our talent level a little bit. Anybody can tell from looking at us."

Dallas' starters were unimpressive, with Vinny Testaverde hitting nearly as many defensive backs as receivers and Eddie George having more carries than yards. Kansas City was slowed early by penalties, then had consecutive touchdown drives by throwing at the Cowboys' right cornerbacks.

Once both teams started taking out their starters, Dallas backup quarterback Tony Romo led three consecutive scoring drives and the defense made it hold up. The Cowboys finished the preseason 3-1, Kansas City went 1-3.

Romo, who never played while an undrafted rookie last season, went 12-for-14 for 141 yards. He led a drive that culminated in a field goal right before halftime and led TD drives of 70 and 65 yards in the third quarter, taking the Cowboys from down 14-7 to ahead 24-14.

Romo likely won the second-string spot, especially since Drew Henson went 0-for-4 with an interception on his first pass.

"I've been gaining confidence each week," said Romo, who ran for the winning touchdown in the last minute of another preseason game. "I was able to get into a rhythm tonight and our wide receivers and offensive line did great work."


Even in defeat, Chiefs coach Dick Vermeil felt good because starting quarterback Trent Green completed 7-of-9 passes for 72 yards and a touchdown, then backup Todd Collins went 5-for-5 for 104 yards with a 53-yard TD pass.

"They put in a pretty good day's work," Vermeil said. "Both quarterbacks can keep performing the way they have been and I will stay happy."

Third-stringer Damon Huard played nearly the entire second half, but managed only two field goals. He failed to convert third-and-4 from the 9 for the second field goal, then, on the next drive, the Chiefs had a third-and-2 from the Dallas 10 and ended up turning the ball over on downs.

Kansas City's Pro Bowl safety Jerome Woods had an interception in his return from a hamstring injury and Lawrence Tynes continued his bid to beat out Morten Andersen by making fourth-quarter field goals of 46 and 27 yards.

The most important thing in all preseason finales is avoiding injuries. The most serious was Dallas offensive lineman Stephen Peterman, a third-round pick, hurting his right knee and likely going out for the season.

This was the third game in 11 days for both teams, with Dallas only three days removed from its previous outing. Vermeil said the short turnaround time means "it becomes the entertainment business then."

It wasn't too entertaining when the Cowboys' first-team offense was playing.

Testaverde was 4-of-10 for 40 yards, with Woods' interception. He missed Keyshawn Johnson all five times he threw his way; cornerback William Bartee came closer to catching the first two and the last one was redeemed by a pass interference call.

George gained only 8 yards on nine carries against the Chiefs' first-team defense, which has had its problems stopping the run. He finished the preseason with 51 yards on 24 carries.

His longest this game went 3 yards. His last two went for minus-4 yards and no gain.

George especially looked slow on a pitch to the left side. A hole was open, but closed by the time he arrived; he gained only 2 yards.

"I have to relax as much as possible and take what the defense gives me," George said. "I'll continue to work hard, look at my mistakes and move on."

George looked even worse when 32-year-old Richie Anderson ran for 6 yards and 31 on the next two plays. George returned to cap the drive by scoring from the 3, breaking one tackle at the line to step into the end zone for his first touchdown of the preseason.

The Cowboys never turned to their future at the position, rookie Julius Jones, because he hurt his ribs three nights earlier.

"If this [were] the regular season, there would've been a lot more pressure on him to play," Parcells said. "He's going to have to suck it up when it counts."
 
Nors said:
You know nothing about qualifying for the US Open as an AMATEUER, Romo is playing against all the best amateurs and PROFESSIONAL golfers in the US. its a tremendous accomplishment to do what he did.

I sense you watched last 2 preseason with shaded glasses. Did you watch Henson against the Bears. Live in a glass house? Be carefull!

I don't see anything that makes Henson "great" as you contend. Nor for that matter see any merit to all the Romo sux blanket staments.....


Have a great 4th of July!

Did it not come down to the last hole and did Romo not choke or did I not read that right?

as far as the preseason goes...Nors he underthrew a pass that R. Williams had to shove the defender on to catch the pass for a touchdown against Houston...on that pass his mechanics are all messed up..... Now I ain't hammering Romo what can you expect for an undrafted FA...I gave him a compliment by saying I think he could make a decent 3rd someday...and I do think so it might take another 2 years though if he devotes his entire time to football

I seen Henson against the Bears...also against the Ravens...was not discourage one little bit...where you expecting Staubach or something...
for a first start plus with all the variables I have to give it a C+/B- performance... If that is the worst performance he ever does he may be a HOF'r
 
Banned_n_austin said:
Those are good stats by Romo ...


Yep, with stats like that, its amazing that not one single team drafted him. What a bunch of dullards those guys must be.

:D
 
http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/live/NFL_20040814_DAL@HOU

Texans

this is an x-baseball player...leading the way

Romo 3 out of 11 for a whopping 37 yards and 2 ints

Henson (very first game back) 8 out of 11 for 94 yards and 1 int

http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/live/NFL_20040821_DAL@OAK



again

Romo 5 out of 10 for a whopping 40 yards

Henson 7 out of 9 for 53


and to think this guy is almost newborn new..think what he would have done to Romo had he Romo's experience...

http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/live/[email protected]

Romo was 4 for 4 for a whopping 32 yards

Henson 6 for 9 for 69 yards
 
Nors said:
After one of the preseason games he called Romo a gunslinger and sometimes he wanted to kill him for what he was trying out there. Thats the only quote I can remember as bad - he does gush praise his way a lot. I'm sure half is to light a fire under Drew.

Nors I believe he said that with affection... He is trying to undermine Henson is what he is trying to do...and perhaps only because he might be a fan or media favorite...I can't say I agree with Bill on this one
 
Nors Romo played almost that whole KC game...Henson was allowed 4 passes and each was deep...KC had no defense at all last year so any #'s romo put up must be looked at with that tidbit of knowledge
 
If someone wants to believe Romo isn't very good, that's fine with me. I don't see how one can make that determination based on ZERO regular season experience, but oh well. On the flip side, what we've seen of Henson so far sure doesn't make the guy a shoe-in for Aikman/Staubach status either.

Now we've all seen PLENTY of Drew Bledsoe over the years. At least the criticism/praise for him can be based on something substantative.
 

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