Henson, Romo ...Bill

[dbair1967]

Thats nice speculation, fact is Henson chose baseball over football for 3 seasons.

nice speculation? what?

it just eats you up when someone posts facts to discount your b/s doesnt it?

David

 

[dbair1967]

Its this simple:

Rono has vastly more relevant football experience. Henson had started what 8 games since 1997 and was 3 years out of football.
!

you keep bringing this up, but Romo hasnt started a game of any kind in over two years has he? and when he DID have a chance to start, he wasnt picked was he?

or is this just more "speculation" on my behalf?



David

 

[Chocolate Lab]

Good questions, Zax...

I don't know if anyone can figure out Parcells' thinking on Henson. I never could reconcile JJT's detailing of Parcells' calling Lloyd Carr, talking to his friends in the Yankees organization, meeting with Henson personally, and so on with his seeming indifference toward him since. So here's a theory for you: Maybe Parcells never intended to have Henson run his team.

At the time, Parcells had a fairly successful season under his belt with Quincy and seemed to think that he could improve further with both more experience and a better team around him. He also was interested in a vet backup QB instead a young QB learning on the job like Hutchinson. In this scenario of coming off a 10-6 season with what looked like a pretty good team, no rookie was going to beat out both a developing young player that Parcells liked and a veteran insurance policy. So at the time, there wasn't any room for Henson to play for at least two years. I think it's possible that Parcells never anticipated playing Henson, but simply was doing his employer a favor and using his contacts to do some due diligence on a player who Jerry had been interested in for years and who might be the one to take over two or three years later when Parcells was gone.

 

[blindzebra]

Good questions, Zax...

I don't know if anyone can figure out Parcells' thinking on Henson. I never could reconcile JJT's detailing of Parcells' calling Lloyd Carr, talking to his friends in the Yankees organization, meeting with Henson personally, and so on with his seeming indifference toward him since. So here's a theory for you: Maybe Parcells never intended to have Henson run his team.

At the time, Parcells had a fairly successful season under his belt with Quincy and seemed to think that he could improve further with both more experience and a better team around him. He also was interested in a vet backup QB instead a young QB learning on the job like Hutchinson. In this scenario of coming off a 10-6 season with what looked like a pretty good team, no rookie was going to beat out both a developing young player that Parcells liked and a veteran insurance policy. So at the time, there wasn't any room for Henson to play for at least two years. I think it's possible that Parcells never anticipated playing Henson, but simply was doing his employer a favor and using his contacts to do some due diligence on a player who Jerry had been interested in for years and who might be the one to take over two or three years later when Parcells was gone.

Where is this indifference?

I guess if you don't say a QB has moxie you don't care one way or the other.

 

[Zaxor]

Good questions, Zax...

I don't know if anyone can figure out Parcells' thinking on Henson. I never could reconcile JJT's detailing of Parcells' calling Lloyd Carr, talking to his friends in the Yankees organization, meeting with Henson personally, and so on with his seeming indifference toward him since. So here's a theory for you: Maybe Parcells never intended to have Henson run his team.

At the time, Parcells had a fairly successful season under his belt with Quincy and seemed to think that he could improve further with both more experience and a better team around him. He also was interested in a vet backup QB instead a young QB learning on the job like Hutchinson. In this scenario of coming off a 10-6 season with what looked like a pretty good team, no rookie was going to beat out both a developing young player that Parcells liked and a veteran insurance policy. So at the time, there wasn't any room for Henson to play for at least two years. I think it's possible that Parcells never anticipated playing Henson, but simply was doing his employer a favor and using his contacts to do some due diligence on a player who Jerry had been interested in for years and who might be the one to take over two or three years later when Parcells was gone.

Good Point CL...I have never thought at it from that angle and its as good a theroy as any...that is what I love about this board...the clean exchange of ideas...its like having access to thousands of brains and eyes and ears

 

[Zaxor]

Where is this indifference?

I guess if you don't say a QB has moxie you don't care one way or the other.

BZ it seems to some and I am one that Bill goes out of his way to praise Romo and seems to undercut Henson...If you haven't seen it or are unable to see it ...it does not mean that it does not exisit

 

[Zaxor]

"I heard it suggested that if Henson can not handle the mental games from Bill that he will never make it in the NFL"

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I believe this has alot to do with this situation. If a QB trying to make it in the NFL can't take mind games from his headcoach how is he supposed to drive his team down 90+yards playing in philly with less than 2 minutes to go for the win(hypothetical situation)? Understand what I am trying to say here? If Henson (or any other QB wannabe) can't take the pressure from his coach I don't think he will be able to handle the pressure of leading an NFL team.

Or maybe he has him riding the pine because he was out of the game for about 4 years.

Or maybe he wants him to stop throwing the ball like he is still playing 3rd base(like Hutchinson use to throw like a pitcher).

Or maybe because he never wanted Henson there in the first place and it was Jerry's call to make the trade.

Or maybe Bill Parcells actually knows what he's doing!!!!

If you believe pressure needs to be applied why not do it with Romo?

If as Bill said he wants to Build up some confidence and not lose the player why undercut him at everystep..

Could be that Henson needs coaching up...fixing some things in throwing motion and what not, but it does not mean he isn't functional...

throwing out a KC defense that was no defense at all Henson squashed Romo in Preseason last year after a 3yr layoff...thats just crazy...and that tells me either that Romo and Henson both suck but Romo sucks more or that if Romo does not suck that Henson is that much better...

So I will assume it is the later and that Romo does not suck or Bill would have gotten rid of him...

So with progression through a offseason and more familiarity with Football it would seem a logical assumption that Henson is and always will be a better qb option...(again no slam at Romo)

now having said all that why does Bill go out of his way to say things like

hey don't forget about Romo
Bledsoe is my starter
Romo is abit ahead of Henson at this time (in knowing what is going on)
This Romo kid has some Moxie to him now
Romo tells me Coach I am seeing what you want me to see but I'm just having a problem getting it there which is a good thing because we know what we need to work on with him

sounds to me like he is trying to instill confidence in Romo and with patience

now what does he say about Henson

I don't want to lose him
he's working hard
he needs to work on some mechanical things not a major overhaul
he's thrown about 5000 passes

not exactly anything to build confidence with now is there

 

[blindzebra]

BZ it seems to some and I am one that Bill goes out of his way to praise Romo and seems to undercut Henson...If you haven't seen it or are unable to see it ...it does not mean that it does not exisit

Praise Romo how?

By saying he has moxie, saying don't count him out, please.

He has said similar things about Henson. Go look up his conference call before the GB game last year, he glowed about Henson.

He always said he's coming along, he's said he's farther along than we expected.

Henson played, I'd call that praise.

Keep in mind that had Carter not screwed up, Romo would have gotten cut and practice squaded, and Henson would have been the #3 QB last year. The original plan was to have him begining to get in the mix THIS YEAR.

The best Parcells can say about Romo and his chance to be back up is he's slightly ahead in understanding the offense. He has an extra year in it and with Henson having to catch up on EVERYTHING, Romo should be more than just slightly ahead in the offensive system. I take that as a positive to just how much ground Henson has made up.

If JJT's article is to be believed parcells was the driving force behind bringing Henson to Dallas, again I'd call that praise.

Parcells came in with two QBs with very weak mental toughness, both inexperienced and damaged from playing too soon. I think he's trying not to play him too soon and applying a few mind games to test his mental toughness in the mean time.

Remember what all his former players said if he's not being hard on you he does not care.

Also remember the Blades, Stewarts, and Carsons he gushed about.

 

[Doomsday101]

I think Henson will start showing why he was so highly regarded, last season his 1st in the NFL not much was expected he was trying to get re-acclimated with the game with a full off-season and one on one work with Lee I believe Henson will start to separate himself from Romo. This is not a knock on Romo but there is a reason why Henson was highly regarded and Romo was an undrafted FA

 

[Charles]

Talking about making a mountain out of a mole hill..........the story of Drew Henson professional career so far.

The guy wasn't ready to play at the level required of a QB on a Parcells team.

Parcells saw an opening to prove his point once Vinny went down, of course he coached Henson up during the short week leading up to the ThankGiving game and even mentioned tweeking the game plan to suit Henson's ability, Parcells hoped that Henson could turn into a Wolf, but I think he was smart enough to know Lovie Smith would smell the blood in the water.

The Bears blitzed on 2 out of 3 plays after the 1st drive . Henson couldn't even read the simplest of keys. Witten was running open on almost every play. Julius Jones had one of his best blitz pick-up games on the season, but Henson wasn't ready. If anyone looked at the sidelines right before the half Vinny was warming up with 7-10 minutes left in the 2qtr.

It's always perceived as knock on Henson when the facts about that game are brought up. Parcells stated he wasn't ready, some fans and mediots hoped for a miracle even before the season started. They pounded the chest after the Ravens blow out when ........I live in the DC area and I purposely listened to their post game show (Comcast regional) to gauge or get an idea of what they thought about Henson. Ed Reed like a true professional took the blame for the late TD drive and stated if they were going to be a SuperBowl team they should never Let up. Will Demps also stated that some guys were talking about the after game buffet while the Cowboys offense was huddling. Gary Baxter smirked during his portion of the interview and the Ravens Defensive back coach stated they definatley have somethings to talk about even though in was a very good game for 35 minutes.

Of course I was surprised at the awe and gushing over Henson's performance by local mediots and some fans.

The guy wasn't ready, Parcells tried to temper the enthusiam after the game but coupled with Vinny's injury.................

Anyway, I hope the guys up to speed to atleast challenge for the back-up gig because unless he becomes a Wolf over the off-season, Bledsoe will play until he drops.

 

[Doomsday101]

Talking about making a mountain out of a mole hill..........the story of Drew Henson professional career so far.

The guy wasn't ready to play at the level required of a QB on a Parcells team.

Parcells saw an opening to prove his point once Vinny went down, of course he coached Henson up during the short week leading up to the ThankGiving game and even mentioned tweeking the game plan to suit Henson's ability, Parcells hoped that Henson could turn into a Wolf, but I think he was smart enough to know Lovie Smith would smell the blood in the water.

The Bears blitzed on 2 out of 3 plays after the 1st drive . Henson couldn't even read the simplest of keys. Witten was running open on almost every play. Julius Jones had one of his best blitz pick-up games on the season, but Henson wasn't ready. If anyone looked at the sidelines right before the half Vinny was warming up with 7-10 minutes left in the 2qtr.

It's always perceived as knock on Henson when the facts about that game are brought up. Parcells stated he wasn't ready, some fans and mediots hoped for a miracle even before the season started. They pounded the chest after the Ravens blow out when ........I live in the DC area and I purposely listened to their post game show (Comcast regional) to gauge or get an idea of what they thought about Henson. Ed Reed like a true professional took the blame for the late TD drive and stated if they were going to be a SuperBowl team they should never Let up. Will Demps also stated that some guys were talking about the after game buffet while the Cowboys offense was huddling. Gary Baxter smirked during his portion of the interview and the Ravens Defensive back coach stated they definatley have somethings to talk about even though in was a very good game for 35 minutes.

Of course I was surprised at the awe and gushing over Henson's performance by local mediots and some fans.

The guy wasn't ready, Parcells tried to temper the enthusiam after the game but coupled with Vinny's injury.................

Anyway, I hope the guys up to speed to atleast challenge for the back-up gig because unless he becomes a Wolf over the off-season, Bledsoe will play until he drops.

I agree and supported Parcells on not throwing Henson out there, it was clear that Henson was not ready and that came as no suprise to me given his time away from the game. I do think Henson has the talent to play this game at a high level and given time I think he will show why so many were high on him.

 

[Charles]

I agree and supported Parcells on not throwing Henson out there, it was clear that Henson was not ready and that came as no suprise to me given his time away from the game. I do think Henson has the talent to play this game at a high level and given time I think he will show why so many were high on him.

I hope so too, because having a young franchise QB makes our chances of winning a 6th lombardi trophy much greater, but we also gotta realize that there arre different ways to go about winning a SuperBowl.

We went 10 seasons between Staubach and Troy. It's been 4 years since Troy retired. Franchise Qbs don't drop from trees, so until someone steps up and proves they have what it takes I want the most qualified guy under center......... not the most promising.......or guy with the best tools........or guy with best pedigree........

 

[Doomsday101]

I hope so too, because having a young franchise QB makes our chances of winning a 6th lombardi trophy much greater, but we also gotta realize that there arre different ways to go about winning a SuperBowl.

We went 10 seasons between Staubach and Troy. It's been 4 years since Troy retired. Franchise Qbs don't drop from trees, so until someone steps up and proves they have what it takes I want the most qualified guy under center......... not the most promising.......or guy with the best tools........or guy with best pedigree........

I agree. Henson has to take the job and chances are it will not be this season however I think if Henson can show major improvement Parcells will not hesitate to put Henson in as he was last season. Even though I do have high hopes for Henson I still expect him to prove himself. In fairness I will say if Romo shows he is the man for the job then I will support him just as well. I’ll always want what is best for the Cowboys over what my opinion of a player might be

 

[Waffle]

I hope so too, because having a young franchise QB makes our chances of winning a 6th lombardi trophy much greater, but we also gotta realize that there arre different ways to go about winning a SuperBowl.

We went 10 seasons between Staubach and Troy. It's been 4 years since Troy retired. Franchise Qbs don't drop from trees, so until someone steps up and proves they have what it takes I want the most qualified guy under center......... not the most promising.......or guy with the best tools........or guy with best pedigree........

Talk about hitting the nail on the head.

 

[Zaxor]

Talking about making a mountain out of a mole hill..........the story of Drew Henson professional career so far.

The guy wasn't ready to play at the level required of a QB on a Parcells team.

Parcells saw an opening to prove his point once Vinny went down, of course he coached Henson up during the short week leading up to the ThankGiving game and even mentioned tweeking the game plan to suit Henson's ability, Parcells hoped that Henson could turn into a Wolf, but I think he was smart enough to know Lovie Smith would smell the blood in the water.

The Bears blitzed on 2 out of 3 plays after the 1st drive . Henson couldn't even read the simplest of keys. Witten was running open on almost every play. Julius Jones had one of his best blitz pick-up games on the season, but Henson wasn't ready. If anyone looked at the sidelines right before the half Vinny was warming up with 7-10 minutes left in the 2qtr.

It's always perceived as knock on Henson when the facts about that game are brought up. Parcells stated he wasn't ready, some fans and mediots hoped for a miracle even before the season started. They pounded the chest after the Ravens blow out when ........I live in the DC area and I purposely listened to their post game show (Comcast regional) to gauge or get an idea of what they thought about Henson. Ed Reed like a true professional took the blame for the late TD drive and stated if they were going to be a SuperBowl team they should never Let up. Will Demps also stated that some guys were talking about the after game buffet while the Cowboys offense was huddling. Gary Baxter smirked during his portion of the interview and the Ravens Defensive back coach stated they definatley have somethings to talk about even though in was a very good game for 35 minutes.

Of course I was surprised at the awe and gushing over Henson's performance by local mediots and some fans.

The guy wasn't ready, Parcells tried to temper the enthusiam after the game but coupled with Vinny's injury.................

Anyway, I hope the guys up to speed to atleast challenge for the back-up gig because unless he becomes a Wolf over the off-season, Bledsoe will play until he drops.

What game were you watching...

2nd series 3rd play Henson gets 2 steps in his drop and gets creamed Aikman blames JJ for not picking up the blitz

3rd series 2nd play Henson 4 1/2 step drop because blitz steps up gets sacked

3rd series 3rd play ball gets batted

4th series 1st play nice pass to key on 1st down
4th series 4th play pressure pass attempt to copper

5th series 2nd play Deep for Morgan broken-up
5th series 3rd play screen def. blitz o-line play terrible Aikman says lack of deep threat really hurting the Cowboys

7:50 left 2nd quarter Testy still standing without helmet not warming up

6th series 4th play rollout rightside pass broken up
6th series 5th play INT bad QB play

5:57 left in the 2nd Qtr Testy still without helmet nor warming up just smirking

7th series 1st play deep pass attempt to morgan well covered again
7th series 2nd play nice pass to Copper

2:00 minutes left Testy still not warming up

8th series 3rd play screen dropped by JJ

---end of half---

Charles you watched the wrong game try watching the Cowboys vs. Chicago thanksgiving 2004

Charles against Baltimore do I need to break down the playes there for you also where Henson went 6 for 6 and a TD...anyone can claim after the fact they weren't trying but I know Ed Reed was and it was against Ed Reed that the TD was scored on..

Henson definetly needs some exp. and training but it sure was not the total disaster you make it out to be...

a bit of forthrightness in commentary would be appreciated

 

[Zaxor]

I hope so too, because having a young franchise QB makes our chances of winning a 6th lombardi trophy much greater, but we also gotta realize that there arre different ways to go about winning a SuperBowl.

We went 10 seasons between Staubach and Troy. It's been 4 years since Troy retired. Franchise Qbs don't drop from trees, so until someone steps up and proves they have what it takes I want the most qualified guy under center......... not the most promising.......or guy with the best tools........or guy with best pedigree........

How does one get these qualifications you are looking for?

 

[Doomsday101]

How does one get these qualifications you are looking for?

1st you show it in practice and 2nd you make the most of the oppertunity when it comes, his showing at the end of the Ravens gave allowed him the oppertunity in the Thansgiving Day Game. I was the Thanksgiving Day game and it was clear to me that Henson was not ready and Parcells did make the right call on Henson. Having said that I do think Henson will get his chance and I do expect improvment in his game. I think the kid has talent just needs the time to get acclimated back to the game of football.

 

[Chocolate Lab]

Where is this indifference?

I guess if you don't say a QB has moxie you don't care one way or the other.

It's not that I think Parcells doesn't like Henson, I think it's that he hopes Henson doesn't have to play for him. Just as you said on down the thread, with Quincy and Vinny last year as a solid 1 and 2, and Henson supposed to carry a clipboard his entire rookie year, and Parcells knowing that he's only going to be here for a few years... When was Henson supposed to fit in as a starter?

And now with Parcells getting Bledsoe, Henson has even less chance of playing, IMO... I don't think Parcells will take Bledsoe off the field unless he has to ride off it in an ambulance.

It's just a theory... I'd say it's just as likely that Parcells likes Henson so much that he is determined not to ruin him by putting him in before he's completely prepared. But I do believe that even if that's true, he doesn't want a young QB like Henson playing for him.

 

[blindzebra]

It's not that I think Parcells doesn't like Henson, I think it's that he hopes Henson doesn't have to play for him. Just as you said on down the thread, with Quincy and Vinny last year as a solid 1 and 2, and Henson supposed to carry a clipboard his entire rookie year, and Parcells knowing that he's only going to be here for a few years... When was Henson supposed to fit in as a starter?

And now with Parcells getting Bledsoe, Henson has even less chance of playing, IMO... I don't think Parcells will take Bledsoe off the field unless he has to ride off it in an ambulance.

It's just a theory... I'd say it's just as likely that Parcells likes Henson so much that he is determined not to ruin him by putting him in before he's completely prepared. But I do believe that even if that's true, he doesn't want a young QB like Henson playing for him.

Before and several times after we played Pittsburgh last year, Parcells talked about inexperienced QBs and what you needed to do to win with one.

He liked the Steelers' model.

What have we done?

We added two RBs of different styles to add to Jones, ala Pittsburgh.

We shored up the OL, ala Pittsburgh.

We already had pretty solid receivers in place, ala Pittsburgh.

We added Ferguson, Henry, Glenn, Reese, Ware, Spears, Burnett, Canty, Beriault, and Ratliff on defense, ala Pittsburgh.

The pieces are now in place, we just need to see if they work.

 

[Charles]

What game were you watching...

The Game that came without Henson rose colored 3D vision

2nd series 3rd play Henson gets 2 steps in his drop and gets creamed Aikman blames JJ for not picking up the blitz

Dallas Cowboys at 7:37
1-10-DAL 21 (7:37) 21-J.Jones right end to DAL 24 for 3 yards (92-H.Hillenmeyer).

2-7-DAL 24 (7:01) 21-J.Jones up the middle to DAL 24 for no gain (23-J.Azumah; 92-H.Hillenmeyer).

3-7-DAL 24 (6:22) 7-D.Henson pass incomplete to 21-J.Jones. Heavy pressure Briggs up the middle.

Briggs plays left Outside LB, Julius was supposed to chip on that play and release for a pass, not pick up a blitz ( i don't really know just guessing). If Julius was supposed to pick up a blitz, Henson wouldn't attempt a pass in his direction ( if he did then he was really flustered). Julius may have done poor job of chipping but don't discount Henson inexperience in learning how to excute a pass under pressure. Julius went on to have a great game once a veteran QB was back in the game.

4-7-DAL 24 (6:12) 1-M.McBriar punts 41 yards to CHI 35, Center-85-J.Robinson. 21-R.McQuarters to 50 for 15 yards (18-T.Copper). Return middle.

3rd series 2nd play Henson 4 1/2 step drop because blitz steps up gets sacked

3rd series 3rd play ball gets batted

Dallas Cowboys at 5:59

1-10-CHI 50 (5:59) 21-J.Jones left tackle to CHI 47 for 3 yards (55-L.Briggs).

2-7-CHI 47 (5:25) 7-D.Henson sacked at DAL 48 for -5 yards (93-A.Ogunleye).

I did mention that Lovie Smith sent the blitz because he had an opposing inexperienced QB who was uncomfortable to audible and was missing WR/TE and RBs out of the back field. He did step up in the pocket and sometimes you gotta get out of dodge.

He didn't even show the instincts to run when all else failed, Troy did, Staubach did, Favre does.

Henson was a deer caught in head lights. Common for inexperienced QBs, but not going to fly on a Parcells team, especially a team with play-off aspirations.

3-12-DAL 48 (4:49) 7-D.Henson pass incomplete to 82-J.Witten (70-A.Boone). Boone tipped the ball at the line of scrimmage. Dallas RG Gurode has a left sprained knee and may return.

Henson has been working on his mechanics/delivery, further proving the point he wasn't ready to start on a Bill Parcells team with play-off intentions.

4-12-DAL 48 (4:44) 1-M.McBriar punts 52 yards to end zone, Center-85-J.Robinson, Touchback.

4th series 1st play nice pass to key on 1st down

4th series 4th play pressure pass attempt to copper

Dallas Cowboys at 0:45

1-10-DAL 44 45) 7-D.Henson pass to 19-K.Johnson to CHI 45 for 11 yards (31-N.Vasher). Slant from left end.

Nathan Vasher was beat the minute he realized he was in Man coverage with Keyshawn. Gotta give Henson credit for excuting the pass

1-10-CHI 45 10) 21-J.Jones up the middle to CHI 40 for 5 yards (32-To.Johnson).

2-5-CHI 40 (15:00) 21-J.Jones left end to CHI 29 for 11 yards (43-M.Green). R5
1-10-CHI 29 (14:19) 21-J.Jones right end to CHI 32 for -3 yards (91-T.Harris).
2-13-CHI 32 (13:31) 7-D.Henson pass incomplete to 18-T.Copper. Pass thrown left sideline at the 30; Todd Johnson closest defender.

Once again Henson felt the pressure........incomplete pass, typical of QBs that aren't ready to start

3-13-CHI 32 (13:24) 21-J.Jones up the middle to CHI 34 for -2 yards (55-L.Briggs).

4-15-CHI 34 (13:03) 3-B.Cundiff 52 yard field goal is No Good, Wide Right, Center-85-J.Robinson, Holder-7-D.Henson.

5th series 2nd play Deep for Morgan broken-up

5th series 3rd play screen def. blitz o-line play terrible Aikman says lack of deep threat really hurting the Cowboys

But interestingly enough once Vinny got in the game he was able to hit the intermediate passes to Witten that loosened up the defense, even in the face of pressure. The lack of deep threat didn't seal Henson fate in the 1st half

7:50 left 2nd quarter Testy still standing without helmet not warming up


6th series 4th play rollout rightside pass broken up
6th series 5th play INT bad QB play

5:57 left in the 2nd Qtr Testy still without helmet nor warming up just smirking

7th series 1st play deep pass attempt to morgan well covered again
7th series 2nd play nice pass to Copper

2:00 minutes left Testy still not warming up

8th series 3rd play screen dropped by JJ

---end of half---

Charles you watched the wrong game try watching the Cowboys vs. Chicago thanksgiving 2004

We can go on forever.

I watched the right game. I am not sugar coating Henson's performance. It was horrible. Vinny doesn't need his helmet on to warm up. He was tossing the ball and keeping his arm loose. My brother, cousin and his wife were at the game. They saw the coaching staff shrugging their heads. They saw Mo Carthon mouth "this ** doesn't know what going on", they saw Keyshawn starting to get antsy because he saw an easy game slip away.

I can argue Parcells could have lost the team on that evening if he stuck with Henson. It was a debacle.

Charles against Baltimore do I need to break down the playes there for you also where Henson went 6 for 6 and a TD...anyone can claim after the fact they weren't trying but I know Ed Reed was and it was against Ed Reed that the TD was scored on..

So what happened on Thankgiving. Are you insinuating that Henson just lost IT overnight.

I doubt it. Logic dictates that the Bears had time to prepare for an iexperienced rusty QB who had only looked great in underwear olympics or against defenses that were discussinf after game buffets. I saw the Ravens post game show. No one spoke of Henson's potential or his abilities.

Will Demps (I am paraphasing) "We need to learn how to play until the last whistle, if we are to become a SuperBowl contender even if the game is out of hand"

Henson definetly needs some exp. and training but it sure was not the total disaster you make it out to be...

a bit of forthrightness in commentary would be appreciated

I am forthrightous bro. Henson performance was a debacle..........

This is what Parcells had to say after the game:

http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/recap/NFL_20041125_CHI@DAL

"I know everyone has been clamoring for this. I don't care," Parcells said. "I've got other peoples' interests to consider. I really don't care. I'm going to do what I think is best."

Henson's game agains the Bears ranks up there with Leafs V Eagles, Quincy V Buccaneers, Stoerner V Giants etc etc You chose to sugar coat Henson's performance for some unknown phenomenon. He stunk up the Joint, Inthe words of Quincy Carter......... "many greats before have done the same"