News: Herd: Jimmy Johnson reacts to Cowboys' Week 1 loss

[CowboyRoy]

Jimmy nailed it though... Dak can't process the field like $40mil QBs do.

Nice imagination though.

 

[jterrell]

 

[erod]

Not sure I totally agree with Jimmy. QBs who don't see the field well have turnovers galore. Dak isn't in that category at all. Opposite in fact.

Dak doesn't turn it over because he won't throw it. He just takes the sack or dumps it to the back. A lot.

 

[CowboyRoy]

Jimmy nailed it! Dak needs everything around him perfect. It has to be a one or two read offense. Dak cannot just drop back and survey the field.

Only he never said that.

 

[jterrell]

 

[DandyDon52]

So, Dak needs a perfect situation to flourish.

and 45 million a year !

 

[erod]

Happens when you hold the ball forever.

The Rams could easily finish past in the west, and their defense is average at best.

 

[America's Cowboy]

Hey, Jimmy, how did your #1 overall picked QB Troy Aikman look after the Great Wall of Dallas fell apart once a salary cap was put in motion during the mid 90s and key Olinemen left to other teams for more money?

ANSWER: AIKMAN SUCKED!!!

Aikman needed a precise Offense as well! If you're criticizing Dak, you are pretty much criticizing Troy as well.

PS: Jimmy praises Kosar as a QB type who could improve the play of lesser talent around him. Well, what did Bernie Kosar ever win? How many Super Bowls did he reach or win? Pfft!

 

[erod]

Zeke seemed to be running just fine.

 

[erod]

I would not say it has to be perfect, it just has to be more structured.

That was Jimmy's point.

Structured is a kind word for remedial.

 

[Brax]

Maybe if Jimmy says it people will listen.


You get called a lot of things on this forum for pointing out what Dak is as a player and how he isn’t worth the deal he wants.

Dak is a good solid QB but paying him that kind of money will destroy our Super Bowl chances and this game is about winning the Super Bowl.

If Andy Dalton was the QB of this team you aren’t seeing a massive drop off at the position.

Just wait, the homers will be "what does Jimmy know".

 

[Section446]

Another guy who realizes that Dak just isn't a franchise QB.

 

[Tommy]

ROFL... it would be nice if you guys had any clue what you were talking about.

Dak has issues with short throws where he has to take something off and get it out with half motion.
His accuracy on those short throws is noticeably bad.
He has no accuracy issues on deeper throws AT ALL.
He has no issues reading the field.
He's simply been trained in this offense to take what the defense gives and protect the ball.

Really?

Tony Romo played in this same offense and he didnt play anything like Dak does. He didnt just take what the defense gave him he would attack the middle of the field.

Why the difference?

 

[Future]

Dak doesn't turn it over because he won't throw it. He just takes the sack or dumps it to the back. A lot.

He was 4th in sacked % last year lol.
https://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/2019/passing.htm
You are clueless and/or stuck in 2017, when that was true.

 

[rnr_honeybadger]

I agree with Jimmy - Dak's a good guy but he needs to realize that his talent is not a level that should command 35 - 40 million. His game is limited in being able to process and read defenses and there hasn't been improvement in that arena over the last 3 seasons which is very problematic as it really limits the offense and what it can do. Now if we want to talk about Dak at 25 million and allowing the Cowboys to shore up the OL and actually do the things to buy him time.

 

[CATCH17]

A guy who can't see the field and needs everything to be perfect gets BLOWN OUT on Sunday night.

Jimmy's wrong about what Dak is. The "can't survey the field" thing ended the second half of 2018.

I actually agree with this.

Dak can read a defense. He made that very clear early on in his career.

I thought he was good at it as early as his rookie year.

I think Dak is good at everything.

 

[Flamma]

Dak looks nothing like Testaverde. Dak is much more mobile, he doesn't throw side arm passes like Mahomes I get that but I just don't see the comparison.

Agree. I think he just meant how he surveys the field. Because Testaverde was an interception machine that would even make Brett Favre proud.

 

[OmerV]

Jimmy was not talking about physically, he was talking about the style of offense you need. He said Dak is like Testaverde in that you need a very specific offense. In that you take a 5 step drop, this is read 1, this is read 2, then throw it here. Very structured, what you cant do is play sandlot ball with Dak in that you just put him out there and tell him to just run around, throw of your back foot, just ad lib and make plays ala Aaron Rogers.

Its a good point by Jimmy, Dak is not a sandlot QB that just draws up plays in the dirt and ad libs on the fly.

Neither was Aikman. Aikman thrived in a very structured environment.

 

[jterrell]

Really?

Tony Romo played in this same offense and he didnt play anything like Dak does. He didnt just take what the defense gave him he would attack the middle of the field.

Why the difference?

Romo did not play in the same offense.
He played with Linehan for like 5 minutes and got hurt. In those 4 games he averaged 221 yards per game passing.

Romo's stats were built in 2 minute offense and his penchant for calling audibles.
Romo did everything but make the right plays late to win games(with plenty of holes around him).
Sunday night Dak threw for 266 yards and ran for 30 more.
Romo averaged 219 yards per game passing for his career with 4 yards rushing per game.
Make no mistake SNF was FAR better than an average Romo game.
296 yards offense with zero turnovers is quite solid.
50 more for the called back OPI pass and it would have been a plus night for anyone not named Mahomes.

 

[Diehardblues]

Hey, Jimmy, how did your #1 overall picked QB Troy Aikman look after the Great Wall of Dallas fell apart once a salary cap was put in motion during the mid 90s and key Olinemen left to other teams for more money?

ANSWER: AIKMAN SUCKED!!!

Aikman needed a precise Offense as well! If you're criticizing Dak, you are pretty much criticizing Troy as well.

PS: Jimmy praises Kosar as a QB type who could improve the play of lesser talent around him. Well, what did Bernie Kosar ever win? How many Super Bowls did he reach or win? Pfft!

But when Troy had the supporting cast he won 3 Super Bowls.