Here are the front-runners to land Romo in NFL's QB shuffle

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The Chiefs could swap Alex Smith for Romo. That would solve their need for a productive starting QB and Smith would solve the Cowboys need for a solid backup QB. I would do that deal.
 

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talk about fairy tales.......you better get back on your unicorn and try again

That makes a lot more sense than your plan that the Texans could give Osweiler away provided a team takes on half of his guaranteed $16M. Where does it say a team can just give a player away like that? You're the one talking fairy tales. If the reports are true that the Chiefs might be interested in Romo and might want to deal off Alex Smith, a swap could be the answer.

If they deal Smith they're going to need an upgrade at the position who can play now if they want to stay in contention next season. A draft pick for Smith does nothing for the Chiefs next season, they're going to need an experienced QB if they're looking to get to the SB while their window is still open.
 

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The Chiefs could swap Alex Smith for Romo. That would solve their need for a productive starting QB and Smith would solve the Cowboys need for a solid backup QB. I would do that deal.

So your theory is that the Cowboys would trade something of value for a backup QB that would make as much as Romo would. That's nuts.
 

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So your theory is that the Cowboys would trade something of value for a backup QB that would make as much as Romo would. That's nuts.

Smith won't make near as much as Romo if he comes here or anywhere else if he's dealt. If a SB contending team like the Chiefs give up on him, what other teams out there are going to want an unproductive bus driver as their starting QB? Smith has already been traded away once, he's not going to be the answer for anyone. He's most likely going to end up a backup anywhere he goes unless a team is stuck.
 

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Smith won't make near as much as Romo if he comes here or anywhere else if he's dealt. If a SB contending team like the Chiefs give up on him, what other teams out there are going to want an unproductive bus driver as their starting QB? Smith has already been traded away once, he's not going to be the answer for anyone. He's most likely going to end up a backup anywhere he goes unless a team is stuck.

His contract pays him 13.3 Million next year and 17 Million the year after that, with almost all of it guaranteed.
 

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His contract pays him 13.3 Million next year and 17 Million the year after that, with almost all of it guaranteed.

If that's the case KC is stuck with him. They'll likely draft a QB fairly high and have him play behind Smith for a year or two.
 

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His contract pays him 13.3 Million next year and 17 Million the year after that, with almost all of it guaranteed.

According to the article Smith has already played out the guaranteed portion of his contract so that would make him tradable. The big problem with Smith is the same problem it's been his entire career he's not productive. He'll give you 15 to 20 TD passes a year and around 3200 to 3500 yards which wouldn't put him in the top 10 passers 25 plus years ago. He doesn't turn the ball over much and is pretty steady but he's not a playmaker and once you reach the playoffs he becomes a big detriment facing the likes of a Tom Brady or any QB that puts up numbers. If you get down by two scores with Smith it's hard to come back with him. You can practically count his 300 yard games on one hand. Against the Steelers in the playoffs he competed less than 60% of his passes for only 172 yards and one TD in a game KC lost by 2 points. More production from the QB position would have easily won that game for KC.

In 2011 despite leading the 49ers to the NFC title game Smith was traded immediately after that season because SF realized they're not going to get over the hump with a QB that only completed 46% of his passes for 196 yards in a championship game. Once the playoffs arrive he can't compete with the big guns in the league that produce numbers and big plays. No team is going to get past Tom Brady and NE in the playoffs with a bus driver at QB. The only positive with Smith is he doesn't turn the ball over much and games don't get away from him which would make him an excellent backup QB.

If the Chiefs do look to trade him it will be the second time a SB caliber team that just got ousted from the playoffs decided he's not going to get them where they want to go. Good luck finding any team who's going to be excited about having an unproductive bus driver who only puts up 15-20 TD's a year as their starting QB. SF traded Smith to KC for a second round pick and I don't see anyone that will be willing to offer a second round pick for Smith this time around.
 

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The Chiefs could swap Alex Smith for Romo. That would solve their need for a productive starting QB and Smith would solve the Cowboys need for a solid backup QB. I would do that deal.

Lol no way you swap a starter for a back up
 

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Romo instantly puts Houston or Denver or KC in the post season and makes them legit SB contenders

We would be absolutely crazy to give that up for less than a first this year
 

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the chiefs are stuck they have a really good defense and some really good players on offense but they don't the qb or head coach who is capable of taking them to a superbowl and winning it they need a really good veteran qb but I don't think they will make the move to try to get tony
 

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Given the age, salary, and especially the injury risk.....I think you may be optimistic in the Cowboys favor

Not at all
If we hadn't found Dak would most of us and the team be expecting Romo to start the next 2 years as long as he can stay healthy?
Absolutely
And Romo is still easily a top 10 QB, with health being the ONLY caveat

I could live with
Rd 2 2017
Rd 2 2018 that becomes Rd 1 if they make playoffs this year

It would be a no brainier for any of those teams

How stupid will our FO look if they cut or trade Romo for a 5-6 Rd pick and one of these teams win the SB with him or even beat us in the SB?
 

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What about this idea for wheeling-dealing Jerry?

I had read that Jadeveon Clowney had been upset that he was drafted by Houston because he feels he is more of a 4-3 DE instead of a 3-4 DE. He is a very good 3-4 DE, but I think he would be a devastating 4-3 DE. What if we traded Tyrone Crawford, who was drafted when we ran a 3-4 and whom Bellicheat called us to congratulate us for stealing him just before NE would have drafted him for their 3-4 defense) and Romo to Houston for Clowney?



Assuming that Houston wants Romo as the final piece to their puzzle, the trade may benefit all players and both teams. I read that Houston publicly said that they were looking for a young quarterback in the draft, but that may be smoke. If Houston is concerned about taking on 2 veteran salaries for 1 rookie-contract salary, we can pick up part of Romo’s salary. We had been planning to pay Romo anyway. All players have at least 2 years remaining on their contracts. Maybe Romo might even re-write his contract to remain in his adopted home state with a contender and his relegation to Buffalo could be leverage. Maybe even handing them a draft pick would be appropriate if Houston is concerned about getting old.



Our first line, left to right would be Lawrence, McClain whom we should re-sign, Collins, and Clowney. Mayowa is in reserve as RDE and Irving is a super-reserve for LDE and 3-tech. The other reserves in our line provide an already full complement with Tapper and Ryan at DE and Thornton at DT and some others whom we already carry or could draft.
 

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Lol no way you swap a starter for a back up

Romo is no longer our starter and has huge injury concerns and is going to be 37 years old. Some reports say he's considering retirement. The trade market isn't going to be much for Romo due to his age and the amount of games he's missed the past 2 seasons with injuries. He's going to be a big gamble for any team that might be willing to trade for him which is why he's likely to be released. If KC has had enough of Alex Smith and he isn't due anymore guaranteed money and the Chiefs are looking for an upgrade at the position to try and reach the SB while their window is still open, Romo would be the best answer. He's a big upgrade over Smith and could be just what KC needs to get over the hump. If KC trades Smith they're going to be in big need of a QB and trading him for a draft pick in April isn't going to fill the hole they'll have at QB.

The only way any team that might be interested in Romo could guarantee obtaining him would be to trade for him. If we trade or release Romo we're going to be in the same position we were in heading into last offseason, needing a solid backup QB. Sanchez isn't the answer so the most logical thing to fill our need for a solid backup and to fill KC's need for a productive starter would be to make a swap. We're likely to end up with nothing for Romo because odds are he'll be released so the only trade out there that would fill our backup QB need and KC's need for an upgrade over Smith would be a swap.

You can't rule out any scenario at this point and I'm certainly not saying this is what's going to happen but anything is possible. If Smith is traded he's going to have to take a big pay cut because he's not going to be guaranteed a starting job with anyone else. He's unproductive and only slightly better than average. It will be the second time a SB contender traded him after being ousted from the playoffs because he's not the answer. Alex Smith for Romo would be a hell of a lot better than getting nothing for Romo which is very likely to happen. Once Romo is gone we're going to have a hole at backup QB so this is one scenario that would solve that problem.
 

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Not at all
If we hadn't found Dak would most of us and the team be expecting Romo to start the next 2 years as long as he can stay healthy?
Absolutely
And Romo is still easily a top 10 QB, with health being the ONLY caveat

I could live with
Rd 2 2017
Rd 2 2018 that becomes Rd 1 if they make playoffs this year

It would be a no brainier for any of those teams

How stupid will our FO look if they cut or trade Romo for a 5-6 Rd pick and one of these teams win the SB with him or even beat us in the SB?
Hey, you know I'm confident in Romo.
All Im saying is I don't think we'll get a first for him.

If you disagree, that's fine.
Obviously, I hope youre right....and well know soon enough.
 

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Romo is no longer our starter and has huge injury concerns and is going to be 37 years old. Some reports say he's considering retirement. The trade market isn't going to be much for Romo due to his age and the amount of games he's missed the past 2 seasons with injuries. He's going to be a big gamble for any team that might be willing to trade for him which is why he's likely to be released. If KC has had enough of Alex Smith and he isn't due anymore guaranteed money and the Chiefs are looking for an upgrade at the position to try and reach the SB while their window is still open, Romo would be the best answer. He's a big upgrade over Smith and could be just what KC needs to get over the hump. If KC trades Smith they're going to be in big need of a QB and trading him for a draft pick in April isn't going to fill the hole they'll have at QB.

The only way any team that might be interested in Romo could guarantee obtaining him would be to trade for him. If we trade or release Romo we're going to be in the same position we were in heading into last offseason, needing a solid backup QB. Sanchez isn't the answer so the most logical thing to fill our need for a solid backup and to fill KC's need for a productive starter would be to make a swap. We're likely to end up with nothing for Romo because odds are he'll be released so the only trade out there that would fill our backup QB need and KC's need for an upgrade over Smith would be a swap.

You can't rule out any scenario at this point and I'm certainly not saying this is what's going to happen but anything is possible. If Smith is traded he's going to have to take a big pay cut because he's not going to be guaranteed a starting job with anyone else. He's unproductive and only slightly better than average. It will be the second time a SB contender traded him after being ousted from the playoffs because he's not the answer. Alex Smith for Romo would be a hell of a lot better than getting nothing for Romo which is very likely to happen. Once Romo is gone we're going to have a hole at backup QB so this is one scenario that would solve that problem.

When you go to buy something do you pay the price based on its value to you or to the seller?

Romo would be the starter on all of those teams so they should expect to pay for a starter

If Romo were 30 the cost would be much higher
 

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When you go to buy something do you pay the price based on its value to you or to the seller?

Romo would be the starter on all of those teams so they should expect to pay for a starter

If Romo were 30 the cost would be much higher

Romo's value has been greatly reduced due to his age and injuries but some of you just can't seem to come to grips with that. He's missed games with injuries the past 4 seasons and the past 2 seasons he's only played 2 full games. He's had 3 different back injuries since 2013 and has to be given days off in practice. He's going to be a HUGE gamble for any team that picks him up and they're going to need a solid backup in the event he goes down. Every team has seen what's happened with Romo the past 2 seasons, he's not going to be a long-term answer for anyone. The only real value he has would be for a SB ready team that's in a WIN NOW mode, hoping he can get them where they want to go in a year or two before another significant injury sidelines him and likely retires him.

Most aging QBs who have injury concerns that have been in Romo's situation have been released because they carry a huge risk. Sure, if Romo was 30 and wasn't coming off so many injuries his value would be very high but that's not the case but some of you just don't get it. With the situation he's in, possibly contemplating retirement and knowing it's going to be difficult getting anything of real value for him in a trade due to his injury concerns, a swap for Alex Smith would be a lot better than nothing and nothing is what we may end up with.

Romo isn't going to be here next season, he's either going to be traded or released. If we could get something for him that would benefit us and him we need to do it. Ending up in KC would give Romo a chance to succeed and Alex Smith would give us a chance to stay afloat if Dak goes down. The type of middle of the field offense we run and having a great young back would work real well with the type of game Smith has.
 

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Romo's value has been greatly reduced due to his age and injuries but some of you just can't seem to come to grips with that. He's missed games with injuries the past 4 seasons and the past 2 seasons he's only played 2 full games. He's had 3 different back injuries since 2013 and has to be given days off in practice. He's going to be a HUGE gamble for any team that picks him up and they're going to need a solid backup in the event he goes down. Every team has seen what's happened with Romo the past 2 seasons, he's not going to be a long-term answer for anyone. The only real value he has would be for a SB ready team that's in a WIN NOW mode, hoping he can get them where they want to go in a year or two before another significant injury sidelines him and likely retires him.

Most aging QBs who have injury concerns that have been in Romo's situation have been released because they carry a huge risk. Sure, if Romo was 30 and wasn't coming off so many injuries his value would be very high but that's not the case but some of you just don't get it. With the situation he's in, possibly contemplating retirement and knowing it's going to be difficult getting anything of real value for him in a trade due to his injury concerns, a swap for Alex Smith would be a lot better than nothing and nothing is what we may end up with.

Romo isn't going to be here next season, he's either going to be traded or released. If we could get something for him that would benefit us and him we need to do it. Ending up in KC would give Romo a chance to succeed and Alex Smith would give us a chance to stay afloat if Dak goes down. The type of middle of the field offense we run and having a great young back would work real well with the type of game Smith has.

We can't take on Romos dead money in a trade and take on Smiths cap hit as well. No way. This is why using Romo's contract to restructure and push dead money into later years was a mistake.
 
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