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wow he just completely gave the game to denver.wow.
 

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I missed it, what exactly happened? I literally tuned in right after. Something about there being a fumble, but it wasnt a fumble, but the "booth didnt work" so they couldn't overturn it even though the refs knew it wasnt a fumble?
 

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Brandon;2257381 said:
I missed it, what exactly happened? I literally tuned in right after. Something about there being a fumble, but it wasnt a fumble, but the "booth didnt work" so they couldn't overturn it even though the refs knew it wasnt a fumble?

It was clearly a fumble. After the ball hit the ground, hocu-******* blew he whistle. Because he blew the whistle before the charger gained posession (charger picked up the ball right after), it was ruled down by contact.

dumbest thing I've seen in a while. Something needs to be done about these stupid *** replay rules. You should be able to review a fumble if it was clearly a fumble, no matter if the whistle blew or not.

Chargers were completely ****ed over.
 

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on a positive note......I have Royal as one of my fantasy players....and because of Hochule......I got 8 extra points.....I was robbed last week by the refs in the Dallas and Pittsburgh games and now this week, the refs robbed my opponent by allowing Denver to keep the ball.
 

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There ought to be an over/under in Vegas as to how many games Hoculi will unfairly influence this year. I'm guessing it would be four,in which case I would take the over. The guy's a self serving,bombastic idiot,and if I were Norv Turner,I'd ask the league to never let him officiate one of my games again. :bang2:
 

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Biggems;2257510 said:
on a positive note......I have Royal as one of my fantasy players....and because of Hochule......I got 8 extra points.....I was robbed last week by the refs in the Dallas and Pittsburgh games and now this week, the refs robbed my opponent by allowing Denver to keep the ball.
I have Royal AND Cutler. That sham of a call gave me an extra 20 points in my league and probably won it for me this week. :D

I'm gonna change my team name to "I Heart Hochuli" for the week. :p:
 

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oh hocules gave that game to Denver, I mean literally. No doubt instant replay showed it was a fumble and charger picked it up but not before the damn ref blew whistle thinking at first it was incomplete pass. Oh I cannot believe something so blatant can still happen with instant replay in effect.
 

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How hard is it to not blow your whistle? If you think it's incomplete and not a fumble, just wait the extra 2 seconds before whistling it dead. The NFL replay system sucks. Just let the refs get it right or wrong in real time. That's why they are there.
 

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What he call today was a disgrace to refs everywhere. the guy blew 2 calls. inclueding the last one that cost the chargers the game. i have no dog in this fight. but Ed Hoculi, has been killing the Cowboys for years. the Chargers got a taste of what we have been getting for years from this guy. he flatout stinks. and i dont care how long he's ref in the NFL.
 

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Yeah, the real issue is that Hochuli didn't actually see the play, but was busy signaling and blowing the whistle instead of letting a few seconds pass. On one replay you can see him in the background, where he couldn't really see the play that well, as the QB's body shielded the view of the hit. But boy he jumped right in and made a call! How many other times has he made a call he didn't see?

He quick whistled it, when he didn't have the definitive view and ended up giving the game away; possibly seriously affecting the playoff positioning. Now according to the rules, he couldn't fix it. Which means you have to be real careful about that quick whistle. He's a major chump this weekend.

What will be interesting is seeing if the NFL and the lapdog sportscasters try to sweep this under the rug, or man up and deal with a screw up openly.

Though afterwards, before the touchdown and two point conversion, SD could have made the whole thing moot by summoning up some decent defense for a play or two.
 

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The issue is NOT with the replay and how it works. The replay worked fine...It was all HUMAN error on Hochulis' part. Once the whistle blows, the play is FOREVER dead and no replay can change that. Why he blew the whistle in the middle of a CLEARLY questionable play is where all fingers should be pointed.

This is 100% human error and no fingers should be pointed at the replay. If anything, the replay showed how wrong Hochuli was.

Hochuli is 100% at fault. I've seen this guy make repeated errors. I can only imagine if he did something like that against Dallas in the Super Bowl.

Holy Crapoli.
 

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Sarge;2258226 said:
The issue is NOT with the replay and how it works. The replay worked fine...It was all HUMAN error on Hochulis' part. Once the whistle blows, the play is FOREVER dead and no replay can change that. Why he blew the whistle in the middle of a CLEARLY questionable play is where all fingers should be pointed.

This is 100% human error and no fingers should be pointed at the replay. If anything, the replay showed how wrong Hochuli was.

Hochuli is 100% at fault. I've seen this guy make repeated errors. I can only imagine if he did something like that against Dallas in the Super Bowl.

Holy Crapoli.

:hammer:

Inadvertent whistles occur often in football (mostly college games) and they are just an unfortunate human aspect to football. Most of the time they do NOT occur at game changing times. I respect Hochuli for admitting fault, though.
 

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This issue is as easily as fixable even a Caveman could figure this out. In situations like this the officials should have authority to review the play due to early whistles being blown.


P.S. This thread was in no way an attempt to demean or belittle Cavemen, if I have offended you.........F off and go complain to Geico.....LOL
 

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That was a classic blunder but mistakes happen. I still think him and his crew are among the best in the league.

Regarding Chargers being robbed, they two chances to secure the win. If you can stop another team from scoring with the same play on consecutive attempts you don't deserve it.
 

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gambit187;2258345 said:
This issue is as easily as fixable even a Caveman could figure this out. In situations like this the officials should have authority to review the play due to early whistles being blown.

I just don't see how that's feasible. The whistle signals to everybody to stop playing. What should the replay official have done in the case of the Santana Moss catch against the Giants in the opener for example?

The officials ruled him down by contact, blew the whistle when he was anything but. The outcome of the play had the whistle not blown would either have been a first down or likely even a TD. Without it though Moss was short.

How would you have the ref rule?
 

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hermitkid;2258375 said:
I just don't see how that's feasible. The whistle signals to everybody to stop playing. What should the replay official have done in the case of the Santana Moss catch against the Giants in the opener for example?

The officials ruled him down by contact, blew the whistle when he was anything but. The outcome of the play had the whistle not blown would either have been a first down or likely even a TD. Without it though Moss was short.

How would you have the ref rule?

Well to me both cases are different. In the Moss situation the play could have been reviewed and a 1st down awarded to the Skins, but to be honest I have seen the play and Tivo it.

Here is a case were change of posession comes into play. On any play like that, extra care should be given.
 

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I think it should have been chargers ball at the point of recovery.
 
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