Holding out hope for RW

[Maikeru-sama]

So now people think that Romo and Garrett decided to not throw Roy Williams the ball at some point during the game?

First, it was he was learning the Offense.

Then it was he was hurt last year

Then it was he and Romo just needed some time in TC

Then it was he is still in "Detroit Mode" and not use to winning

Now Romo and Garrett are punishing him for drops by not throwing him the ball

The excuses for this guy never ends.

Roy Williams himself has already stated that he only has himself to blame and what was key to his statement was that his Quarterback has lost "confidence" in him

It has nothing do with the OC and Quarterback not wanting to throw him the ball.

And I gurantee you, if you watch most games in the NFL, Quarterbacks miss open players every now and then because there is so much going on and everything is moving at such a high speed.

 

[bysbox1]

Strapping on my homer helmet, the one thing that gives me hope is this ... I agree that he has built a career based largely on physical talent. I'm not saying the guy doesn't work at all, but I clearly think he doesn't put in the kind of time to master every technical detail like you hear the great ones doing. I think Austin has lapped him about seven times in this regard.

But what gives me a glimmer of hope is that somewhere inside that "I'm the all-world Roy that tore up Odessa" is a prideful guy, money be damned. You saw some of that come out when he talked about his family members dogging him, and you saw that in his face as he stood helplessly on the sideline while the rest of the offense was sticking daggers in the Eagles.

Again, mind you that my homer hat is on right now, but I can only hope he internalizes that feeling and uses that to have an offseason of work like he's never had before.

(Disclaimer: The only reason I fail to call him lazy is because I'm not there, knowing what's going on. I don't know that he does less than the minimal that is required, but the results tell me he's not doing a whole heckuva lot more.)

I know I may get flamed for this, but here goes.

Austin had the priviledge of working with TO since he's been in the league. Now people can say what they want about TO's locker room distractions, but from the what I understand no one practices or works harder on the practice field than TO, and this was well documented. So Austin had a great field example or mentor.

The comment you made about Roy Williams not putting in the details was a comment I heard from my Detroit relatives. Roy's biggest knock in Detroit was that he relied on his physical talent too much and did not do the little work and details required to take him over the top. I thought he played pretty decent while he was in Detroit, but my Detroit contacts are quick to note that he was injured about 14 games over that span of time and while he was there he was the only receiver worth his salt . . .

 

[Disturbed]

..........Austin had the priviledge of working with TO since he's been in the league. Now people can say what they want about TO's locker room distractions, but from the what I understand no one practices or works harder on the practice field than TO, and this was well documented. So Austin had a great field example or mentor..............

Great, now RW can simply follow Austin....RW should be Austin's shadow.

Note: Still needs to be able to read and adjust to defenses....

 

[theogt]

So now people think that Romo and Garrett decided to not throw Roy Williams the ball at some point during the game?

First, it was he was learning the Offense.

Then it was he was hurt last year

Then it was he and Romo just needed some time in TC

Then it was he is still in "Detroit Mode" and not use to winning

Now Romo and Garrett are punishing him for drops by not throwing him the ball

The excuses for this guy never ends.

Roy Williams himself has already stated that he only has himself to blame and what was key to his statement was that his Quarterback has lost "confidence" in him

It has nothing do with the OC and Quarterback not wanting to throw him the ball.

And I gurantee you, if you watch most games in the NFL, Quarterbacks miss open players every now and then because there is so much going on and everything is moving at such a high speed.

I don't think you guys quite get it. This isn't an excuse for Roy. This isn't a conspiracy against Roy. He isn't getting thrown to for a reason. And that reason is obviously because they lack confidence in him. That's all on Roy. There's no excuse. It's all about Roy not doing what he's supposed to do.

 

[Disturbed]

I don't think you guys quite get it. This isn't an excuse for Roy. This isn't a conspiracy against Roy. He isn't getting thrown to for a reason. And that reason is obviously because they lack confidence in him. That's all on Roy. There's no excuse. It's all about Roy not doing what he's supposed to do.

The lack of confidence is warranted. 9m year for a wr who can't catch...that is just sad. I think I heard one of the announcers say, "Roy leads the league in dropped passes". Roy should sit on bench and let Crayton/Ogletree split duties.

#1 Catch the ball, #2 get open on routes, and #3 adjust to defenses to help QB/team...

 

[theogt]

The lack of confidence is warranted. 9m year for a wr who can't catch...that is just sad. I think I heard one of the announcers say, "Roy leads the league in dropped passes". Roy should sit on bench and let Crayton/Ogletree split duties.

#1 Catch the ball, #2 get open on routes, and #3 adjust to defenses to help QB/team...

That's not true. There are a lot of receivers with more drops, and many of those receivers are in the pro bowl.

 

[Maikeru-sama]

I don't think you guys quite get it. This isn't an excuse for Roy. This isn't a conspiracy against Roy. He isn't getting thrown to for a reason. And that reason is obviously because they lack confidence in him. That's all on Roy. There's no excuse. It's all about Roy not doing what he's supposed to do.

My bad.

I thought I read that someone said Romo and Garrett were purposely not throwing the ball to him.

I believe what is realistically taking place is that after so many miscues and drops, Tony Romo is tuning him out and not looking in his direction as often as he does the other options.

There is no doubt in my mind that if Tony Romo sees Roy Williams open, he will throw it to him.

 

[stilltheguru]

Exactly.

Try not to butcher the english language simply to put down a player.

Nah, you just over analyzed my comments and turned it into an English lesson. I'll pass on that corniness on an internet message board. Save it for the classroom guy

 

[TD-33]

I still believe Roy can turn it around. But; I do understand the frustration people have in him.
He has the skill and his team says he is a hard worker. Personally I think it's a mental thing, maybe the way he approached his opportunity but I don't know.
I do know if he can get it together it makes the Cowboys much more dangerous offensively so that is my hope.
It's funny but I always feel if Kitna were to come into the game for whatever reason (like when Romo was hit late last week) that he and Roy would play really well.

 

[jchocolate82]

all of it dude

you say any football expert would agree that hes not garbage ? which one ?


so what you want Romo to hand him the ball to make sure he catches it ?


IMO RWS sucks there is nothing you could even dream up to - like your above garbage that could change my mind

I knew Jerry had mad ea mistake when I heard the deal went down

Now you tell me something

is it the WR job to catch the ball ?

or to put forth an effort to do so ?

it sounds like you want this all to fall on Romo

RW has dropped 45 per cent of the balls thrown to him


thrown at 83 times caught 38 45 percent

Hahahaha dude if you want to discuss we can discuss cause I respect everyones gonna have their different views but dont come on here bashing my post saying its garbage cause you dont like it cause I didnt do that with you cause I respect you and most everyone on here as a cowboy fan.


Sir the above in your qoute that I went ahead an highlighted for you please explain and reference in this thread where Ive stated or insinuated that I want this to fall on Romo?? I'll save you the time its zero my whole thread and response threads have pretty much said that Roy is NOT garbage in the sense he lacks the talent to be a damn good reciever casue he does have that talent to do that. The problem is he is badly underachieving to his talent potential and besides you and the others that just plain HATE the guy most Cowboy fans are mad cause he's underachieving. Do I want this to fall on Romo??? ummm no, its obviously up to Roy to play to his potential and CATCH the balls when they come his way.

Now if you want to discuss respecfully we can discuss but lets not go off the reservation about stuff that was never said or insinuated in my post or threads.

 

[zrinkill]

Austin had the priviledge of working with TO since he's been in the league.

Actually it was Hurd who Owens took under his wing.

And we see where that has gotten him.