Holy cow! Pics of Pitbull vs. Porcupine

[calico]

I understand why some people say it is the owner and not the dog, but let me give you some background on where my hate comes from.

I lived in a house with a few buddies in college. One of them got a pitbull pup and took great care of it...nothing but love for it and never ever came close to any type of abuse outside of normal discipline for the dog when it was growing up.

The dog was friendly and safe...so we thought. He moved out a few years later and got his own place to share with his fiance. He decided to throw a nice house warming party and invited all his friends over.

While we were BBQing, he threw a ball for his dog to fetch and whatnot. After we all ate, we gathered around the TV to watch a movie, he took a seat on the ground next to his pitbull.

A few mins into the movie, my buddy starts to get up to use the head, he pats his dog on the head as he is walking away and the thing attacks him.

It bit the back of his head and took him to the ground. We were all in shock as he wrestled with the dog, which was now going for his throat. He was able to block his throat with his arm and the pitbull latched on.

Now, my friend is not a little guy. He is an Irish brawler who I have seen clear out some bars during some bar fights. He hit this dog with everything he had, breaking bones in its face to get no reaction from it.

At this point, everyone is still in shock just watching while he is screaming for us to call 911 and to kill the dog.

I ended up grabbing a butcher's knife and cutting the damn thing's throat.

It is still a mystery to us all as to why the dog suddenly snapped after years of being nothing but a great pet and showing no aggression at all.

My friend is still gratefull that it was him who was attacked that day and not the children of guests and his cousins who were there.

Anyway, don't get me started on rottweilers as well, I have been attacked twice by them for no damn reason.

 

[Hostile]

I understand why some people say it is the owner and not the dog, but let me give you some background on where my hate comes from.

I lived in a house with a few buddies in college. One of them got a pitbull pup and took great care of it...nothing but love for it and never ever came close to any type of abuse outside of normal discipline for the dog when it was growing up.

The dog was friendly and safe...so we thought. He moved out a few years later and got his own place to share with his fiance. He decided to throw a nice house warming party and invited all his friends over.

While we were BBQing, he threw a ball for his dog to fetch and whatnot. After we all ate, we gathered around the TV to watch a movie, he took a seat on the ground next to his pitbull.

A few mins into the movie, my buddy starts to get up to use the head, he pats his dog on the head as he is walking away and the thing attacks him.

It bit the back of his head and took him to the ground. We were all in shock as he wrestled with the dog, which was now going for his throat. He was able to block his throat with his arm and the pitbull latched on.

Now, my friend is not a little guy. He is an Irish brawler who I have seen clear out some bars during some bar fights. He hit this dog with everything he had, breaking bones in its face to get no reaction from it.

At this point, everyone is still in shock just watching while he is screaming for us to call 911 and to kill the dog.

I ended up grabbing a butcher's knife and cutting the damn thing's throat.

It is still a mystery to us all as to why the dog suddenly snapped after years of being nothing but a great pet and showing no aggression at all.

My friend is still gratefull that it was him who was attacked that day and not the children of guests and his cousins who were there.

Anyway, don't get me started on rottweilers as well, I have been attacked twice by them for no damn reason.

That's wild.

 

[joseephuss]

I have seen a few dogs go up againt porcupines and come out looking similar to the pit bull in that picture. Different breeds and sizes.

I have personally met and read newspaper articles about more bad owners than bad dogs. Any dog can be led astray by a bad owner. Any dog can bite. Any dog can be provoked or lose it. They are animals.

The problems with Pits and Rots is that they are just so big and strong. It doesn't make them worse animals, but if they lose it you have less of a chance to protect yourself against them. There are plenty of other strong breeds even if they aren't quite as strong as a Pit. Even small dogs can inflict damage if a child is involved. A small pack of smaller breeds can be worse than a single Pit or Rot. If you are going to outlaw one breed, then you have to essentially outlaw all breeds.

It is mostly on the owners. There are the truly bad owners who abuse their dogs and/or train them to be fighters and aggressive. There are also negligent owners out there. They don't purposely train their dogs to be aggressive, but maybe they don't have a secure fence or what not. Or they leave their child unattended with a dog.

Unprovoked attacks can be limited if dogs and owners do some training.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

I own a 3 year old American Staffordshire Terrior or, "Pittbull", named Bugsy. I have owned dogs my whole life and I have to say that this is the best dog I've ever had. I also have an American Bull Dog and of the two, Bugsy is by far the better dog. Both are part of the family and treated as such. I have 4 children, 2 boys and 2 girls. Bugsy has never been agressive towards any of the children ever, He is protective only when someone not supposed to be in the house is there.


A bit of history on the American Pittbull. It may surprise some to learn that of 122 seperatly tested breeds of dogs, tested by the National Canine Tempermant Testing Association, the American Pittbull graded out as 4th best overall in this test, scoring a 95% of a total 100 %. Pittbulls are often known for acts of valor and have proven to be "Hero Dogs" on several occasions. The first American War Dog was a Pittbull named Stubby. He earned several medals for saving the lives of his Platoon in WWI. Weela, the Ken-L-Ration dog (1993), Saved 30 people, 29 dogs and 13 horses during the floods in California. There are hundreds of stories of Pitts protecting or saving the lives of humans down through this breeds history. Peety from the Little Rascals was a Pittbull. In fact, in the 20s, during the depession years, these dogs were often known as Nanny Dogs. They were called this because they were often left to tend the young children while parents left to try and find work. At the time, this breed of dog was one of the most commen types in America. Because they were so intelligent, so loyal, so carring and so agile, they served as great care takers in those days.

PittBulls as dangerous dogs is a miss conception IMO. Can they be? Sure they can but any dog can be dangerous if made to be so.

As I said, I've never had a better dog and I trust that my dog will be there to protect my family in any situation if, God forbid, the need ever arised.

 

[Yeagermeister]

I own a 3 year old American Staffordshire Terrior or, "Pittbull", named Bugsy. I have owned dogs my whole life and I have to say that this is the best dog I've ever had. I also have an American Bull Dog and of the two, Bugsy is by far the better dog. Both are part of the family and treated as such. I have 4 children, 2 boys and 2 girls. Bugsy has never been agressive towards any of the children ever, He is protective only when someone not supposed to be in the house is there.


A bit of history on the American Pittbull. It may surprise some to learn that of 122 seperatly tested breeds of dogs, tested by the National Canine Tempermant Testing Association, the American Pittbull graded out as 4th best overall in this test, scoring a 95% of a total 100 %. Pittbulls are often known for acts of valor and have proven to be "Hero Dogs" on several occasions. The first American War Dog was a Pittbull named Stubby. He earned several medals for saving the lives of his Platoon in WWI. Weela, the Ken-L-Ration dog (1993), Saved 30 people, 29 dogs and 13 horses during the floods in California. There are hundreds of stories of Pitts protecting or saving the lives of humans down through this breeds history. Peety from the Little Rascals was a Pittbull. In fact, in the 20s, during the depession years, these dogs were often known as Nanny Dogs. They were called this because they were often left to tend the young children while parents left to try and find work. At the time, this breed of dog was one of the most commen types in America. Because they were so intelligent, so loyal, so carring and so agile, they served as great care takers in those days.

PittBulls as dangerous dogs is a miss conception IMO. Can they be? Sure they can but any dog can be dangerous if made to be so.

As I said, I've never had a better dog and I trust that my dog will be there to protect my family in any situation if, God forbid, the need ever arised.

IMO the problem comes from the people who train them to fight and then inbreed them. Unless you know the parents have never been used for fighting you don't know if they have that aggressive nature.

The father of my dog was abused and left for dead after someone tried to cut his throat. After my friend took him in and cared for him he was the biggest, and I do mean BIG 120lbs, baby you have ever seen.

A pits biggest fault if you want to call it that is they are very loyal to their masters. As big as Angus is I don't want to see what he'd do if someone tried to harm me or my wife.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

IMO the problem comes from the people who train them to fight and then inbreed them. Unless you know the parents have never been used for fighting you don't know if they have that aggressive nature.

The father of my dog was abused and left for dead after someone tried to cut his throat. After my friend took him in and cared for him he was the biggest, and I do mean BIG 120lbs, baby you have ever seen.

A pits biggest fault if you want to call it that is they are very loyal to their masters. As big as Angus is I don't want to see what he'd do if someone tried to harm me or my wife.

I agree Yeags. I too have a large Bully and if he felt as if anybody were threatening the family, it would be difficult to prevent him from getting at said individual. I will not dispute this. The person would have to be inside the house and the person would have to exihibit threatening posture but I don't know how you fault an animal for that.

I will tell you Yeags, I love that dog. I trust him with my family completely.

 

[Concord]

Humans cause far more destruction to property and life to animals and humans and yet we let them live.

Lets get rid of the bad humans first.

 

[Yeagermeister]

I agree Yeags. I too have a large Bully and if he felt as if anybody were threatening the family, it would be difficult to prevent him from getting at said individual. I will not dispute this. The person would have to be inside the house and the person would have to exihibit threatening posture but I don't know how you fault an animal for that.

I will tell you Yeags, I love that dog. I trust him with my family completely.

Angus can get a little agro at times but a stern shut up usually fixes it.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

Angus can get a little agro at times but a stern shut up usually fixes it.

Training is important IMO. One thing about these dogs is that they are HIGHLY INTELLIGENT. They are also determined. My dogs are both trained to respond to command using hand signals or verbal commands. It would have to be a situation in which nobody wanted to give a command to stop the dog for harm to be done.

 

[the kid 05]

Training is important IMO. One thing about these dogs is that they are HIGHLY INTELLIGENT. They are also determined. My dogs are both trained to respond to command using hand signals or verbal commands. It would have to be a situation in which nobody wanted to give a command to stop the dog for harm to be done.

how long did it take for your dog to train with the hand motions? that would be so cool...like swat

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

how long did it take for your dog to train with the hand motions? that would be so cool...like swat

About 6 months, completely.

 

[Dallas]

Interesting huh? No Yorkie or Cockerspaniel incidents just yet. We are still on alert tho if any do occur. We'll let you know.

Pit Bulls Maul Man, Who Loses His Left Hand
Thursday, February 15, 2007
Associated Press

MEMPHIS, Tenn. — Two pit bull dogs ripped off a man's left hand and badly mauled his right arm before other people were able to beat the dogs away.

"I couldn't believe I wasn't dead," James Chapple said from his hospital bed. "I'm going to church every day when I get out of here and talk to the man upstairs."

Chapple, 59, had just gotten off a bus and was walking home on Feb. 9 when the dogs ran out from an auto repair business, knocked him down and started biting.

In a bedside interview Wednesday, he said he yelled for help and one pedestrian grabbed a stick to hit the dogs but was unable to get them to stop.

"I was kicking and screaming at them to let me go, but they kept dragging me — they had my hand and wouldn't let go," Chapple said.

He passed out and didn't wake up until he was in an ambulance. Doctors had to amputate his lower left arm, but they saved his right arm. Chapple also suffered bites on his legs and one ear.

Memphis Animal Services captured the dogs and will euthanize them, authorities said.

Charles Lawson, who co-owns the business, said the dogs were guarding the shop and belong to his partner. He said he didn't know how the dogs got out, but declined to comment further.

 

[joseephuss]

Interesting huh? No Yorkie or Cockerspaniel incidents just yet. We are still on alert tho if any do occur. We'll let you know.

Pit Bulls Maul Man, Who Loses His Left Hand
Thursday, February 15, 2007
Associated Press

MEMPHIS, Tenn. — Two pit bull dogs ripped off a man's left hand and badly mauled his right arm before other people were able to beat the dogs away.

"I couldn't believe I wasn't dead," James Chapple said from his hospital bed. "I'm going to church every day when I get out of here and talk to the man upstairs."

Chapple, 59, had just gotten off a bus and was walking home on Feb. 9 when the dogs ran out from an auto repair business, knocked him down and started biting.

In a bedside interview Wednesday, he said he yelled for help and one pedestrian grabbed a stick to hit the dogs but was unable to get them to stop.

"I was kicking and screaming at them to let me go, but they kept dragging me — they had my hand and wouldn't let go," Chapple said.

He passed out and didn't wake up until he was in an ambulance. Doctors had to amputate his lower left arm, but they saved his right arm. Chapple also suffered bites on his legs and one ear.

Memphis Animal Services captured the dogs and will euthanize them, authorities said.

Charles Lawson, who co-owns the business, said the dogs were guarding the shop and belong to his partner. He said he didn't know how the dogs got out, but declined to comment further.

I have personally heard of several cockerspaniel incidents. None resulted in the loss of limbs, but they were still biting incidents. They just aren't as strong as a Pit or many other breeds.

 

[Yeagermeister]

Interesting huh? No Yorkie or Cockerspaniel incidents just yet. We are still on alert tho if any do occur. We'll let you know.

Pit Bulls Maul Man, Who Loses His Left Hand
Thursday, February 15, 2007
Associated Press

MEMPHIS, Tenn. — Two pit bull dogs ripped off a man's left hand and badly mauled his right arm before other people were able to beat the dogs away.

"I couldn't believe I wasn't dead," James Chapple said from his hospital bed. "I'm going to church every day when I get out of here and talk to the man upstairs."

Chapple, 59, had just gotten off a bus and was walking home on Feb. 9 when the dogs ran out from an auto repair business, knocked him down and started biting.

In a bedside interview Wednesday, he said he yelled for help and one pedestrian grabbed a stick to hit the dogs but was unable to get them to stop.

"I was kicking and screaming at them to let me go, but they kept dragging me — they had my hand and wouldn't let go," Chapple said.

He passed out and didn't wake up until he was in an ambulance. Doctors had to amputate his lower left arm, but they saved his right arm. Chapple also suffered bites on his legs and one ear.

Memphis Animal Services captured the dogs and will euthanize them, authorities said.

Charles Lawson, who co-owns the business, said the dogs were guarding the shop and belong to his partner. He said he didn't know how the dogs got out, but declined to comment further.

They were bred as guard dogs which tells me the owners didn't give a crap about them. If you treat them wrong they will be aggressive.

 

[trickblue]

I have personally heard of several cockerspaniel incidents. None resulted in the loss of limbs, but they were still biting incidents. They just aren't as strong as a Pit or many other breeds.

Actually Cocker spaniels can be very dangerous to young children when they get old. They become more aggressive and much less tolerant of children tugging on their nub tail/ears and the like.

I am more in the camp with Dallas. I've personally witnessed a couple pitbull incidents and I know a couple of people who were disfigured, one seriously by a "loving, friendly" pit...

People certainly have the right to own them, but I am wary of them nonetheless.

 

[smarta5150]

Oops, wrong forum lol.

 

[the kid 05]

Actually Cocker spaniels can be very dangerous to young children when they get old. They become more aggressive and much less tolerant of children tugging on their nub tail/ears and the like.

I am more in the camp with Dallas. I've personally witnessed a couple pitbull incidents and I know a couple of people who were disfigured, one seriously by a "loving, friendly" pit...

People certainly have the right to own them, but I am wary of them nonetheless.

if i went to a camp ground/site and brought my dog (a massive jack russle terriar standing at a massive 10 inches), i would have it chained up, your asking for trouble if you let your dog roam.

 

[cowboys19]

I can't see the pics. Did they take em down?

 

[joseephuss]

Austin settles lawsuit over dog attack
Georgetown woman's husband was planning to train animal for police K-9 unit.
AMERICAN-STATESMAN STAFF
Friday, February 16, 2007

A Georgetown woman attacked by a dog selected to train for the Austin Police Department K-9 unit will receive a $170,000 legal settlement for her injuries, which included severe damage to her hand and arm.

Sherri Forbes was bitten by a 70-pound Belgian Malinois that was in the yard with her husband, Austin police officer Richard Forbes, a handler who had picked up the dog that day. The dog hadn't begun the five-month training for the K-9 unit.

Forbes was working on the dog's kennel when his wife came outside. The dog bit her arm and hand, causing injuries that required surgery and left some permanent damage, said Anne Morgan, the city's chief of litigation. The dog was returned to the company that had sold the animal to the city.

Sherri Forbes sued Austin in 2006 claiming her husband had been negligent because he failed to control and kennel the dog. Neither she nor her lawyer returned calls for comment.

The City Council approved the settlement Thursday.

Dogs in the K-9 unit stay with the handler's family when off-duty because the officer and dog develop a bond during daily training, according to the department Web site. In response to the incident, the unit's supervisor and lead trainer now meet with the handler's family to discuss the details of keeping a police dog, police spokesman Kevin Buchman said.

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