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kartr;1137805 said:
You've confirmed everything I suspected except for one thing. Henson and Romo weren't ready to play at all in 2004, so how could their performances been better than his, one week into training camp. Henson was just re-learning football. Vinny's numbers weren't any better than Carter's and going up against weaker defenses in 2004 than in 2003 proved that. Carter had a 98 qb rating with the Jets in 2004 despite not knowing the offense. Sounds like Bill and Jerry dropped the ball on this one. As for Q's reliability. He has never been suspended by the league and has been available to play every game of every season he played. So the arguments against him are all bogus as usual and the fact that so many hate him in spite of the fact that he has been the only qb we've made the playoffs with says more about them than him.

As for this reliability crap. Andrew Walters doesn't have a drug issue and is available to play every week, yet the Raiders, as well as a whole host of teams with qb problems go with those qb's every week, when they'd be better served giving Carter a chance to save their seasons. Mariuchi didn't figure that out and where is he now. Herm Edwards saved his bacon by bringing in Q for year. Maybe these NFL coaches could learn that a 'problematic qb' is better than no qb at all.

Was Carter stupid? Why didn't he know the offense. He spent most of training camp with the Jets, played in pre-season games and didn't appear in the regular season until the middle of the season. If he didn't know the offense by then as you say, then he is stupid. Of course, I believe he did know the offense. What do I know except more than you.
 

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kartr;1137900 said:
Carter had 288 yards passing with 2 tds against the Dolphins and our defense
gave up over 40 points. Hambrick had his usual 26 yards a game rushing. Now you tell me what the problem was. Against the Pats Carter had over 200 yards passing and Hambrick had his 26 yards rushing. Against the Panthers Carter had 254 yards passing and Hambrick had 26 yards rushing. See a pattern here.

You conveniently left out the turnovers that Carter had in those games. Most of those turnovers were on bad reads and poor throws. That falls on the QB.
 

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kartr;1137821 said:
You're kidding right, the Babe lasted only a few games. Carter had victories over first round qb's even as a rookie. Romo is in his 4th year and Bill still isn't sure about him. He knew from the start that Quincy could lead this team. He could have brought Griese in if he had any doubts in '03. Turns out that installing Q as the starter was one of the few things he's done right.

Yet, Hutch started the first pre-season game against Arizona. I guess Bill did not know form the start that Quincy could lead the team. There was a lot that Bill didn't know about that team. He came in and decided to work with what was in place at many positions. He was given Hutch and Carter. He went with it.

Do you want to hang from the rafters with a rope or set on fire Mr. Parcells? You get no other option, but who knows you may get lucky and survive.
 

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It seems to me that as long as Player X plays for the Dallas Cowboys vs any other team, then where everywhere else are very serviceable statistics (ie. Quincy's), somehow they are lessened by the fact "well... they play for the Cowboys".

I maintain, and I am not apologetic about it... Q was one of about three playmakers on our entire team in '04. Galloway being one, and JW the other, and he was as green as our new field turf that year.

Look, what's done is done on the Q issue and I really am over it, but frankly I don't understand why everyone insists that he sucked when clearly he did not.
 

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PS. Hostile... I luv ya bro but if you really think Q's release was based on performance, you need to borrow some of Q's stash cuz ur smokin dope lol ;)
 

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mmohican29;1139749 said:
PS. Hostile... I luv ya bro but if you really think Q's release was based on performance, you need to borrow some of Q's stash cuz ur smokin dope lol ;)
It blows my mind that people actually believe this.

Jerry Jones, an honorable man, said it was due to performance.

Bill Parcells, an eye for talent, said it was because he couldn't trust him. Of course he was talking about on the field.

The CBA says teams can't cut players for drug infractions, yet you guys think the Cowboys did exactly this. I wonder how come they were never sanctioned then? Actually I don't, but you guys should. It's a serious offense to violate the CBA.

The Cowboys have had other players in the past, and since Q, who have been suspended yet they were never released. Not even when the drug infractions were more serious. Why was he singled out? Looking just at this year you guys believe we kept a backup Free Safety but waived the starting QB, who was not going to miss any games just be fined 4 game checks, and it was over marijuana. Waive a guy who won't cost you any games?

Come on guys. How can you say that adds up? Be honest. Basically you're telling me that Bill Parcells had it in for this kid. This despite the fact that he allowed him to compete for the job in 2003, awarded him the job, and never benched him.

We had to release 2 QBs or risk one on the Practice Squad. Parcells simply severed ties with the past regime and got rid of the 2 QBs he felt had the least promise of the 5 he had. I'm so sorry many people liked one of the 2 he got rid of. It means they have to justify that for some reason.

Wouldn't it be easier to just accept at face value the scenario that actually adds up?
 

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mmohican29;1139740 said:
It seems to me that as long as Player X plays for the Dallas Cowboys vs any other team, then where everywhere else are very serviceable statistics (ie. Quincy's), somehow they are lessened by the fact "well... they play for the Cowboys".

I maintain, and I am not apologetic about it... Q was one of about three playmakers on our entire team in '04. Galloway being one, and JW the other, and he was as green as our new field turf that year.

Look, what's done is done on the Q issue and I really am over it, but frankly I don't understand why everyone insists that he sucked when clearly he did not.
Q wasn't on the 2004 team, so he couldn't have been one of the 3 playmakers you speak of. Neither was Galloway. Who is JW?
 
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