Holy Holm knocks out Rousey

Risen Star said:
That fight would be just as lopsided on the ground. Rousey would absolutely destroy Holm in a grappling contest. You might as well bring a fan in to replace Holm.

That was about the most idiotic gameplan I've ever seen from a fighter. That was the only way an inferior talent like Holm could win that fight. She showed Holm no respect for her boxing ability and paid the price for it. Her instructions between rounds really shows how inept her trainer is.

One thing not being talked about is what a POS Holly Holm is for striking a clearly unconscious opponent until the ref pulls her off. I really hope that comes back to her later in her career and she is pummeled past the point of consciousness. Worse than the beating Anne Sophie Mathis put on her.

As for now, unless Holm is fighting Rousey nobody will give two bleeps about her. She'll be an awful draw as the champion. She has the charisma of a pile of rocks and while this fight was exciting, most of her fights are like getting your taxes done. Unless Ronda radically changes her approach and maybe even changing her trainer, she might not fare much better in the rematch. She's not a boxer. She'll never be a boxer. She isn't going to beat Holm boxing. If she turns it into an MMA fight, she'll wipe the mat with Holm. I'd say there are probably a dozen fighters in that division who could beat Holm if they can turn it into a grappling contest.
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What makes you think that Ronda could just go in there and grapple and win?

She tried to grapple with her and Holm is just physically superior to her. Shes bigger, stronger, and clearly had the strength to get Ronda off of her.

This is a matchup that Ronda just cant win unless she pulls off a submission somehow.


Also, LOL at Holm being a POS for striking Rousey when she was "out". That is a common thing in the UFC for a fighter to go after another fighter when they go down like that. It;s up to the ref to break it up. Even after the first punch Herb Dean wasnt ready to call it so she 100% did the right thing.

If you want to talk about cheap shots then lets talk about Rousey hitting Holm after the bell.



IMO, Holm is super talented. Her striking is beyond elite, shes physically amazing, and she is super smart.

She will need to just keep working on her defenses and shes in a perfect camp for that.
 
viman96 said:
Agreed. IMO Ronda would need to be less aggressive and find a way to get Holly on the mat.
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Yep..

Holm fought a Machida style of fight against Rousey and Rousey just kept walking into it.


If Rousey can't submit Holm she can't beat her.

Her only other option would be to try to get on top of her and hold her down but Holm is just so physically superior to Rousey that I don't see that happening.


Ronda was saying that all these girls thought they had the answer but after they fought they realize that they didn't even know the question. Well this will be the case with her and Holm. It's a mismatch.
 
I do not find submissions boring. However I do admit for those not into that style will not find it as exciting as a standup fight.
 
viman96 said:
I do not find submissions boring. However I do admit for those not into that style will not find it as exciting as a standup fight.
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I love the ground game as long as they're working.

If you just lay on a guy then it's hard to watch.
 
Isn't this a major upset because in a real fight, the grappler always beats the boxer, no?
 
CATCH17 said:
What makes you think that Ronda could just go in there and grapple and win?

She tried to grapple with her and Holm is just physically superior to her. Shes bigger, stronger, and clearly had the strength to get Ronda off of her.

This is a matchup that Ronda just cant win unless she pulls off a submission somehow.


Also, LOL at Holm being a POS for striking Rousey when she was "out". That is a common thing in the UFC for a fighter to go after another fighter when they go down like that. It;s up to the ref to break it up. Even after the first punch Herb Dean wasnt ready to call it so she 100% did the right thing.

If you want to talk about cheap shots then lets talk about Rousey hitting Holm after the bell.



IMO, Holm is super talented. Her striking is beyond elite, shes physically amazing, and she is super smart.

She will need to just keep working on her defenses and shes in a perfect camp for that.
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Please show me where you were bragging about how superior Holms is before this fight. It's so easy to say these things after the fight. Anyone one can do that. If you are such a genius, where were your glowing proclamations about Holm's superiority before this fight. Where are the bank loads of cash you won betting on Holms if you thought this way before the fight. LOL
 
mrtxstar said:
Please show me where you were bragging about how superior Holms is before this fight. It's so easy to say these things after the fight. Anyone one can do that. If you are such a genius, where were your glowing proclamations about Holm's superiority before this fight. Where are the bank loads of cash you won betting on Holms if you thought this way before the fight. LOL
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I wasn't.. Didn't realize it until they stood in the ring. How could anyone?

Once the fight started it was clear that Holm was physically superior.


I'm as shocked as anyone how much more physically superior she was.


So I don't know what you tried to prove here.
 
Stryker44 said:
Isn't this a major upset because in a real fight, the grappler always beats the boxer, no?
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Depends on the boxer and the grappler. The grappler has to get the boxer to the ground and keep the boxer there.

If you have a boxer who is accurate with his/her punches and great with his/her foot work, it's going to be difficult getting him/her to the ground and not getting hit by some accurate bombs in the process.

Guys/Gals fighting MMA are not world-class boxers, most of them anyway.

A world-class boxer can knock you to the ground with an accurate punch before you get a chance to complete a double-leg takedown.

That's why I laughed at some who think Rousey could beat Floyd Mayweather. She's be out cold before she could maneuver into a position to take him down.
 
CATCH17 said:
I wasn't.. Didn't realize it until they stood in the ring. How could anyone?

Once the fight started it was clear that Holm was physically superior.


I'm as shocked as anyone how much more physically superior she was.


So I don't know what you tried to prove here.
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Are you saying Holly Holm physically got bigger after she got in the ring? If that's your opinion I can tell you she is the same size now that she was last week. Her "physical superiority" was never a secret. It was even spelled out in the beginning of the match in the "Tale of the Tape".

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Risen Star said:
No they don't. I've seen countless fights where they pull back. Literally too many to count.

That's my scumbag litmus test and Holly failed. I hope she gets her head taken off before she retires.
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You seem to have your Ronda Rousey panties in a wad. Fighters do the same thing all the time. We all know it.
 
mrtxstar said:
Are you saying Holly Holm physically got bigger after she got in the ring? If that's your opinion I can tell you she is the same size now that she was last week. Her "physical superiority" was never a secret. It was even spelled out in the beginning of the match in the "Tale of the Tape".

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Ok? So then why didn't you bet on her then if you knew she was physically superior? Since it was such common knowledge ahead of time.. Where is the loads of money you bet? blah blah blah.
 
CATCH17 said:
Ok? So then why didn't you bet on her then if you knew she was physically superior? Since it was such common knowledge ahead of time.. Where is the loads of money you bet? blah blah blah.
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I collected last night so eat you jackass remark.
 
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