jimmy40;3832894 said:wow, I can't believe it. Dave Ward is still doing the news.
well that may be the dumbest thing ever posted. sure was nice of the criminal to jump over the hood of that car and lay down where there would be no car cameras. There has to be some video of the cops parking all their cars a certain way and then telling the criminal "ok, run this way and give up over here".theogt;3832532 said:Notice how they managed to make sure that they were BEHIND the police cars, so there wouldn't be any police car cameras viewing the beating.
Without that security camera, no one would know.
BrAinPaiNt;3832847 said:Crazy Stuff.
What some people who think it is ok forget is...This type of thing actually takes the onus off of the law breaker and turns those that are to enforce the law into law breakers as well.
What this also does is continue to reinforce the division between some neighborhoods and the law...to the point that they will not help the law when the law needs help (as in being a witness or helping in investigations).
It also makes it more dangerous for the cops out on the street due to these bad feelings towards them.
The shame of it all is that there are always some good cops out there that unfairly get grouped with the bad ones due to this type of thing.
Think if you lived in that area or was around that area when it happened. Seen the boy lay down and give up and still the cops kept beating the crap out of them.
Down the road if there was a crime in your area that those cops needed help with and came to your house to ask if you seen anything happening or knew where so and so was...would you want to help them after you seen them doing that kind of thing. Chances are your view of them would be skewed and again that sucks for the good cops that work their butts off every day to make the community safer.
nyc;3833012 said:All of them should be charge with felony charges with mandatory jail time, plus never be able to work in any type of law enforcement or job that allow you to use any type of force or carry a weapon.
Whoever decided to bring the weak charges rather than the charges that should have been filed, should also be charged with impeding justice and also be fired.
heavyg;3833019 said:I agree 100%. But I would also like to add that the little punk who got beat should not be allowed to sue the city for any damages. What they did to him was wrong but he should also pay for his crime, not get paid.
BrAinPaiNt;3833020 said:Not sure why both can not happen.
He can pay for his crime through the court (if found guilty he).
He should also be able to sue for what they did.
Two different cases.
WoodysGirl;3832545 said:Should've known the ambulance chaser would be part of this video. *smh*
This is one of those situations where two wrongs don't make a right.
The little boy was wrong for trying to burglarize a home, but once he surrendered, the cops should've cuffed him and that would've been the end of it.
But nope, they had to get their Rodney King on and got busted. Sucks all they got charged were misdemeanors.
heavyg;3833022 said:Im sure it can and will happen. But the bigger question is should it? Punk got a bit of a beating and will end up with more money than he would probably ever earn in his life time. All after commiting a burglary? How would you feel if it was your home he robbed? Im not of the mind set the cops should have done what they did. But like a poster earlier said I have no sympathy for what he got. Its a catch 22 I guess......Two wrongs do not make a right
BrAinPaiNt;3833033 said:If the cops did not do something stupid, if they just did their jobs...he would be arrested and would not have a good case against them.
That's how I see it.
heavyg;3833019 said:I agree 100%. But I would also like to add that the little punk who got beat should not be allowed to sue the city for any damages. What they did to him was wrong but he should also pay for his crime, not get paid.
nyc;3833054 said:Well, they do owe him some restitution, (a crime was committed against him) but nothing ridiculous. Probably a few thousand dollars plus any medical bills, but I doubt he has any since he was in jail. No way in hell it should effect the jail time he should be getting for the burglary.
Hoofbite;3832237 said:All of those officers should be behind bars. They should be in prison for a lengthy sentence.
They are entrusted with being some of the most upstanding citizens that we can offer and should be held to a higher standard when committing stupid acts like this.
This.........WoodysGirl;3832545 said:This is one of those situations where two wrongs don't make a right.
The little boy was wrong for trying to burglarize a home, but once he surrendered, the cops should've cuffed him and that would've been the end of it.
Danny White;3832827 said:The police are not appointed as "judge, jury, and executioner" to mete out punishment as they see fit.
You are innocent until proven guilty, and for the police to be dishing out street judgement for those who they deem guilty is a dangerous precedent.
BrAinPaiNt;3833020 said:Not sure why both can not happen.
He can pay for his crime through the court (if found guilty he).
He should also be able to sue for what they did.
Two different cases.
I ask Mr. Eastwood about the final scene in one of his earlier Dirty Harry movies, when his character throws away his badge after shooting one more "scumbag." Marshall Will Kane, played by Gary Cooper, does the same thing at the end of "High Noon" when the townspeople abandon him to face a murderous gang alone. It's a classic theme in Westerns: Does society expect too much from its lawmen, only to spurn them when they deliver?
"Society is at odds with itself," says Mr. Eastwood. "They want law and order but . . ." he pauses, perhaps thinking he sounds too much like Dirty Harry. "I was always intrigued by this guy who was frustrated by not being able to solve problems due to the obstacles put up by society itself—by the bureaucracy in society. . . . That didn't mean I was against a criminal's right to justice, to a defense, and all that sort of thing. Though a lot of people interpreted it that way because when you do those roles people go, 'Hey, that's the way the guy thinks.' That's kind of a left-handed compliment in a way, you think, 'Oh, I convinced you that much? Good!'"...
Rynie;3833321 said:Exactly. If I'm not mistaken the victim has a civil case for sure.