How bad are we going to be?

[Stash]

On defense we are going to have better overall depth at DB and DL. We won't have glaring holes to attack last year like FS and 3rd CB. We will have a better approach with DL using Marinelli's wave attack. Our LBs will be worse.

Again, hopes and dreams with no facts to substantiate any of it. Just like I've said.

But the biggest improvement for the defense is that the offense will be on the field longer to keep the defense off the field (and from being exposed as much as last year).

Wow. Jerry is a rich man thanks to folks like you.

Hook, line, and sinker...

 

[Kaiser]

And yet the 'Shell of his former self' is still world's better than anything the Cowboys can point to as a replacement. There's a fact for ya!

Its not a fact, its projection. You are proving my point - again. Ware had TWO sacks in the last 13 games of last seasons. Its total projection to claim that is "world's better" than what we have on the roster (especially if Spencer and Lawrence are 100% for the last 13 games of the season). Its beyond projection to claim that as a fact.

 

[Stash]

top ten pick bad

Draft Day 2015!

Let's get a head start.

Who are the top defensive linemen for the 2015 draft?

 

[Stash]

Its not a fact, its projection. You are proving my point - again. Ware had TWO sacks in the last 13 games of last seasons. Its total projection to claim that is "world's better" than what we have on the roster (especially if Spencer and Lawrence are 100% for the last 13 games of the season). Its beyond projection to claim that as a fact.

Tell me a more proven option?

Give me a name?

I'll save you the trouble. You can't! Because there isn't one!

 

[Kaiser]

Again, hopes and dreams with no facts to substantiate any of it. Just like I've said.



Wow. Jerry is a rich man thanks to folks like you.

Hook, line, and sinker...

This is just stupid and personal attacks make you look chidlish. For all the problems last year the team finished 8 - 8 and people like you were claiming they would be more like 3 - 13.

 

[Kaiser]

Tell me a more proven option?

Give me a name?

I'll save you the trouble. You can't! Because there isn't one!

How about the two names in the post you replied to? Is reading more than one sentence above your comprehension ability?

 

[Stash]

This is just stupid and personal attacks make you look chidlish. For all the problems last year the team finished 8 - 8 and people like you were claiming they would be more like 3 - 13.

It's not a personal attack at all. If you choose to buy into this being a good team, that's your choice.

In my opinion, you're supporting a sub-par product, but you have the right to do whatever you want with your money.

But don't expect others to buy into it.

 

[Stash]

How about the two names in the post you replied to? Is reading more than one sentence above your comprehension ability?

The injured, completely unproven rookie or the guy who was never close to as good as Ware in his entire career coming over major surgery whose not even ready to play?

Seriously, if that's what you're trying to rely on it's embarrassing.

 

[Kaiser]

The injured, completely unproven rookie or the guy who was never close to as good as Ware in his entire career coming over major surgery whose not even ready to play?

Seriously, if that's what you're trying to rely on it's embarrassing.

Embarrassing is a juvenile hater claiming that no one could reach the lofty standards Ware put up last year. The standard of 2 sacks in 13 games.

 

[Stash]

Embarrassing is a juvenile hater claiming that no one could reach the lofty standards Ware put up last year. The standard of 2 sacks in 13 games.

If seeing this team's defense and roster for the dumpster fire that it is makes me a 'juvenile hater' so be it.

It's preferable to lying to myself and singing "the sun'll come out, tomorrow!"...

 

[Kaiser]

If seeing this team's defense and roster for the dumpster fire that it is makes me a 'juvenile hater' so be it.

Acceptance is the first step to recovery.

 

[5Stars]

If seeing this team's defense and roster for the dumpster fire that it is makes me a 'juvenile hater' so be it.

It's preferable to lying to myself and singing "the sun'll come out, tomorrow!"...

Yeah, you got the Cowboys only winning 5 games.

 

[Stash]

Yeah, you got the Cowboys only winning 5 games.

Exactly, I'm under no illusions that this is a good defense.

And it amazes me how an ex-Cowboys player like Ware gets hammered for being injured, but it's a free pass for guys like Melton, Spencer, and Lawrence - a totally unproven player.

Oh the hypocrisy!

 

[igtmfo]

I will always wonder why the team quit on Wade Phillips after they went 11-5 in 2009. .. And opened 1-7 in 2010, then quit.

Why? Any player would have had to respect Wade better (in theory) and want to play for him. Redball had never done anything. OK a QB coach at Miami. And a fairly good year statswise with Sparano probably running things the year before.

Surely Wade had the RKG thing not a bunch of convicts.

It could be in 2009 that the team totally outperformed their talent level, then pooped out. They were more veterans, not kids desperate for a week-to-week contract, like it has been since then.

The team Parcells built absolutely peaked with high effort in 2009, beat Eagles, got whipped by Vikings up there.

The scouts on the team now are the same guys that Parcells hired 8-9-10 years ago. Younger guys, not the old Lacewell crowd, who Parcells fired, with only a few exceptions.

The history of the Cowboys success can be roughly expressed thus:
1960-1983: Gil Brandt, but Tex and perhaps Gil hired the best scouting staff in the NFL.
1983-1988: Gil was great, but as he has said, teams caught up to him. Perhaps he knew (Tex knew it!) that behind him was a young scouting staff that was the best in the NFL, and perhaps in NFL history. Gil though, still ran the draft and ran it not by empirical methods, but by recommendations of coaches in the NCAA, Div. II III NAIA etc. Gil had the most amazing contacts of any scout in NFL history. And he put his board together that way. Unfortunately Gil could not, did not grade tape. It was by way of recommendations, 40 times, height-weight-speed etc.
1989 draft-1992 draft: The greatest scouting staff in NFL history who Tex Schramm hired behind Gil Brandt as assistants in the decades before - who bought the Cowboys 3 Super Bowls once Jerry let Gil go (And this my friends, might have been the greatest move of Jerry toward those Super Bowls). Without mentioning names, Jerry fired that staff summer 1992 I think, because they were the last the Tex Schramm guys around Valley Ranch. Jerry couldn't be content unless he killed the last of the "old daddy" Tex Schramm.

Many newspaper articles in 1992, guys in the know back then, said the same, and warned Jerry about firing this super staff of scouts then, guys who were only barely into their 50s agewise, and might have bought more championships through the 90s. (I will send them to you, if you desire, don't want to link them here)

Instead, Jerry hired ... (wait please) .. Larry Lacewell etc. 1993 draft until 2004 I think. ...

Jerry never fired any of these 1992-hired scouts until Parcells came in and did it. .. Redball's dad was one of these scouts.

It's good, very good that Parcells/Ireland fired about all these scouts (Redball's dad, Lacewell, Stretch Smith, Bryan Broaddus sorry Bryan love you but ...)

These new scouts Parcells/Ireland hired, young guys that we don't know their names, bought us 8-8 record, instead of a 5-11 Campo record.

But since then, Jerry has never fired a scout from the Parcells/Ireland days. ... Well they were better scouts than the 1992-2004 days when Jerry didn't fire any of them either. The only scouts sticking around from them old Jimmy/Lacewell days now are: Chris Hall (who I don't think has ever been an area scout, but just a grader now, working his way up to the top), Tom Ciskowski, maybe one other oldster like Walter Julieff is still with us ...

I want to say this again, best that I know:

Jerry Jones has never fired a scout that his administration hired.

True.

Jerry is a good man, sentimental about all his hires. Tex Schramm hires, not so much.

Before the Jimmy envy, Jerry was envious of Tex. (Boys, this may be the Jerry biography in 9 words.)

We need a GM to investigate, fire the scouts that are average to below average to bad.

Do you think Jerry our GM burns the night oil, doing this?

 

[TheDude]

Consolidated from another thread. trend is worsening just a little - keeping inline with overall Vegas bias.

 

[JoeKing]

As a homer, I think we can win the NFC East but the realist in me says 8-8 would be impressive.

 

[CCBoy]

And funny how a horrible defense that lost a number of starters to defections and injury is expected to help us get to . . . 10-6? I think you meant 6-10, but hey, you are an optomist, always seeing the liqer bottle as half full.

Don't worry Gimme, we have the Liquor Store guy on speed dial...

 

[CooterBrown]

8-8/9-7

8-8. Win some they should lose, and lose too many they should win. Seems to be a pattern developing.

 

[9darter]

6 wins.

 

[Arkyvarminter]

It's not a personal attack at all. If you choose to buy into this being a good team, that's your choice.

In my opinion, you're supporting a sub-par product, but you have the right to do whatever you want with your money.

But don't expect others to buy into it.

Dude...chill