How Confident are you in Fredrick?

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SilverStarCowboy;5092020 said:
Frederick is the best in Dallas since Mark Stepnoski and Ray Donaldson, ending the near two Decades of the Center being blown up into the back field on a regular basis.

I hope you're right but could we maybe see him in pads first.
 

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SilverStarCowboy;5092020 said:
Frederick is the best in Dallas since Mark Stepnoski and Ray Donaldson, ending the near two Decades of the Center being blown up into the back field on a regular basis.

I think so too. Center is so important. After Step, our offense was terrible until they got Donaldson.
 

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SilverStarCowboy;5092020 said:
Frederick is the best in Dallas since Mark Stepnoski and Ray Donaldson, ending the near two Decades of the Center being blown up into the back field on a regular basis.

Gurode was good for a 4-5 year period. It sucked we had to use a OG to help him with theline calls but he was good.
 

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morasp;5092127 said:
I think so too. Center is so important. After Step, our offense was terrible until they got Donaldson.

Donaldson immediately replaced Stepnoski... there was no one in between them....
 

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I'll wait and see. I have little faith in anything that comes out of the coaching staffs mouth regarding offensive linemen after the absolute BS they spouted about the stiffs they signed last offseason.
 

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I'd like to see them cut Berny, Arkin & Livings. Then sign Lurgersky (sp) to play guard with Leary.
 

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CowboyMcCoy;5091397 said:
Going into the season, are you really confident he makes us a better team?

..it's not an easy position and his first season will be on and off. But I've been waiting for 3 decades for the Cowboys to finally draft a solid center for a change and not just try to convert reject G's and T's.

I think I was demanded by Romo who is tired of poor center play and we needed a bodyguard for Romo in the middle.

Now if we'd just take Free and move him to G next to him..we'd have the beginnings of a solid front wall going on.

:bow: RedBaLL ExPreSS:bow:
 

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Redball Express;5092394 said:
..it's not an easy position and his first season will be on and off. But I've been waiting for 3 decades for the Cowboys to finally draft a solid center for a change and not just try to convert reject G's and T's.

I think I was demanded by Romo who is tired of poor center play and we needed a bodyguard for Romo in the middle.

Now if we'd just take Free and move him to G next to him..we'd have the beginnings of a solid front wall going on.

:bow: RedBaLL ExPreSS:bow:

Free to guard?

His major weakness is power so why would he be better against DT than DE?
 

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jrumann59;5092132 said:
Gurode was good for a 4-5 year period. It sucked we had to use a OG to help him with theline calls but he was good.

Gurode was OK. The Cowboys kept saying they were waiting for it to all click with him though. They thought he could have been better.
 

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To all of you who keep complaining that he was a reach with the 31st pick because it was a first rounder but would have been ok with the pick if he had been taken two spots lower because he would have been a second rounder...... I think you are really complaining just to be complaining.

Dallas has done a pretty good job of drafting the past several drafts, so I am willing to cut them a little more slack on their draft picks than I was prior to that time. They obviously didnt go strictly best player available throughout the draft but if they have evaluated the players right, then they should, on paper, be very pleased with the outcome of this draft.
 

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fairviewfarmer;5092240 said:
Donaldson immediately replaced Stepnoski... there was no one in between them....

Unless I'm wrong Kennard started four games in 95 and Donaldson started 12.
 

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CowboyMcCoy;5092396 said:
Gurode was OK. The Cowboys kept saying they were waiting for it to all click with him though. They thought he could have been better.

Just ok? In the 9 seasons he played for the us (2002-2010) he was selected to the probowl in 5 consecutive years (2006-2010). He was also voted all nfl first team by sporting News(2007) and 2nd team by AP (2009).

He did have share of bad moments but he was better than ok.
 

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morasp;5092414 said:
Unless I'm wrong Kennard started four games in 95 and Donaldson started 12.
Donaldson started the first 12 games of 95, did an outstanding job,and then got hurt. When Derek Kennard replaced him the O came to a standstill, coincidence or not. But my original point was that Donaldson was signed to specifically replace Stepnoski. There was no one else in between them.
 

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CowboyMcCoy;5091397 said:
Going into the season, are you really confident he makes us a better team?

on scale of 1 thru 10 (1 being total bust and 10 being game changing all pro) I would give him a 6 at this stage. Improvement but nothing remotely dominating.
 

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fairviewfarmer;5092742 said:
Donaldson started the first 12 games of 95, did an outstanding job,and then got hurt. When Derek Kennard replaced him the O came to a standstill, coincidence or not. But my original point was that Donaldson was signed to specifically replace Stepnoski. There was no one else in between them.

you're right.
 
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Frederick is a second round talent draft pick, how much confidence can you have in him when early first rounders like Ryan Leaf fail all the time? I'm happy that Jerry was forced to begrudgingly up the ante a little bit for the OL, but really, how far removed is this pick from 3rd rounders like Arkin, Martin and Brewster?

Hopeful- Yes
Confident? No
 

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EGG;5092915 said:
Frederick is a second round talent draft pick, how much confidence can you have in him when early first rounders like Ryan Leaf fail all the time? I'm happy that Jerry was forced to begrudgingly up the ante a little bit for the OL, but really, how far removed is this pick from 3rd rounders like Arkin, Martin and Brewster?

Hopeful- Yes
Confident? No


Well said........
 

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Oh well, if we would have taken Jay Ratliff in the first round the entire football community would have said we had lost our minds.

Let's just see how the guy plays, and how he snaps the ball.
 

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It is comical how some of you guys build up these players.

So this rookie who has never played a snap in the NFL is automatically the best center we have had in 20 years? Really?

Matt Johnson hasn't even sniffed the football field and he is the great white hope of the safety position.

I can understand optimism, but this is beyond stupid.
 
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