How do Dallas fans really feel about Wade?

[Cliff]

Yes on Cowher.

I think what many people hoped, I was one of them, that Bill would have came back for one more season and than the Cowboys would have made a run at bringing in Cowher.

However that was not in the cards I guess once bill retired.

Jackpot!.... Tuna screwed us.... I wonder if he did it on purpose?....

 

[sago1]

I like the pick given our selection choices. Our defense let us down during the last half of the season and most of it had to do either misuse of these players or too conservative playcalling--on both sides of the ball. Wade extensive knowledge/use of the 3-4 will ensure our defensive players have stability with use of same system but Phillips much less conservative and certainly knows how to get the best out of his defensive players.

Also those who say he failed every place he was a HC should realize he had a winning record and took teams to 4 playoffs. Admittedly don't think they ever won a playoff game but we haven't won any either since 96 win over the Vikes. I also don't believe Phillips has come to a team which has good players and can be a legit SB contender. He'll bring more pressure on opponent QBs not only cause he blitzes more but also because he disguises his blitzes better--something we haven't done well. It will be interesting who he names as his DC and other defensive coaches as well on offense. Wonder if Garrett now will actually be the OC or will Soprano will have lot of influence. Who knows maybe we will even bring in a legit successful OL coach. At least Garrett should help Romo to progresses to a consistent higher level of play with less turnovers. Admit to being concerned if Garrett actually ready for OC role but he's a student and certainly learned a lot while Cowboys backup (under Norv), along with similar role with the Giants (under Payton), etc.

 

[Biggems]

I'm stoked cause I think Wade is a stand up guy. He knows defense and I love defense. I cannot wait to see the impact Wade has on Ware, Carpenter, Roy, etc...

Also, with Wade, I am hopeful he can bring some of the SD assistants with him. It would be awesome if Wade could lure OL Coach John "Jack" Henry and DL Coach Wayne Nunnely to Dallas. It sure would give our trenches a lot of stability.

 

[BrAinPaiNt]

Jackpot!.... Tuna screwed us.... I wonder if he did it on purpose?....

Of course...he was doing it because he was still a New York Giant and wanted to hurt the cowboys.

Ok...I am joking of course but there were actually people that believed that Bill was trying to screw us over in the past because of him still being a Giant.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

I think that Phillips makes a lot of sense in certain ways. I like the fact he understands the 34 and that he's a Texas Boy. I think he's a straight shooter but in the end, I think it will probably turn out bad. Hiring a Phillips or a Norv sends the signal that there here only for a short time. I think thats the wrong message to send to a young team. I think that any coach hired to be here for the short term is going to be undermind in areas of authority. At least, I believe the players will view it that way.

A younger coach would probably have sent a different message. Rivera would have been my choice but it's done now. I will support him as my teams Head Coach and wait to see who the next guy is.

 

[Zaxor]

I think the junior Bum is a mistake... now having said that I think it will take him a year to **** up beyond belief...I expect the first half of the season next year to be okay and the second half to be a steady decline.

The "X" factor in all of this is Jason Garrett...it might be possible that he will be able to save the junior Bum...but that is asking an awful lot of Red Ball.

GM Zaxor would have never interviewed junior Bum and would have looked for someone that would be there for awhile.

 

[BrAinPaiNt]

I think the junior Bum is a mistake... now having said that I think it will take him a year to **** up beyond belief...I expect the first half of the season next year to be okay and the second half to be a steady decline.

The "X" factor in all of this is Jason Garrett...it might be possible that he will be able to save the junior Bum...but that is asking an awful lot of Red Ball.

GM Zaxor would have never interviewed junior Bum and would have looked for someone that would be there for awhile.

Either I am confused by your takes or you are kind of contradicting yourself.

You hope that Garrett will save the Junior bum in one sentence but in the enxt you would have looked for someone that would be there for awhile.

So I take it you either wanted Redball to be the HC so he could be there for awhile or you wanted a Different HC all together and not worried about Redball being a future HC.

 

[AtlCB]

I think that Phillips makes a lot of sense in certain ways. I like the fact he understands the 34 and that he's a Texas Boy. I think he's a straight shooter but in the end, I think it will probably turn out bad. Hiring a Phillips or a Norv sends the signal that there here only for a short time. I think thats the wrong message to send to a young team. I think that any coach hired to be here for the short term is going to be undermind in areas of authority. At least, I believe the players will view it that way.

A younger coach would probably have sent a different message. Rivera would have been my choice but it's done now. I will support him as my teams Head Coach and wait to see who the next guy is.

That might be the case, but the players also know that the next head coach is already on the staff and is evaluating them as well. The only time this might become an issue is if Phillips and Garrett cannot solve a disagreement between the two.

 

[Om]

From the Loyal Opposition ... a little grist for your Thursday mill.

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Seriously bummed. No Norv.

Oh well ... some first-impression thoughts, questions and ruminations on the Dallas Cowboys reportedly set to hire Wade Phillips as “head coach.”

• From the moment he signs his contract, the clock starts ticking. How long before Jerry Jones gets impatient and begins the process of orchestrating Phillip’s inevitable ouster in favor of fair-haired-boy Jason Garrett? I bet there are office pools by the end of the week. My gut over/under: Game 10 of Year Two.

• WR Terrell Owens, even at this moment, may well be on his cell with some of his boys. Know what they’re cackling about? How much fun El Dorado is going to have messing with nice guy Wade Phillips.

• QB Tony Romo--he of the four years on the bench behind guys like Testaverde, Bledsoe and even Henson--better turn out to be a consistent Pro Bowl level QB, like he looked in his first few games last year and not his last, because if he’s not, there ain’t much in the hopper. Without a premium QB, Wade Phillips just doesn’t inspire much fear.

• Gotta wonder already ... just what is Phillips’s role going to be in terms of player evaluation and acquisition? Has he asked for control over his roster? How much? And, assuming he’s ever had any in his previous stops, is he any good at it? Good thing Jerry Jones is there to provide good solid football expertise in that area.

• Regardless of who calls the roster shots, how far behind the curve are the Cowboys now that the coaching search has lasted well into February? FA starts in a few weeks, and their newly minted head coach, presumably, has yet to meet his current players or begun to watch any film. One assumes he and Garrett will not be running the same offense Dallas has run for the past 4 years under Tuna.

Naturally, as would be the case in any similar situation, heir new offense will require different skill sets at certain positions. They are under the gun immediately to not only evaluate all their current talent quickly, but figure out what changes/additions they need to make and evaluate potential candidates.

Same holds true on defense. Phillips runs a 3-4 and so did Dallas last year, yes, but that does not equate to continuity. 3-4's are not all created equal, any more than all WCO’s are on the other side of the ball.

Lots of work to do, gents, and not a whole lot of time to do it. Tick tock.

• What must current Cowboy players be saying amongst themselves this morning? They’re not stupid–they have to be thinking this is an interim move (Phillips keeping the seat warm for Garrett) like the rest of the football world does. Are they likely to come to camp primed, pumped and ready to give body and soul to retread interim head coach Wade Phillips ... or are some of them going to be more like we used to be in high school when we found out the really strict regular teacher was out sick, and we had that one really mild, kinda quiet substitute in for the next couple weeks?

• And then, of course, there’s The Jerry Jones Factor. There was little doubt who The Man in Dallas was in Bill Parcells’ time (with the exception of having TO apparently foisted upon him by JJ, which, in retrospect, may have been the catalyst that eventually led to Tuna’s departure). Still, the players and coaches and media and fans all knew who was in charge. The Cowboys, for four years, were Bill Parcells’ Team.

For the next [fill in low number here] year, they will not be Wade Phillips Team. The man simply hasn’t got the gravitas, charisma or reputation to wrestle that mantle away from Jerry Jones. And it's hard not to look at this hire and the Garrett factor in toto and not see an owner ready to go to the mat. There is only one other example in the NFL of an owner who is, and intends to be, without question, the face of his franchise. Can you name him? [Hint: no, not Dan Snyder.]

And further, is there a moral in that story?

• Make no mistake. Today, the Dallas Cowboys officially became Jerry Jones’s Team again. They’ve been there before. In the nine season between the time he fired Jimmy Johnson and hired Parcells ...

In 1994 and 1995 they went 12-4 both years under Barry Switzer, riding Johnson’s considerable momentum (not to mention the HOF trio of QB Troy Aikman, RB Emmitt Smith and WR Michael Irvin) that Jimmy brought them. In those two years, they overcame the Barry Switzer/Jerry Jones Circus Maximus and managed to win the last of their 3 Super Bowls from that era in ‘95.

Then the wheels started to come off. 1996 ended 10-6, followed by 6-10 in 1997 and the end of the “Switzer Era.” By 1998, Jones was ready to assume complete control, and we saw the one 8-8 year of the mild, milquetoast nice guy "Chan Gailey Era." And for the 3 seasons after that, Jerry Jones led mild, milquetoast nice guy Dave Campo around by the nose, and the two of them led the Cowboys to 3 consecutive 5-11 seasons.

At that point, even Mr. Jones had to admit he needed someone around who could at least weigh the other side of the seesaw down.

• After four years of (mostly quietly) watching a legendary strongman figure run his team, more than hold down his side of the seesaw and become the unquestioned Face of the Franchise, that coach retires. We'll not speculate as to how much of a role Jones played in that retirement. It doesn't really matter. What does is that, lo and behold, on the heels of Mr. Parcells' long walk into the sunset, Mr. Jones has gone out and found himself a mild, milquetoast nice guy--a guy just happy to be getting another shot at the big whistle--who, one assumes, is willing to play a distant second fiddle to his GM/Owner.

Welcome back to the future.

 

[SultanOfSix]

• Make no mistake. Today, the Dallas Cowboys officially became Jerry Jones’s Team again. They’ve been there before. In the nine season between the time he fired Jimmy Johnson and hired Parcells ...

I sense a lot of hole searching in your post due to your failed expectation and hope that Norv would be named the head coach.

Regardless, the Cowboys have always been Jerry's team, and he has 3 SBs to show for it.

Unfortunately, the Commanders have always been Snyders' team, and he has a couple of playoff victories to show for it.

 

[superpunk]

At that point, even Mr. Jones had to admit he needed someone around who could at least weigh the other side of the seesaw down.

• After four years of (mostly quietly) watching a legendary strongman figure run his team, more than hold down his side of the seesaw and become the unquestioned Face of the Franchise, that coach retires. We'll not speculate as to how much of a role Jones played in that retirement. It doesn't really matter. What does is that, lo and behold, on the heels of Mr. Parcells' long walk into the sunset, Mr. Jones has gone out and found himself a mild, milquetoast nice guy--a guy just happy to be getting another shot at the big whistle--who, one assumes, is willing to play a distant second fiddle to his GM/Owner.

Welcome back to the future.

Is it really THAT boring at ES?

Short of all the conjecture and projection about our future, Jerry made the right hire right now. He made the best choice. That's all that matters right now. The rest will work itself out.

 

[zrinkill]

Welcome back to the future.

Same tired old stupid Commander take .......

Joe Gibbs and the little Owner are running you're franchise in the ground.

No matter how bad it gets in Cowboyland sometimes ........ we can always say "hey at least we are not the Commanders" ....

 

[BrAinPaiNt]

From the Loyal Opposition ... a little grist for your Thursday mill.

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Seriously bummed. No Norv.

Holy Moly...did Hostile possess you and force you to write a novella? :

I would address your opinions or questions one by one but to be honest you wore me out.


Maybe I will take on the task later today...let me just celebrate a little that Norv was not hired first.
Plus the I don't feel like a fish that would take the magic worm floating on a hook right now.

 

[AmishCowboy]

The main problem with this team was Defense, Wade should at least fix that, Soprano and Garrett should able up to keep the Offense going. I at least think we won't be as Conservative on both sides of the Ball. Fixing the O-line is the Number 1 offseason goal.

 

[WoodysGirl]

Holy Moly...did Hostile possess you and force you to write a novella? :

I would address your opinions or questions one by one but to be honest you wore me out.

Maybe I will take on the task later today...let me just celebrate a little that Norv was not hired first.

Funny, I was thinking the same thing when I read it.

The one thing I thought consistently about is that there were a whole lot of assumptions in that post. But since that's all everyone else is doing, I wouldn't hold it against him.

 

[Om]

I sense a lot of hole searching in your post due to your failed expectation and hope that Norv would be named the head coach.

Regardless, the Cowboys have always been Jerry's team, and he has 3 SBs to show for it.

Unfortunately, the Commanders have always been Snyders' team, and he has a couple of playoff victories to show for it.

You bet I'm bummed Jones didn't hire Norv. It would have been epic.

As to bringing Snyder into the discussion already ... why? I was talking about Jones and what he's done with his team since firing one of the great personnel evaluator/head coaches of the modern era in Jimmy Johnson, for what appeared (from the outside at least) to be nothing more than ego. This latest move smacks of history repeating itself. I'm interested in hearing reasons why passionate Cowboy fans might see it otherwise.

 

[percyhoward]

• What must current Cowboy players be saying amongst themselves this morning? They’re not stupid–they have to be thinking this is an interim move (Phillips keeping the seat warm for Garrett) like the rest of the football world does. Are they likely to come to camp primed, pumped and ready to give body and soul to retread interim head coach Wade Phillips ... or are some of them going to be more like we used to be in high school when we found out the really strict regular teacher was out sick, and we had that one really mild, kinda quiet substitute in for the next couple weeks?

Garrett's not "out sick" though. He's already in Dallas. If players don't give body and soul now, they weren't going to do so later anyway.

 

[BrAinPaiNt]

You bet I'm bummed Jones didn't hire Norv. It would have been epic.

As to bringing Snyder into the discussion already ... why? I was talking about Jones and what he's done with his team since firing one of the great personnel evaluator/head coaches of the modern era in Jimmy Johnson, for what appeared (from the outside at least) to be nothing more than ego. This latest move smacks of history repeating itself. I'm interested in hearing reasons why passionate Cowboy fans might see it otherwise.

I would think it is obvious why he brought it up.

You may have had honest questions, opinions and intentions in your questioning post.

But let's not pretend you did not want to throw some chum out there to work the sharks up into a frenzy.

By your own start you wanted to throw some grist for the mill.

So not really a shocker when you give slanted statements trying to give mosquito bites instead of bee stings that someone would reply as they did.

 

[kingwhicker]

• What must current Cowboy players be saying amongst themselves this morning? They’re not stupid–they have to be thinking this is an interim move (Phillips keeping the seat warm for Garrett) like the rest of the football world does. Are they likely to come to camp primed, pumped and ready to give body and soul to retread interim head coach Wade Phillips ... or are some of them going to be more like we used to be in high school when we found out the really strict regular teacher was out sick, and we had that one really mild, kinda quiet substitute in for the next couple weeks?

Is this what it's like in Washington considering they have an old, lame duck coach?

 

[rangers71]

I am pretty happy with this choice. Really he was my 1b chice with Riveria being 1a. He will fix the defense and I think between Jason and Sparano the offense will be fine. Hopefullly he can either bring in a new DC who know the system or teach Bowles. I am just happy it isn't Norv.