How Do We Feel About Positions Going into 2023 vs 2022?

[blueblood70]

In the line group...interchange and flex will always be available. You going to special skill opportunities or flex skills?

Gholston's original position was a defensive end and he got pushed inside because of numbers that's why I don't think they would go to the Fehoko before they would go back to Gholston.

 

[CCBoy]

Gholston's original position was a defensive end and he got pushed inside because of numbers that's why I don't think they would go to the Fehoko before they would go back to Gholston.

That is purely projecting...I went with an 'outside' source for a pecking order. It was referenced. That group is the highlight for production. Just watch and pay attention for who the 'heroes' are.

 

[blueblood70]

That is purely projecting...I went with an 'outside' source for a pecking order. It was referenced. That group is the highlight for production. Just watch and pay attention for who the 'heroes' are.

How the heck is some rookie who hasn't played a snap make it on your pecking order who would have referenced some dude who barely made the roster?? Truthfully many of us would have took Isaiah land over Fehoko. But as you know most teams are not cut bait with their first year rookies over an undrafted free agent but come on be honest I don't think fehoko going to see much time on the field.. I'm thinking like Dan Quinn and I'm thinking you would push golston back outside in a pinch over the rookie

 

[JD_KaPow]

There are only a few areas where the differences are more than at the margins.

WR: massive improvement. When we went into the season with last year was a travesty, and what we came out with wasn't much better. Lamb, Cooks, a healthy Gallup, a second-year Tolbert, that's a legitimate NFL WR corps.

CB: I was pretty optimistic about this group going into the season last year, but the Brown injury really exposed how unready the backups were. Gilmore should be a net gain but I'm still worried that the depth is smoke and mirrors.

RB: The things Zeke did really well will be missed. But he was just so bad as a normal-situation RB by the late season: it still blows me away that his last 50 rushes went for 100 yards. I think we won't have nearly as many wasted downs from the RBs, but we will pay a bit of a price in pass protection and short yardage efficiency. The shape of the performance will change more than the overall value, but I still think we're in better shape there.

LB & OL: Very very worried about depth in both these places. Last year, I thought it was better than it turned out to be. This year, I think it stinks from day one.

 

[CCBoy]

How the heck is some rookie who hasn't played a snap make it on your pecking order who would have referenced some dude who barely made the roster?? Truthfully many of us would have took Isaiah land over Fehoko

Time on job isn't the consideration, but skill and how that can be used. You commenting to say that he is only a rook, but doesn't have useable game abilities?

Take a look at the 5 secondary draft picks for KC that helped them win a Lombardi. You instead a scout as well as coach for the position. Oh, then I'll just start using you as the judge on the merit.

I just stated and explained positional relevance.

Neither of us can state who will be used how until that is shown. I used a referenced post for values being projected at present. Nothing written in stone. Using board talk as reference, won't handle what was projected.

The value presented stands as cause of my post. You want another player, hey, that is your deal.

The post stands on merit of that positional group. I'll just let you determine what your player game time will be. Here and now, bet you aren't close on even that as to use.

 

[Pass2Run]

LOL, just don't let her get her hands on that Kama Sutra book... it will be your medical insurance provider's worst nightmare.

Eastern Philosophies was my minor. Pretty funny man.

 

[shabazz]

Head to head, this team can play against San Francisco...both teams have to wear pads, helmets, and shoes. Just show up game day, Cowboys...you'll be fine.

well that simplifies things. Go with the same roster ( except rookie Mazi) and expect different results.

 

[DuncanIso]

OL depth and RB scrubs.

 

[shabazz]

I'm a year older but I can still play contortionist to get down with the missus.

they say it’s helpful with the plus size gals…..

 

[starfan1]

Answer this question. “ with the exception of the Mazi acquisition, how exactly have we gotten better than the Niners in the trenches on BOTH sides of the ball”?

Yes, the addition of Gilmore ,Cooks and Deuce at the skill positions will be a factor but have the lines been shore up adequately?

Take the homer caps off and explain because they have dominated it for years

This a concern of mine which was another reason I wasn’t happy with draft early on. I wanted a DT don’t get me wrong just not that soon

I wanted OL and RB early then DT . My hope is that bass and Richards turn out to be jewels cause the starting 5 will be compromised it has been annually

 

[CCBoy]

Time on job isn't the consideration, but skill and how that can be used. You commenting to say that he is only a rook, but doesn't have useable game abilities?

Take a look at the 5 secondary draft picks for KC that helped them win a Lombardi. You instead a scout as well as coach for the position. Oh, then I'll just start using you as the judge on the merit.

I just stated and explained positional relevance.

Neither of us can state who will be used how until that is shown. I used a referenced post for values being projected at present. Nothing written in stone. Using board talk as reference, won't handle what was projected.

The value presented stands as cause of my post. You want another player, hey, that is your deal.

The post stands on merit of that positional group. I'll just let you determine what your player game time will be. Here and now, bet you aren't close on even that as to use.

This reference was posted by myself on 09 05 23

Just where are you saying 'rook' will be then...which wasn't focus of my post?

 

[shabazz]

This a concern of mine which was another reason I wasn’t happy with draft early on. I wanted a DT don’t get me wrong just not that soon

I wanted OL and RB early then DT . My hope is that bass and Richards turn out to be jewels cause the starting 5 will be compromised it has been annually

Exactly. After the last 2 losses to the Niners to end our seasons, I thought we universally believed that the Boys were dominated in the trenches……. Now it suddenly seems to be a non-issue.

 

[noshame]

OL and the guy behind it. Possible weakness
Head coach and play caller will be biggest question/challenge/disaster.
Everything else contender ready

 

[CCBoy]

well that simplifies things. Go with the same roster ( except rookie Mazi) and expect different results.

That's a magicians view of things...keep up with all the contracts and new roster additions as well...I charge a fee for trap doors that fool no body. Care to argue further?

Simplified is even easier to mess up...huh?

 

[OGSixshooter]

I thought trading Amari for a 5th was a terrible idea and I think that was born out.
This year I think selecting Mazi instead of a guard/tackle was a mistake.

I think Mazi is going to be good in the long run, but this year he is going to struggle it's just a matter of how much.

I also wanted to say I thought taking Mazi was the right move at the time, because DT has been a need forever for this team; but now, I just think we could have gotten by with what we had. The kid they were thinking of taking over Mazi (Bergeron) is going to start for Atlanta.

Our depth at Oline is really hurt by the poor play of Ball and Waletzko, I know some people think Ball performed OK at guard, but I thought he was terrible at tackle when he played, now he is injured and not playing until later in the season I just think he is a waste of a roster spot. Waletzko can go too, always hurt, gets pushed around at guard and tackle, I don't think he is good enough to keep on the roster. As bad as Farniok played at guard he is at least serviceable at center, seeing him go also hurt the depth if for no other reason he was a serviceable if below average center/guard. The Cowboys Oline is not deep at all and while I have hope for Richards and Bass; I think that throwing them in early could hinder the team as a whole, but I think eventually they will be OK, I just wonder how long it is going to take. Last year though we didn't know what the Cowboys had in Tyler Smith and I think most of us were pleasantly surprised. Hopefully the rookies are able to handle the upcoming season, hopefully later than sooner.

The WR room is a whole lot better than last year, our second and third wide receivers were Dennis Houston and rookie Jalen Tolbert, Gallup was hurt and Washington (talk about a disappointing signing) also was injured. This year we have Cooks and Jalen looks to have taken a step, which was needed, Gallup is over a year removed from his ACL. So much better. Noah Brown is on the Texans popping balls into the air causing ints.

I liked our RB room better last year, but not by that much. Elliott was no longer explosive like early in his career, but he was tough and I loved that. I don't think this team has a downhill runner like him, but the Cowboys probably have better pieces. Deuce will be exciting and I think they have a role in mind for Luepke. Dowdle needs to stay healthy, he might be a diamond, but if he can't stay on the field he will be gone. Pollard should be about what he was last year, I think the Cowboys will be OK at RB with Tony.

TE maybe a little more exciting. Ferguson is ready, Schoon is a tough blocking machine and Hendershot, well is Hendershot, I'm not that impressed with him I'll be honest, he needs to be able to catch the ball better and block better, I thought Stephens offered more, but since Stephens is hurt I don't mind Hendershot on the roster that much, McKeon is on the PS and if necessary he can have a role later in the year depending on injuries.

I have anxiety over LB's this year, Vander Esch is an injury waiting to happen, Clark (hurt most of last year) looked lost last year and the only other LB on this roster is Harper (played three games last year). I like Clark and Harper don't get me wrong, but I would have liked to get more depth. I understand why they didn't though because those three will be rotating between Middle and Weak side while Kearse Bell and Wilson will be probably playing strong side, dipping into the safety depth, the Cowboys will be going long on safety this year where they are very deep.

I like the secondary, much better than last year, but there is not too much depth behind Gilmore and Trevon. I like Bland, but he did make some mistakes in Pre-season on the outside this year, beyond him not convinced about Noah Igbinoghene or Wright. If Eric Scott is playing multiple minutes at CB then something went really wrong in the secondary. My criticisms are a little nitpicky because it was obvious that Anthony just wasn't very good anymore, he really wasn't ever that good to begin with, I liked his fight, but this team needed to move away from him. I'm not happy he go injured, but the Cowboys needed to move on.

On the DL, I wonder if they still have the juice that they had last year, will they be able to play with the same intensity as they did at the beginning of the season last year? Will they be able to dominate games like they did at points last year? How much does Lawrence, Fowler and Armstrong have left? Can Golston and Osa take the next step, can Sam stop being a knucklehead and play to his talent level? So many question for the DL this year. If they can play like last year than I think the Cowboys at the very least win the division.

I would like to see Lance play some if possible. I thought Rush played fantastic when called upon, it's just about all you can ask for from your back-up QB. Dak, Dak, DAK, STOP throwing over the middle on 3rd and long PLEASE!

Really good post, well written.

 

[starfan1]

Exactly. After the last 2 losses to the Niners to end our seasons, I thought we universally believed that the Boys were dominated in the trenches……. Now it suddenly seems to be a non-issue.

Those of us who understand football believe that. Some are more directed at QB

While I don’t believe he is without fault the trenches are and we’re an issue that we were outmanned in.

The teams we need to get by have much better trenches

Jerry’s solution was a TE in round 2 but I don’t want to argue with those that love that pick I’m in wait and see mode

Go cowboys

 

[JD_KaPow]

100% wrong on Amari Cooper, $22 million for a backup wr2 was far too much

Imagine thinking a 78/1160/9 guy is a backup WR2.

 

[shabazz]

That's a magicians view of things...keep up with all the contracts and new roster additions as well...I charge a fee for trap doors that fool no body. Care to argue further?

Simplified is even easier to mess up...huh?

No argument from me. I don’t try to change minds…..just opine and move on.

 

[blueblood70]

Imagine thinking a 78/1160/9 guy is a backup WR2.

Yes because if he was the number two here his numbers wouldn't be that that's what I'm talking about he would not have been the number one here he would have not had the opportunity to put those numbers up and that's why we got rid of him... So imagine a families to stop imagining what he did as the the 1.. So yes as the #2 HERE he no longer was fit ..CD took his job..thats how it worked out. You can't project his starter #s to his wr2 . 22mil was too much HERE, got it.. move ON ..his 2021 campaign says he was a 2 HERE! I do not have to imagine when I saw it myself.CD took the #1 spot younger cheaper and healthier at the time

68 68

865 865

12.7 12.7

41 41

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[JD_KaPow]

Yes because if he was the number two here his numbers wouldn't be that that's what I'm talking about he would not have been the number one here he would have not had the opportunity to put those numbers up and that's why we got rid of him... So imagine a families to stop imagining what he did as the the 1.. So yes as the #2 HERE he no longer was fit ..CD took his job..thats how it worked out. You can't project his starter #s to his wr2 . 22mil was too much HERE, got it.. move ON ..his 2021 campaign says he was a 2 HERE! I do not have to imagine when I saw it myself.CD took the #1 spot younger cheaper and healthier at the time

68 68

865 865

12.7 12.7

41 41

8

You called him a "backup WR2," whatever that is. And he put up the numbers you listed in only 14 games in 2021. It doesn't matter if he would be the #1 or #2 receiver here, we put at least two receivers on the field for every snap, and you can't put too much talent on the field. But sure, Noah Brown was a perfectly fine replacement.