How do you build around 3 players making up 50% of Cap?

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I’ll be surprised if we’re able to re-sign all three players. The longer this goes with Dak the more it’s looking like he’ll be the odd man out. He’s the oldest of the three and by far the highest priced. The Cowboys may have already made their best offer to him. Stephen said the other day it’s up to Dak.
 

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8 of the 11 Eagles starting offensive players are top 10 top (several top 5) paid at their positions…yet Jerry has somehow convinced his fans it’s impossible to sign 3 guys. I can’t decide if it’s more impressive for Jerry, or just sad how many people believe him.
 

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I’ll be surprised if we’re able to re-sign all three players. The longer this goes with Dak the more it’s looking like he’ll be the odd man out. He’s the oldest of the three and by far the highest priced. The Cowboys may have already made their best offer to him. Stephen said the other day it’s up to Dak.
So why do you think Dak has not responded? Because of money?

Dak has a few good years left and he is a good QB. CD Lamb is good also, but his "I want the bag and TD's" he can go somewhere else that has a good QB that will pay him. He seems like another greedy dude. And Micha is going to turn out the same way. These two guys are really not needed at their cost.

If I were the GM, I would look around the league and see what kind of draft picks I could get for CD and Parsons and keep Dak and pay him first. He is a top 10 or so QB. That's my plan and I'm sticking to it.

Ship CD and Parsons off to some other team that will pay them what they want.
 

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So why do you think Dak has not responded? Because of money?

Dak has a few good years left and he is a good QB. CD Lamb is good also, but his "I want the bag and TD's" he can go somewhere else that has a good QB that will pay him. He seems like another greedy dude. And Micha is going to turn out the same way. These two guys are really not needed at their cost.

If I were the GM, I would look around the league and see what kind of draft picks I could get for CD and Parsons and keep Dak and pay him first. He is a top 10 or so QB. That's my plan and I'm sticking to it.

Ship CD and Parsons off to some other team that will pay them what they want.
Knowing Jerry Jones is reluctant to sign them to current market value deals, and knowing they’re going to be expensive to sign, do you think that enhances their trade value or diminishes it? Other teams have real GMs. They are more shrewd than Jerry Jones. Knowing he won’t sign them makes him vulnerable to be taken advantage of in trade negotiations. Lamb would bring a late first. Parsons, at best, a second round pick. There could be the assumption that the Cowboys are most familiar with the two of them and obviously don’t think they’re worth paying. Because they don’t want to pay them. That’s not going to make any of the other 31 teams give them a high value.
 

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So why do you think Dak has not responded? Because of money?

Dak has a few good years left and he is a good QB. CD Lamb is good also, but his "I want the bag and TD's" he can go somewhere else that has a good QB that will pay him. He seems like another greedy dude. And Micha is going to turn out the same way. These two guys are really not needed at their cost.

If I were the GM, I would look around the league and see what kind of draft picks I could get for CD and Parsons and keep Dak and pay him first. He is a top 10 or so QB. That's my plan and I'm sticking to it.

Ship CD and Parsons off to some other team that will pay them what they want.
If they do that, they should trade Lamb for a 1st and 3rd to the Jets. Just to annoy the Dolphins and Bills. Then trade Parsons to the Rams for 2 first rounders. Just to annoy the 49ers.
 

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Knowing Jerry Jones is reluctant to sign them to current market value deals, and knowing they’re going to be expensive to sign, do you think that enhances their trade value or diminishes it? Other teams have real GMs. They are more shrewd than Jerry Jones. Knowing he won’t sign them makes him vulnerable to be taken advantage of in trade negotiations. Lamb would bring a late first. Parsons, at best, a second round pick. There could be the assumption that the Cowboys are most familiar with the two of them and obviously don’t think they’re worth paying. Because they don’t want to pay them. That’s not going to make any of the other 31 teams give them a high value.
Parsons a 2nd round pick? Players with a 2nd round trade value do not have a market value of over 30M. Not a single one in the entire league.
 

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Parsons a 2nd round pick? Players with a 2nd round trade value do not have a market value of over 30M. Not a single one in the entire league.
Which is why Parsons has not been offered a $30 million per season extension from the Cowboys. They apparently know he’s not worth it. And they ought to know.
 

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Which is why Parsons has not been offered a $30 million per season extension from the Cowboys. They apparently know he’s not worth it. And they ought to know.
Cowboys don't give their first round picks an extension after 3 years. I can't remember the last time they did that.
 

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Knowing Jerry Jones is reluctant to sign them to current market value deals, and knowing they’re going to be expensive to sign, do you think that enhances their trade value or diminishes it? Other teams have real GMs. They are more shrewd than Jerry Jones. Knowing he won’t sign them makes him vulnerable to be taken advantage of in trade negotiations. Lamb would bring a late first. Parsons, at best, a second round pick. There could be the assumption that the Cowboys are most familiar with the two of them and obviously don’t think they’re worth paying. Because they don’t want to pay them. That’s not going to make any of the other 31 teams give them a high value.
Do you seriously believe the Cowboys count only get a second round pick at best? Misprint right?
 

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Do you seriously believe the Cowboys count only get a second round pick at best? Misprint right?
If he was worth multiple picks and/or worth more than $30 million per season a team would have to assume there’s a reason the Cowboys want to trade him and/or don’t think he’s worth $30 million per season. And the Cowboys should know what he’s worth. Wanting to trade a player because you don’t think he’s worth what he wants should, and will, give a team pause if they have an interest in acquiring him. Didn’t the Eagles unload their top edge rusher, a very effective one, for a 3rd when he indicated he wanted $28 million? These guys are not worth as much as they think. Apparently Micah isn’t worth $30 million to the Cowboys. He’s eligible for an extension now. Now would be the time to sign him. The extension would not become effective until his current deal is over after the 2025 season. Yet the Cowboys don’t extend him. It’s not going to get less expensive. And you think some team is going to give up important draft assets to acquire a guy his own team isn’t signing? A 2nd at best.
 

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If he was worth multiple picks and/or worth more than $30 million per season a team would have to assume there’s a reason the Cowboys want to trade him and/or don’t think he’s worth $30 million per season. And the Cowboys should know what he’s worth. Wanting to trade a player because you don’t think he’s worth what he wants should, and will, give a team pause if they have an interest in acquiring him. Didn’t the Eagles unload their top edge rusher, a very effective one, for a 3rd when he indicated he wanted $28 million? These guys are not worth as much as they think. Apparently Micah isn’t worth $30 million to the Cowboys. He’s eligible for an extension now. Now would be the time to sign him. The extension would not become effective until his current deal is over after the 2025 season. Yet the Cowboys don’t extend him. It’s not going to get less expensive. And you think some team is going to give up important draft assets to acquire a guy his own team isn’t signing? A 2nd at best.
I respect your opinion but he’d easily get a 1st round pick and probably a 2nd or 3rd as well.
 

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Do you seriously believe the Cowboys count only get a second round pick at best? Misprint right?
No. I believe I've seen that same opinion from him at a different time. Parsons is going to get 30M+ a year. If not by us, then by someone else. That's not second round trade value.
 

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No. I believe I've seen that same opinion from him at a different time. Parsons is going to get 30M+ a year. If not by us, then by someone else. That's not second round trade value.
It’s bizarre some of the things you read here.
 

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It’s bizarre some of the things you read here.
I think he gets two first round picks. He wouldn't even be a household name if he was a 2nd round talent. The guy from the Eagles is 30 years old. Besides, the Cowboys don't give their first round picks extensions after 3 years. I don't know why. The last time was Zeke, but he held out for it.

Besides, even if the Cowboys wanted to sign him now, they really can't. Imagine signing all 3 big names the same year? It's always best to stagger giant contracts.
 

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I respect your opinion but he’d easily get a 1st round pick and probably a 2nd or 3rd as well.
More than ever 1st round draft picks are necessary to acquire decent talent with a modicum of cost control. It can give a team the option of keeping a player they otherwise may not be able to afford. The escalating cost of top players, particularly quarterbacks, make 1st round picks even more critical. As of now no team has traded a first round pick in any upcoming draft. Very few 2nd rounders have been traded. Only two in 2025. Giving up the benefit of cost control to acquire a player that will immediately have to be signed to a “market setting” or even just “market appropriate“ contract works against the acquiring team in two ways. You see the contending teams are all having to make decisions on who they can retain and who they can’t. The cap means you can’t pay everybody. So you depend on the portion of your roster that are on rookie deals. The Cowboys philosophy of “we can’t pay anybody” is just poor management. The Cowboys recent success is an example of players on rookie deals making significant contribution. They draft well. Now it’s time to pay the stars or make the difficult decision to move them. The bad parts is that now, because quarterback and wide receivers are demanding and getting unprecedented compensation, edge rushers are seeking same, some getting it, early draft picks are more valuable than ever. I don’t see a team willing, and most even able, to part with a first for Parsons or anyone else. The value of first round picks, and even 2nds now, is the part of the fallout from the salary cap that isn’t talked about. Those picks are the counter balance to the massive contracts teams are having to pay to two or three of their top players. A 2nd, at best.
 

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Not anymore.
Thats completely false.

Brian Burns just went for 3 picks including a 2nd rounder just this offseason after he had been franchised tagged and signed a massive extension. This also happened right before the draft when picks are at their highest value.

Other recent NFL trades...

Chase Young a 3rd rounder
Sweat went for a 2nd rounder
Leonard Williams went for a 2nd and 5th rounder
Aaron Rodgers netted two 2nd rounders
Darren Waller a 3rd rounder
Sean Payton a 1st rounder
Calvin Ridley a 3rd and 5th
Chase Claypool a 2nd rounder
TJ Hockenson a 2nd rounder
Roquan Smith a 2nd rounder + 5th rounder + a player
Kadarius Toney a 3rd and 6th rounder
Christian McCaffrey a 2nd, 3rd, 4th, and 5th rounder
Deshaun Watson (3) 1st round picks + 3rd round, (2) 4th rounders
Devante Adams a 1st and 2nd rounder
Russell Wilson 3 players, 2 1sts and 2 2nd rounders
Khalil Mack a 2nd and 5th

Yet you believe that the best pass rusher in football who still has multiple years on control would only get you a 2nd rounder? The market is always fluctuating, but there is zero chance 2nd round draft picks got that valuable overnight.
 
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