How does Romo still manage to keep this same attitude...After everything?

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I may be stubborn and i may be wrong, but its games like the buffalo game that showed me his competitiveness even through hardships. It's the games he's had versus the likes of peyton manning (yes with parcels) where he drove us to the finish line against the to be super bowl champs. The long touch downs to owens and austin. His bonehead , street ball plays that let us live another play. It's coaching he lacks, one can only pray that someone out in that staff will step up and coach him.
 

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Jon88;2546741 said:
We've all heard or read this from his press conference after the 44-6 beating to the Eagles:

"I wake up tomorrow and keep living. You don’t [deal with it]. You just keep playing the game. It’s a fun game, and it’s enjoyable. We’re going to try to win next year. We’re going to try to get back in the playoffs, and we’re going to try to win a Super Bowl.

"If you don’t, OK. If you do, OK. Then you’re really a great player. If you don’t, you’re just a solid, good player, and I’ll have to deal with that, not you guys. That’s just part of the job.

"I’ve had a lot worse things happen to me than a loss in a sporting event, that’s for sure. If this is the worst thing that ever happens to me, then I’ll have lived a pretty good life."


This is a great philosophy to have, but this historic loss does come after his botched snap ended our season two years ago, a horrible showing a year ago in Dallas that resulted in another stinging exit, and now this is Philadelphia. It seems to me that the current approach the takes to the game isn't working, but it seems like he doesn't really mind. He still gets paid, he considers himself "solid," and he's "lived a pretty good life." This laid back attitude needs to go if he wants to start winng games that really count. That is the point, right? If he doesn't start taking this $60 million plus job any more seriously, then it's time to look for someone else.

i havent said it before because people will be upset by by what i think is going on with romo:

let me preface my comments by saying that i think, romo has lot of talent, i really believe that we can win a SB (or more than 1) with him if he has the right coach.

the reason is psychology 101

romo is not a natural leader, he has an inferiority complex, he himself does not believe that he can do it but he does not want to face that reality. this whole "aw shucks" persona, "its only a game" is his way of side stepping this issue. hence his whole "the interception was as good as a punt" comment and "if this is the worst that happens to me in life then I will have lived a great life" comments. he dosent want to be in a position where he knows he gave it his all and still failed, he always wants to have that "out" that I wasnt trying hard enough, that "this is just fun". if anyone has a MNF game recorded, look at the "team introduction" part, all the other players look straight into the camera, romo is looking around, not at the camera. he dosent believe in himself, how can others believe in him?

people like this respond to positive reinforcement and not to negative reinforcement ie the more you criticize them the more they go into a shell and become defensive about his faults. this is why he hangs his head when something negative happens, look at his whole body language. the more you "build them up" the better they will do. BP was perfect for him because he know how to press his buttons, give him just enough but keep his foot on the breaks as well.

to do his best, he needs teammates like witten who feed into that and believe in him, the last thing he needs is a teammate like TO who is a complainer. the problem is he is too much of a "wuss" to take on a strong personality like TO but internally he does not want to have to deal with him.

this is where a strong coach would be invaluable, to lay down the law and keep people like TO in line so romo's weakness (lack of leadership) is not as obvious. when the QB and coach dont provide leadership, someone will fill that void, unfortunately for us it is people like TO, crayton, james. unfortunately we are stuck with the pillsbury dough boy. he needs a "father figure" as a coach with "tough love" not a weak person like WP.

this is why he plays his best when it counts but not really, he played better early on when we were playing as a team. this is why i think it will be really difficult to win it all with the current cast of characters and the current coaching staff. we may win some games but when the chips are down, this stuff will show up and he will buckle under pressure unless he has the right team mates and the right coach.

just my .02
 

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Well guys it's nice hearing everyones comments and opinions. It wouldnt be interesting if we all thought the same. Im not here to defend someone that stunk it up in crucial games. Im just here to say that he's a fighter and we shouldnt judged his heart and passion by press conferences. I hope everyone has a prosperous new year, and lets hope our cowboys come out swinging next september.
 

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visionary;2546827 said:
i havent said it before because people will be upset by by what i think is going on with romo:

let me preface my comments by saying that i think, romo has lot of talent, i really believe that we can win a SB (or more than 1) with him if he has the right coach.

the reason is psychology 101

romo is not a natural leader, he has an inferiority complex, he himself does not believe that he can do it but he does not want to face that reality. this whole "aw shucks" persona, "its only a game" is his way of side stepping this issue. hence his whole "the interception was as good as a punt" comment and "if this is the worst that happens to me in life then I will have lived a great life" comments. he dosent want to be in a position where he knows he gave it his all and still failed, he always wants to have that "out" that I wasnt trying hard enough, that "this is just fun". if anyone has a MNF game recorded, look at the "team introduction" part, all the other players look straight into the camera, romo is looking around, not at the camera. he dosent believe in himself, how can others believe in him?

people like this respond to positive reinforcement and not to negative reinforcement ie the more you criticize them the more they go into a shell and become defensive about his faults. this is why he hangs his head when something negative happens, look at his whole body language. the more you "build them up" the better they will do. BP was perfect for him because he know how to press his buttons, give him just enough but keep his foot on the breaks as well.

to do his best, he needs teammates like witten who feed into that and believe in him, the last thing he needs is a teammate like TO who is a complainer. the problem is he is too much of a "wuss" to take on a strong personality like TO but internally he does not want to have to deal with him.

this is where a strong coach would be invaluable, to lay down the law and keep people like TO in line so romo's weakness (lack of leadership) is not as obvious. when the QB and coach dont provide leadership, someone will fill that void, unfortunately for us it is people like TO, crayton, james. unfortunately we are stuck with the pillsbury dough boy. he needs a "father figure" as a coach with "tough love" not a weak person like WP.

this is why he plays his best when it counts but not really, he played better early on when we were playing as a team. this is why i think it will be really difficult to win it all with the current cast of characters and the current coaching staff. we may win some games but when the chips are down, this stuff will show up and he will buckle under pressure unless he has the right team mates and the right coach.

just my .02


I think that's a good analysis. Just duck for the people who think Romo could go out and murder someone and still not do enough wrong.
 

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Jon88;2546833 said:
I think that's a good analysis. Just duck for the people who think Romo could go out and murder someone and still not do enough wrong.

jon, i am a diehard cowboys fan.
i think romo is a very good QB who with the right coaching can be a great one.
i am just not willing to close my eyes and say "everything will be OK" when my house is burning down around me.
there are reasons why "the most talented team in the NFL" cant make the playoffs and is completely embarrassed in the most important game of the year and denying those reasons will not make them go away.
 

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visionary;2546844 said:
jon, i am a diehard cowboys fan.
i think romo is a very good QB who with the right coaching can be a great one.
i am just not willing to close my eyes and say "everything will be OK" when my house is burning down around me.
there are reasons why "the most talented team in the NFL" cant make the playoffs and is completely embarrassed in the most important game of the year and denying those reasons will not make them go away.

I agree. This team needs a lot of changes. That means changing personnel (Tank, Bobby Carpenter, Roy Williams #38, Isiah Stanback) and changing how a lot of the personel approach the game.
 

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What did Michael Irvin say on his HOF speech that subsequently ended up in the new stadium paver we bought here?

"Don't tell me it's just a game".

Irvin was obsessed with winning,it consumed every fiber of his being.Losing was not acceptable,he hated losing with blood boiling seething rage.
That is what separate champions from chumps.

Winning isn't everything,it's the ONLY thing.
 

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Everyone needs to make up their mind how they would like Romo to behave.

All I have seen is either he's too morose or sullen after a mistake or he's too cavalier after it.
 

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visionary;2546827 said:
i havent said it before because people will be upset by by what i think is going on with romo:

let me preface my comments by saying that i think, romo has lot of talent, i really believe that we can win a SB (or more than 1) with him if he has the right coach.

the reason is psychology 101

romo is not a natural leader, he has an inferiority complex, he himself does not believe that he can do it but he does not want to face that reality. this whole "aw shucks" persona, "its only a game" is his way of side stepping this issue. hence his whole "the interception was as good as a punt" comment and "if this is the worst that happens to me in life then I will have lived a great life" comments. he dosent want to be in a position where he knows he gave it his all and still failed, he always wants to have that "out" that I wasnt trying hard enough, that "this is just fun". if anyone has a MNF game recorded, look at the "team introduction" part, all the other players look straight into the camera, romo is looking around, not at the camera. he dosent believe in himself, how can others believe in him?

people like this respond to positive reinforcement and not to negative reinforcement ie the more you criticize them the more they go into a shell and become defensive about his faults. this is why he hangs his head when something negative happens, look at his whole body language. the more you "build them up" the better they will do. BP was perfect for him because he know how to press his buttons, give him just enough but keep his foot on the breaks as well.

to do his best, he needs teammates like witten who feed into that and believe in him, the last thing he needs is a teammate like TO who is a complainer. the problem is he is too much of a "wuss" to take on a strong personality like TO but internally he does not want to have to deal with him.

this is where a strong coach would be invaluable, to lay down the law and keep people like TO in line so romo's weakness (lack of leadership) is not as obvious. when the QB and coach dont provide leadership, someone will fill that void, unfortunately for us it is people like TO, crayton, james. unfortunately we are stuck with the pillsbury dough boy. he needs a "father figure" as a coach with "tough love" not a weak person like WP.

this is why he plays his best when it counts but not really, he played better early on when we were playing as a team. this is why i think it will be really difficult to win it all with the current cast of characters and the current coaching staff. we may win some games but when the chips are down, this stuff will show up and he will buckle under pressure unless he has the right team mates and the right coach.

just my .02
Very well thought out post! and its something ive thought about Romo for some time the main thing being that i dont think he has any interest in being a leader.
 

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That sounds like a guy that is just happy to be getting paid. Plus He doesnt care, he has a hot Girlfriend He gets to bang hen ever he wants. I'm so sick of this attitude.
 

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DallasDomination;2546875 said:
That sounds like a guy that is just happy to be getting paid. Plus He doesnt care, he has a hot Girlfriend He gets to bang hen ever he wants. I'm so sick of this attitude.


That's Romo to a T.
 

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Alexander;2546860 said:
Everyone needs to make up their mind how they would like Romo to behave.

All I have seen is either he's too morose or sullen after a mistake or he's too cavalier after it.

If/when he matures and gains more self-confidence, you won't see either reaction nearly as much. You'll still see the knee jerk reactions everybody has after a mistake (usually obscenities), but you won't see him hanging his head with that "woe is me" look on the sidelines, or see him try to deny that it's important.

He'll just move on and try to correct whatever went wrong.

Blame it on whatever you want, but Romo did not look like a confident quarterback for much of this season.

And I have no doubt that his success and the success of this team matters very much to him.

BTW, if they develop a more consistent running game, that will help his confidence a lot more than getting rid of or shutting up TO. That will make it a lot easier for him to succeed and take some of the pressure off as well.
 

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DallasDomination;2546875 said:
That sounds like a guy that is just happy to be getting paid. Plus He doesnt care, he has a hot Girlfriend He gets to bang hen ever he wants. I'm so sick of this attitude.

Please don't mention Jessica. You'll get lambasted like I was back when I pointed out how some of his shortcomings all ties together and included Jessica's Hollywood influence in the conversation. :)

For the record, I share your exact opinion.
 

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Romo's attitude reminds me of the attitude of Roy Williams(bambi)
 

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He was just trying not to feed into the negative vibe that was already enormous. Kind of like what many people do after a really bad experience. Do you seriously not think that this guy was hurting beyond belief? Knowing that he has to endure another year of scathing criticism and doubt.
Don't most of you say "Actions speak louder than words"? Well if that's the case (which I believe), then watch him play with his chin bleeding all over the place, or try to play with an injured thumb on his throwing hand, or watch him try to play through a broken finger at the end of the Cards game, or try to come back with a fresh break in his throwing hand the next week (wisely that was stopped), or watch him get crushed repeatedly by the Giants then hobble around to a heroic victory in a very important game at the time (check out Eli's stats in that game when HE was under consistent pressure). If winning didn't matter so much to him, wouldn't he have just sat it out since he could barely walk? I trust my eyes a hell of a lot more than a brief quote from a guy in physical and emotional agony after a brutal loss. Romo is not our problem. This guy has heart and he wants to win. Eli was a pariah who led the league in turnovers 'til things fell his way (thanks again Crayton and Fasano, and even you Asante Samuel)). Romo's story is far from over. He made some mistakes, but any QB would have fared poorly this past December with that lack of protection.
 

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BIGDen;2547057 said:
He was just trying not to feed into the negative vibe that was already enormous. Kind of like what many people do after a really bad experience. Do you seriously not think that this guy was hurting beyond belief? Knowing that he has to endure another year of scathing criticism and doubt.
Don't most of you say "Actions speak louder than words"? Well if that's the case (which I believe), then watch him play with his chin bleeding all over the place, or try to play with an injured thumb on his throwing hand, or watch him try to play through a broken finger at the end of the Cards game, or try to come back with a fresh break in his throwing hand the next week (wisely that was stopped), or watch him get crushed repeatedly by the Giants then hobble around to a heroic victory in a very important game at the time (check out Eli's stats in that game when HE was under consistent pressure). If winning didn't matter so much to him, wouldn't he have just sat it out since he could barely walk? I trust my eyes a hell of a lot more than a brief quote from a guy in physical and emotional agony after a brutal loss. Romo is not our problem. This guy has heart and he wants to win. Eli was a pariah who led the league in turnovers 'til things fell his way (thanks again Crayton and Fasano, and even you Asante Samuel)). Romo's story is far from over. He made some mistakes, but any QB would have fared poorly this past December with that lack of protection.

:hammer:
 

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BIGDen;2547057 said:
He was just trying not to feed into the negative vibe that was already enormous. Kind of like what many people do after a really bad experience. Do you seriously not think that this guy was hurting beyond belief? Knowing that he has to endure another year of scathing criticism and doubt.
Don't most of you say "Actions speak louder than words"? Well if that's the case (which I believe), then watch him play with his chin bleeding all over the place, or try to play with an injured thumb on his throwing hand, or watch him try to play through a broken finger at the end of the Cards game, or try to come back with a fresh break in his throwing hand the next week (wisely that was stopped), or watch him get crushed repeatedly by the Giants then hobble around to a heroic victory in a very important game at the time (check out Eli's stats in that game when HE was under consistent pressure). If winning didn't matter so much to him, wouldn't he have just sat it out since he could barely walk? I trust my eyes a hell of a lot more than a brief quote from a guy in physical and emotional agony after a brutal loss. Romo is not our problem. This guy has heart and he wants to win. Eli was a pariah who led the league in turnovers 'til things fell his way (thanks again Crayton and Fasano, and even you Asante Samuel)). Romo's story is far from over. He made some mistakes, but any QB would have fared poorly this past December with that lack of protection.


If I could find a cartoon that shows a hammer missing a nail, I would. Since I can't, I will just say, you missed the nail.
 

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LOL! Gosh some of the people around these forums are just plain stupid.

There is not a single one of you that takes your job so seriously that you'd spend days and days and days crying over something not going the way you hoped, or not being the best at your job on that given day.

Every single person who has a bad day at work goes home, drinks a beer, or water, or whatever anyone drinks, reflects on it a bit, relaxes, and then doesn't worry about it anymore. You start thinking about how to do better next time and you go on about your business.

But Tony? HA. THe guy doesn't take football as the measure of life and death and that makes him a bad person. That's hilarious.


What would truly be pathetic is if anyone who plays a sport looks at it as the ultimate measure of their lives. If winning and losing are the most important things that they ever have happen in their lives then they are truly the most pathetic.


It's a game and as nice as being a Superbowl champion would be if people measure their entire life, and what it's worth, based on that then they've got MAJOR issues.
 
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