How long should McCarthy get?

[blueblood70]

3 more years

 

[basel90]

Regardless , the Cowboys haven’t figured it out. Not yet . Not even for a mini run.

Most franchises have for at least one or two years. We are one of only a handful of franchises without at least a championship appearance in cap era .

very true. The strategy has failed . Jerry keeps saying the team should have won and luck and refereeing were an issue. But these excuses are crazy after missing even a CCG appearance in 27 years !! simply put, jerry thought he can overpower teams with offense and forgot about the defense for decades. Now we have a great defense and he still has a QB that is average to good but bad against good defenses, Which is a fatal flaw. The coach is nothing special and cannot be the differnce maker here.
If Dak fails to shine and lead this loaded team to the CCG at least ,then it will be a while for 81 year old jerry before he gets another chance to hoist the lombardi. This games in this era starts with a great QB.

 

[Diehardblues]

very true. The strategy has failed . Jerry keeps saying the team should have won and luck and refereeing were an issue. But these excuses are crazy after missing even a CCG appearance in 27 years !! simply put, jerry thought he can overpower teams with offense and forgot about the defense for decades. Now we have a great defense and he still has a QB that is average to good but bad against good defenses, Which is a fatal flaw. The coach is nothing special and cannot be the differnce maker here.
If Dak fails to shine and lead this loaded team to the CCG at least ,then it will be a while for 81 year old jerry before he gets another chance to hoist the lombardi. This games in this era starts with a great QB.

Unfortunately there aren’t enough Elite QB’s to go around to 32 teams. Most of the league have to build around an average to good QB.

Unfortunately in the playoffs we’ll probably eventually face a better QB and or defense.

I’m not sure based on what we’ve seen in playoffs in recent years we have higher expectations. We are what we are. A pretty good team with some talent in key positions.

But rarely do we see teams winning championships without an Elite QB and or defense. And why 12-5 and 1-1 in playoffs might be as good as it gets.

I do agree this team might be about as good as it gets with Jethro but it doesn’t mean there aren’t better teams out there.

 

[basel90]

Unfortunately there aren’t enough Elite QB’s to go around to 32 teams. Most of the league have to build around an average to good QB.

Unfortunately in the playoffs we’ll probably eventually face a better QB and or defense.

I’m not sure based on what we’ve seen in playoffs in recent years we have higher expectations. We are what we are. A pretty good team with some talent in key positions.

But rarely do we see teams winning championships without an Elite QB and or defense. And why 12-5 and 1-1 in playoffs might be as good as it gets.

I do agree this team might be about as good as it gets with Jethro but it doesn’t mean there aren’t better teams out there.

agree, but after seeing what dak can and cannot do in 7 years. isn't it prudent to have alternatives and not dedicate 50 mil a season to a good to average QB that folds in the playoffs ? a QB either has it or does not .

 

[Diehardblues]

agree, but after seeing what dak can and cannot do in 7 years. isn't it prudent to have alternatives and not dedicate 50 mil a season to a good to average QB that folds in the playoffs ? a QB either has it or does not .

But he has enough to keep the train rolling for Jethro. Which appears to be worth more than risking getting better.

 

[Rockport]

I personally dont like change for change sake. Now that Reid has wona couple of titles since he has his wonderboy, everyone declares him a master... yet he was ran out of philly.

So here is a list of the drought for each team:

Team	Years	Start Year	Drought Start
Arizona Cardinals	75	1948	Won 1947 NFLC
Detroit Lions	65	1958	Won 1957 NFLC
Minnesota Vikings	62	1961	Joined NFL
Cleveland Browns	58	1965	Won 1964 NFLC
Los Angeles Chargers	57	1966	Joined NFL
Buffalo Bills	57	1966	Joined NFL
Tennessee Titans	57	1966	Joined NFL
Atlanta Falcons	57	1966	Joined NFL
Cincinnati Bengals	55	1968	Joined NFL
New York Jets	54	1969	Won 1968 SB
Miami Dolphins	49	1974	Won 1973 SB
Las Vegas Raiders	39	1984	Won 1983 SB
Chicago Bears	37	1986	Won 1985 SB
Washington Commanders	31	1992	Won 1991 SB
Jacksonville Jaguars	28	1995	Joined NFL
Carolina Panthers	28	1995	Joined NFL
San Francisco 49ers	28	1995	Won 1994 SB
Dallas Cowboys	27	1996	Won 1995 SB
Houston Texans	21	2002	Joined NFL
Indianapolis Colts	16	2007	Won 2006 SB
Pittsburgh Steelers	14	2009	Won 2008 SB
New Orleans Saints	13	2010	Won 2009 SB
Green Bay Packers	12	2011	Won 2010 SB
New York Giants	11	2012	Won 2011 SB
Baltimore Ravens	10	2013	Won 2012 SB
Seattle Seahawks	9	2014	Won 2013 SB
Denver Broncos	7	2016	Won 2015 SB
Philadelphia Eagles	5	2018	Won 2017 SB
New England Patriots	4	2019	Won 2018 SB
Tampa Bay Buccaneers	2	2021	Won 2020 SB
Los Angeles Rams	1	2022	Won 2021 SB

17 teams have gone longer than the Cowboys without a title and 25 of the 32 teams have gone 10 years or more without a title. So it begs the question. How long does a coach get to win a title before he should be booted? A coach that has a team in the playoffs consistently doesnt forget how to coach. How many years has the great Sean Peyton been coaching? yet he only has one title.

So how many years should Mike get before he is fired? or any coach for that matter?

Jeez the season hasn’t even started and the yahoos are already calling for MM’s head. 2 days before the season.

 

[basel90]

But he has enough to keep the train rolling for Jethro. Which appears to be worth more than risking getting better.

agree. it is business as ussual with jerry

 

[Buzzbait]

the old guys havent figured that put yet. they still think they are living in the Landry years and playing at the Cotton Bowl and sodas and a hot dog cost you 85 cents.

Be careful now, I'm one of those old guys!
That was the good old days, when you built a great team it lasted for more than 1 or 2 seasons! You got used to seeing your favorite players and they stuck around for a few years.
I hate the salary cap and that parity garbage but you were right, the cap years were a totally different world unfortunately.

 

[Whirlwin]

I personally dont like change for change sake. Now that Reid has wona couple of titles since he has his wonderboy, everyone declares him a master... yet he was ran out of philly.

So here is a list of the drought for each team:

Team	Years	Start Year	Drought Start
Arizona Cardinals	75	1948	Won 1947 NFLC
Detroit Lions	65	1958	Won 1957 NFLC
Minnesota Vikings	62	1961	Joined NFL
Cleveland Browns	58	1965	Won 1964 NFLC
Los Angeles Chargers	57	1966	Joined NFL
Buffalo Bills	57	1966	Joined NFL
Tennessee Titans	57	1966	Joined NFL
Atlanta Falcons	57	1966	Joined NFL
Cincinnati Bengals	55	1968	Joined NFL
New York Jets	54	1969	Won 1968 SB
Miami Dolphins	49	1974	Won 1973 SB
Las Vegas Raiders	39	1984	Won 1983 SB
Chicago Bears	37	1986	Won 1985 SB
Washington Commanders	31	1992	Won 1991 SB
Jacksonville Jaguars	28	1995	Joined NFL
Carolina Panthers	28	1995	Joined NFL
San Francisco 49ers	28	1995	Won 1994 SB
Dallas Cowboys	27	1996	Won 1995 SB
Houston Texans	21	2002	Joined NFL
Indianapolis Colts	16	2007	Won 2006 SB
Pittsburgh Steelers	14	2009	Won 2008 SB
New Orleans Saints	13	2010	Won 2009 SB
Green Bay Packers	12	2011	Won 2010 SB
New York Giants	11	2012	Won 2011 SB
Baltimore Ravens	10	2013	Won 2012 SB
Seattle Seahawks	9	2014	Won 2013 SB
Denver Broncos	7	2016	Won 2015 SB
Philadelphia Eagles	5	2018	Won 2017 SB
New England Patriots	4	2019	Won 2018 SB
Tampa Bay Buccaneers	2	2021	Won 2020 SB
Los Angeles Rams	1	2022	Won 2021 SB

17 teams have gone longer than the Cowboys without a title and 25 of the 32 teams have gone 10 years or more without a title. So it begs the question. How long does a coach get to win a title before he should be booted? A coach that has a team in the playoffs consistently doesnt forget how to coach. How many years has the great Sean Peyton been coaching? yet he only has one title.

So how many years should Mike get before he is fired? or any coach for that matter?

As long as he keeps winning, that’s how long

 

[CowboyRoy]

I personally dont like change for change sake. Now that Reid has wona couple of titles since he has his wonderboy, everyone declares him a master... yet he was ran out of philly.

So here is a list of the drought for each team:

Team	Years	Start Year	Drought Start
Arizona Cardinals	75	1948	Won 1947 NFLC
Detroit Lions	65	1958	Won 1957 NFLC
Minnesota Vikings	62	1961	Joined NFL
Cleveland Browns	58	1965	Won 1964 NFLC
Los Angeles Chargers	57	1966	Joined NFL
Buffalo Bills	57	1966	Joined NFL
Tennessee Titans	57	1966	Joined NFL
Atlanta Falcons	57	1966	Joined NFL
Cincinnati Bengals	55	1968	Joined NFL
New York Jets	54	1969	Won 1968 SB
Miami Dolphins	49	1974	Won 1973 SB
Las Vegas Raiders	39	1984	Won 1983 SB
Chicago Bears	37	1986	Won 1985 SB
Washington Commanders	31	1992	Won 1991 SB
Jacksonville Jaguars	28	1995	Joined NFL
Carolina Panthers	28	1995	Joined NFL
San Francisco 49ers	28	1995	Won 1994 SB
Dallas Cowboys	27	1996	Won 1995 SB
Houston Texans	21	2002	Joined NFL
Indianapolis Colts	16	2007	Won 2006 SB
Pittsburgh Steelers	14	2009	Won 2008 SB
New Orleans Saints	13	2010	Won 2009 SB
Green Bay Packers	12	2011	Won 2010 SB
New York Giants	11	2012	Won 2011 SB
Baltimore Ravens	10	2013	Won 2012 SB
Seattle Seahawks	9	2014	Won 2013 SB
Denver Broncos	7	2016	Won 2015 SB
Philadelphia Eagles	5	2018	Won 2017 SB
New England Patriots	4	2019	Won 2018 SB
Tampa Bay Buccaneers	2	2021	Won 2020 SB
Los Angeles Rams	1	2022	Won 2021 SB

17 teams have gone longer than the Cowboys without a title and 25 of the 32 teams have gone 10 years or more without a title. So it begs the question. How long does a coach get to win a title before he should be booted? A coach that has a team in the playoffs consistently doesnt forget how to coach. How many years has the great Sean Peyton been coaching? yet he only has one title.

So how many years should Mike get before he is fired? or any coach for that matter?

How long does Jerry have? He is the fool that ignored our biggest problem area in the offseason which was the Oline. Its week 1 and already Tyler is out and Tyron is limping around.

 

[Reid1boys]

Be careful now, I'm one of those old guys!
That was the good old days, when you built a great team it lasted for more than 1 or 2 seasons! You got used to seeing your favorite players and they stuck around for a few years.
I hate the salary cap and that parity garbage but you were right, the cap years were a totally different world unfortunately.

I watched Dallas vs Denver in sb XII.

 

[plasticman]

Okay, let's suppose the Cowboys lose the division round again.

Are you going to fire the HC that took your team to three consecutive years in the playoffs for the first time in 27 seasons? Why would you give the job to Quinn? As the DC, how was he not part of the problem?

I would say that, as long as the Cowboys make the playoffs, you keep going with McCarthy. However, if he dips to single digit wins with no playoffs, of course, he is gone.