CFZ How wide of a gap is there between the Cowboys from the 49ers/Eagles

KingCorcoran

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He does it every year..lol
No, he doesn’t. Give him credit for fielding a competitive team. Now the bills have to be paid. All GMs are a lot less clever with little cap space, no excess draft capital, and some significant 2nd contracts for existing players on the horizon. He drafted Hurts in the 2nd round. Roseman is more lucky than smart.
 

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Would adding a Deion Jones, LB, be upgrading the current linebacker group?



Jones and Quinn were together for five years, so odds are he understands what the defensive coordinator expects from his linebackers. At the end of the day, Jones has been a productive player throughout his career and the Cowboys could use an established presence at linebacker behind Leighton Vander Esch.

Between Damone Clark, DeMarvion Overshown and Jabril Cox, there's little experience in the linebacker room aside from Vander Esch. Not to mention injuries have limited Vander Esch to two full seasons in five years.

Imagine the sheer panic that would ensue if Vander Esch went down with another injury. Having Jones as insurance would help lessen the blow in that scenario. And if Vander Esch remains upright, Jones' presence would help Dallas ease in Overshown and put less on Clark's plate as a second-year player. There aren't many positions Dallas should look to upgrade as we get closer to training camp. Linebacker is undoubtedly one of them and Jones checks a number of boxes as a former standout under Quinn.

https://thelandryhat.com/posts/bleacher-report-cowboys-sign-deion-jones-dan-quinn-free-agency
 

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Joseph and Suh are gone. You guys still have the corpse of Cox I guess.

Your starting LB and S are gone too. Have fun with that.
Joseph and Cox were end of the year short term signings. Eagles as an organization but zero value in LBers.
Now one thing I do agree with is Cox isn't who he used to be.
But this is still a top D and probably still better than the Cowboys D.
 

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Joseph and Cox were end of the year short term signings. Eagles as an organization but zero value in LBers.
Now one thing I do agree with is Cox isn't who he used to be.
But this is still a top D and probably still better than the Cowboys D.
I’m sure you meant “Joseph and Suh”, and they have a very good D, probably not as good as the Cowboys’. Philly apparently does not spend heavy on running backs and linebackers. The wisdom of that philosophy will be tested in ten weeks. They tried to pry Baker out of AZ, but literally do not have the cap space to add him, and signed a journeyman safety instead. I’d be more interested in what the Cowboys do than what the Eagles are doing from here on out.
 

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Joseph and Cox were end of the year short term signings. Eagles as an organization but zero value in LBers.
Now one thing I do agree with is Cox isn't who he used to be.
But this is still a top D and probably still better than the Cowboys D.
And they were still better than their replacements. Your assertion does nothing to counter that. That was your depth it is now gone.

You are basically hoping that your GM is willing to take on salary to cover your deficiencies at S and LB and depth across the board.
 

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And they were still better than their replacements. Your assertion does nothing to counter that. That was your depth it is now gone.

You are basically hoping that your GM is willing to take on salary to cover your deficiencies at S and LB and depth across the board.
Yeah, as an organization they believe in spending heavily on OLine, DLine and CB but LBer, S, RB are dime a dozen players in their perspective. Depth is not signing guys to fill in at the end of year for injured players bro.
 

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No, he doesn’t. Give him credit for fielding a competitive team. Now the bills have to be paid. All GMs are a lot less clever with little cap space, no excess draft capital, and some significant 2nd contracts for existing players on the horizon. He drafted Hurts in the 2nd round. Roseman is more lucky than smart.
:facepalm: :facepalm: :facepalm: :facepalm: Never underestimate the best GM in the game.
 

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"Don't say as wide as your mother"
"Don't say as wide as your mother"
"Don't say as wide as your mother"

"As wide as your son?"
 

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Kurt Daniels: Last season, the Cowboys started 14 of their 19 games, counting the playoffs, with three linebackers on the field. The thing is, only three defensive linemen also started in those affairs, meaning Micah Parsons was lining up to attack the quarterback. The other four games saw four defensive linemen start but just two linebackers, Parsons and Leighton Vander Esch. In other words, the Dallas defense truly featured only two starters at linebacker all year. And expect more of the same in 2023 with Vander Esch and likely Damone Clark getting the nod when Parsons is taking a position up front.

Nick Eatman: This is a good question because it's not easy to answer. And the reason why is because of all this position flex. Your best linebacker is actually more of an edge-rusher. Your top safeties – Wilson and Kearse – can play linebacker in the nickel. And then there's the versatile rookie DeMarvion Overshown. I think Dan Quinn will work his magic with this position but at the end of the day, I say a lot of packages involving both LVE and Damone Clark, with hybrid roles that include Overshown, Jabril Cox and of course, Parsons, when he's not attacking the quarterback off the edge.

Kyle Youmans: There is a significant amount of excitement at linebacker, but with it comes raised expectations around the young talent at the position. With quite a bit of versatility, players will rotate from position to position, but everything starts with Leighton Vander Esch. He'll most likely start on the weak side, a position he mainly handled during the final three games of the 2023 season. Most of his year was played at the middle linebacker before Damone Clark rotated in and was more comfortable in the middle. Following them, it'll be a rotation of Jabril Cox and rookie DeMarvion Overshown, both flexible enough to play multiple positions.

https://www.dallascowboys.com/news/17-how-starting-lineup-shakes-out-at-lb
 

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Take away homer thoughts, both the 49ers/Eagles last yr were clearly better teams then the Cowboys:

-Both teams were absolutely loaded personnel wise. Eagles lost arguably their best defensive player in Hargrave, who signed with the 49ers. Lost their coordinators on both sides of the football and now will be counting on several young prospects to make an impact. Eagles are quite like the Cowboy team, but still have better players inside the trenches on both side of the football. Eagles might see a little step back due to a lot unproven talent.

-The 49ers, in my opinion are a different animal, health remains a concern, along with their QB position. Will teams figure out Purdy? The same can be said about Hurts. Usually, when given an off-season, defensive coordinators will find weaknesses to exploit. Will they find away to overcome the so called 2nd yr jinx? How do teams successfully attack the 49er defense?

-Cowboys definitely can play with both teams, but they will need to play more clean and take advantage of their opponents mistakes. Still believe their is a gap. but not as wide as previous seasons.
The Cowboys are ahead of those teams but it is not a wide margin...
 
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