How will Dak adapt to a new offensive scheme?

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Over the CAP shows Brandin Cooks with $2 million in prorated bonus in 2025 and another $2 million in 2026, but the CAP hit shows $4 million in 2025. He would be off the books after this season.

DLaw has 1 voidable year (2025) and $7.445 million in prorated bonus. He too will be off the books in 2026 if he is not resigned to a new deal.

Zack Martin has 4 voidable years on his contracts and a total of $26.45 million over the 4 years, $10.65 million of it in 2025, according to Over-the-CAP and another $17 million in 2026. I am assuming the deal allows Dallas to take the CAP hit over two years. So unless Dallas chooses to take the full CAP hit in 2025, Martin will be $10 million in CAP money this year, and another $17 million next year. They did this with Martin last year when he complained about his contract.

I really do not like pushing money into voidable years and Dallas is not the worst offender for this. The Eagles have $418 million in CAP money in voidable contract years right now, almost all of it stemming from option bonuses to be paid out to 16 players.

Also, the Cowboys have to take an $8 million CAP hit for Michael Gallup who was a June 1 cut last year. He will be off the books in 2026 as well.

CeeDee has $23.2 million allocated in voidable years on his deal. That would be in 2029.

Donovan Wilson has $1.65 million in 2026, a voidable year in his contract.

The Cowboys have really not used this option in many of their contracts so far. The Eagles built it in upfront.

I hope the Cowboys stay away from this in the future. I think it makes things messy, but I understand why teams do it.
It's kind of like we're stuck, make these long contracts, but later we need to have cap space to spend money on free agents, so what do you do???
 

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Being in the same system for years, then Mike comes in and adds his small wrinkles to the offense. With a new play caller coming in, how will Dak adapt? Will having someone he's familiar with benefit him and this team. The offense is boring, and predictable, it needs a complete overhaul.

Dak likes to be in the shotgun formation often, will this continue? I saw the Rams QB and Hurts in the playoffs have success under center, could we get Dak back under center and get this play action game strong again?? We shall see (getting a running game helps) please give your thoughts
Mike McCarthy's scheme wasn't the same as Jason Garrett's scheme, nor the same as Kellen Moore's scheme (Garrett). Like any coach, he kept some things that the QB and others were comfortable with and that worked, but incorporated his own stuff.

We definitely need someone who will incorporate running schemes that work for our OL.
 

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No, it’s because you can get rid of the ball faster. Move the safeties up. It’s called a football scheme, strategy It’s hard to stop even if they know it’s coming, but you need a good run game to pull it off . But for the benefit of the doubt. They changed the scheme and they went deep and Prescott through dimes. And we were scoring 30+ points a game. We haven’t had a complete team on both sides of the ball for a while now. This season was a disaster obviously. And I think just like Romo this was Prescott’s last attempt, and I don’t know who’s going to replace him.
How's it feel to have a broken down car that your still making payments on. Not to mention you payed for a Mercedes and got an AMC Pacer.
 

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Mike McCarthy's scheme wasn't the same as Jason Garrett's scheme, nor the same as Kellen Moore's scheme (Garrett). Like any coach, he kept some things that the QB and others were comfortable with and that worked, but incorporated his own stuff.

We definitely need someone who will incorporate running schemes that work for our OL.
Agree it just seemed that we stayed more with the stuff that Dak was used to with Kellen
 

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Hard to say.

Dak no longer has the ability to use his legs like when he came into the league. But also tell me how the WR room looks? Do they lose Turpin and cooks?
Cooks is not worth another payday. He was the best #2 guy we had because no one else on the team could get separation, but even he wasn't a dependable #2 and accomplished very little when Lamb was out. Look at all the playoff teams; they all have multiple big time playmakers at wr or te or rb. We have nothing but Lamb. Many teams have two #1's or a 1a and 1b. Some even have a 3rd slot guy who routinely beats man coverage for first downs. It's way too much pressure on Dak and Lamb not having anyone else to draw attention.

I always argue that Dak is an above average NFL QB, but he shouldn't be mentioned in the same breath as Mahomes or Burrow, yet I've seen Burrow struggle mightily one year behind a bad OL and every year when Higgins has been injured for a few games; he has perhaps the best wr in the league in Chase, but that offense still stalls when Higgins isn't there because teams can bracket Chase, but Higgins makes them pay for single coverage on him. Meanwhile I've seen Tolbert struggle to separate from a safety. Mahomes has struggled and failed to make the Pro Bowl roster this year, despite everyone knowing he is the absolute best and still finds ways to win, but he at least had 2 speedsters in Worthy and Brown and the best TE in the business; yet, KC knew it wasn't enough and added Hopkins!

The Cowboys offensive roster is absolute garbage, and while Dak is not an elite QB, he is a franchise QB. He could never do what some of the elite QBs do, but if you don't think he'd be in the playoffs every year with KC or Baltimore this season, you really are a hater. (the "you" is a generalization and not directed at the OP). Give Dak at least 1 quality receiver to go with Lamb, a decent RB that teams have to respect, and hopefully a rebound year from Ferguson at TE, and I'm betting you see a competitive offense in 2025.

Jerry screwed everyone with the roster he ran out there this past season, McCarthy, Dak, Lamb, all the players and the fans, but most of all our back-up QB's. We won some games against poor teams with Rush, but imagine if we'd had a stretch of games against contenders; Rush had no chance against good defenses because Jerry gave him nothing to work with when your backup QBs should be carried by the team, not expected to carry everyone else.
 

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Being in the same system for years, then Mike comes in and adds his small wrinkles to the offense. With a new play caller coming in, how will Dak adapt? Will having someone he's familiar with benefit him and this team. The offense is boring, and predictable, it needs a complete overhaul.

Dak likes to be in the shotgun formation often, will this continue? I saw the Rams QB and Hurts in the playoffs have success under center, could we get Dak back under center and get this play action game strong again?? We shall see (getting a running game helps) please give your thoughts
I don’t think there will be a very dramatic change in the offensive scheme. But I really would like to see less shotgun. To me the best offense can run the ball and that’s how they open up the passing game. Play action makes the passing game easier. Just the threat of a run slows the backend of a secondary
 

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I don’t think there will be a very dramatic change in the offensive scheme. But I really would like to see less shotgun. To me the best offense can run the ball and that’s how they open up the passing game. Play action makes the passing game easier. Just the threat of a run slows the backend of a secondary
If that's the one thing they can change FINE!!!!!!!!!!!! Get out of the gun so much!!
 

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Cooks is not worth another payday. He was the best #2 guy we had because no one else on the team could get separation, but even he wasn't a dependable #2 and accomplished very little when Lamb was out. Look at all the playoff teams; they all have multiple big time playmakers at wr or te or rb. We have nothing but Lamb. Many teams have two #1's or a 1a and 1b. Some even have a 3rd slot guy who routinely beats man coverage for first downs. It's way too much pressure on Dak and Lamb not having anyone else to draw attention.

I always argue that Dak is an above average NFL QB, but he shouldn't be mentioned in the same breath as Mahomes or Burrow, yet I've seen Burrow struggle mightily one year behind a bad OL and every year when Higgins has been injured for a few games; he has perhaps the best wr in the league in Chase, but that offense still stalls when Higgins isn't there because teams can bracket Chase, but Higgins makes them pay for single coverage on him. Meanwhile I've seen Tolbert struggle to separate from a safety. Mahomes has struggled and failed to make the Pro Bowl roster this year, despite everyone knowing he is the absolute best and still finds ways to win, but he at least had 2 speedsters in Worthy and Brown and the best TE in the business; yet, KC knew it wasn't enough and added Hopkins!

The Cowboys offensive roster is absolute garbage, and while Dak is not an elite QB, he is a franchise QB. He could never do what some of the elite QBs do, but if you don't think he'd be in the playoffs every year with KC or Baltimore this season, you really are a hater. (the "you" is a generalization and not directed at the OP). Give Dak at least 1 quality receiver to go with Lamb, a decent RB that teams have to respect, and hopefully a rebound year from Ferguson at TE, and I'm betting you see a competitive offense in 2025.

Jerry screwed everyone with the roster he ran out there this past season, McCarthy, Dak, Lamb, all the players and the fans, but most of all our back-up QB's. We won some games against poor teams with Rush, but imagine if we'd had a stretch of games against contenders; Rush had no chance against good defenses because Jerry gave him nothing to work with when your backup QBs should be carried by the team, not expected to carry everyone else.
That's right what little help cooks and turp did bring will be gone. They better walk away from the draft with some offensive skill player help or it may be a really hard thing to watch.
 

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That's right what little help cooks and turp did bring will be gone. They better walk away from the draft with some offensive skill player help or it may be a really hard thing to watch.
You know what I was reminded of today? The 2007 collapse. I saw another hate Dak meme on Facebook because he’s the only #2 seed to lose in the wild card round. I was reminded that Tony Romo had the #1 seeded team and lost the first playoff game at home vs the lowest rated wild card team, the Giants.

In that game, not only did Romo’s defense hold Eli to 169 passing and Jacobs to 54 rushing, he also had the Barbarian rush for 129 yards and a TD, and he was throwing passes to TO, Terry Glenn, Patrick Crayton, and prime Jason Witten, yet he barely completed 50% of his passes and only put 17 points on the scoreboard. How? Yet fans love the false narrative that Romo didn’t have the talented teams Dak has had. I don’t blame either QB for the losses. It’s a team game, and sometimes playmakers have to help the QB.

Dallas has 1 playmaker…..period. 1 offensive player the defense must account for because he is the only threat to score on a big play. This roster is awful.
 

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He was happy not knowing that. He thought Dak picked up McCarthys brand new offense quickly. He was clueless. You ruined that for him.
McCarthy never installed his offense. In fact remember the hype about implementing the West Coast offense and then as the summer went on the narrative changed to well we're implementing the Texas Coast offense. Then come game day it's the same plays from the Garrett, Moore playbook.
 

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Is he running the same plays at Eags? I always thought he used Curls as Dak struggles hitting the moving horizontal route....especially with those moving Safeties.
That is exactly why he called curls and McCarthy did that too. Dak struggles in timing plays and it shows.
 

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I'm not here to take anything from what Dak has accomplished, but the MVP/All Pro argument has grown pretty old already IMO. Dak had an excellent 2023, and its was probably the best stretch of football in his career. That said though its such a what have you done for me lately league, and hanging onto awards isn't a good argument more than a year later. Jason Garrett won coach of the year, but no one thinks of him as a great HC. Derek Carr, Carson Wentz, and Carson Palmer have all received 1st place votes for MVP, but no one thinks of them as great QBs. We could spend all day running down the list of guys who have made all pro only to be irrelevant or out of the league a year or two later.
If that were true, people wouldn't bring up the negativity in his past.

I bring up positive things that he recently earned to show he doesn't "suck", then suddenly Im a "Dak fan". I ask for proof that he "sucks", Im a "Dak fan". I bring up the performance of the talent around him, Im called a "Dak fan"... see the pattern here?

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If that were true, people wouldn't bring up the negativity in his past.

I bring up positive things that he recently earned to show he doesn't "suck", then suddenly Im a "Dak fan". I ask for proof that he "sucks", Im a "Dak fan". I bring up the performance of the talent around him, Im called a "Dak fan"... see the pattern here?

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Being an individual, stick to your guns, it’s good
 
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